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  1. a*gal

    a*gal Junior Member

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    Hey everybuddy,
    Is anybody else going to be in Cleveland, at Case?
    I am <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> Soooo, if you are def. going to Case, stand up and be counted...okay, okay, just cyber-raise your hands and add your name to the list :D !
    And, does anyone know if they have a 2nd look?

    a*gal

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  3. meems

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    hi! i'm pretty sure i'll be at case...add me to the list! (i'm new to SDN and i haven't quite figured out how to add to the list :) ).

    by the way, i don't think they have an official second look, but i'm sure you could arrange it with the admissions office if you want to see the school again.
     
  4. HairlessHeart

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    Yes, I am a future classmate. :)
     
  5. leorl

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    will just miss me. I'm an undergrad at CWRU and there's no way in hell I'm staying! Congrats to all, you're gonna have a great time :)
     
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    ahhh.... I dunno, I'm still not sure... trying to decide right now between my state school and Case. Have you all seen the new rankings? Case really got battered for some reason, I don't understand why, dropping from 14 &gt; 22 and 17 &gt; 22 (primary/research). I was almost positive that I was going to Case, but now I'm wondering if its worth the extra $25K a year now, especially if I'm not gonna specialize...

    &lt;sigh&gt; rankings stink...
     
  7. paean

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    If I don't get off of the waiting list at my top choices (I think I have slim chances of that happening at this point), me too. I really liked Case, but then I liked most the places I interviewed a lot as well. I guess that I was just really excited that I could see the light at the end of the pre-med tunnel.

    So, does anyone have an idea about housing?
     
  8. Dylann FMD

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    There is a really good chance of me going to Case. I am trying desperately to figure out whether Case Western or Northwestern is best for me (Battle of the Westerns). May 1st is when Case announces the merit scholarships--I need to wait till then to give a definite answer.

    As for housing, if you are definitely going give the admissions office a call. One of the women in the office (not Ellen, the other main one) has a list going and will play roommate matchmaker if you so desire. They also have some website to go to. Basically June is when you need to get you apartment (or its the best time). Talk to the office, though, they have the best info. When I talked to them two weeks ago there were very few people on the roommate matching list. I think like 60 or 70 people a year get hooked up that way.
     
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    Well, a miracle has happened--I got one of the merit scholarships from Case! Still in utter shock. I am withdrawing my other acceptances/waitlists tomorrow. Also will be adding my name to the Case roommate list. Anyone else decided on Case lately?
     
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    Congratulations on getting a merit scholarship!! That is an amazing accomplishment! Go out and celebrate!
     
  11. Daryl wuss beast

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    I'll be goin' to Case as a dental student. I'm jumpin in here hopin' to find me a roomie. I'll be apartment shopping in late May - prob mostly around the Shaker Square area. I should be on the list already if they put dental students on their too, I don't know. Do they?

    Cleveland Rocks!
     
  12. paean

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    Dylann, congratulations! I just withdrew from OHU (and I'm Californian, who would have guessed that I would be picking between two schools in Ohio), so I'll see you in the fall.

    Okay, slightly dumb question: When is orientation/when do we start? I have had a lot less luck finding what I wanted previously on their website, so I haven't even tried this one.

    Daryl, there is an informal roomate match list kept by the secretary of admissions for the med school. You could try calling the office and seeing if she would put your contact info on it. If you are looking in May because you start at the beginning of the summer, that is a little earlier than the med school starts (despite my not knowing when, I do know that the earliest school I applied to was in July, and that I think was not Case). Good luck.
     
  13. meems

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    congratulations dylann on your scholarship! and it's great to hear that paean chose case. it's nice to "meet" future classmates!

    about housing, marlene is the lady who plays roommate matchmaker for the incoming students each year. she's super nice and she helped me out a lot in looking for housing.

    see you at case in the fall!
     
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    paean, i also have the same question about case's start date. if anyone finds out when orientation starts, please post. thanks! :)
     
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    paean, i also have the same question about case's start date. if anyone finds out when orientation starts, please post. thanks! :)
     
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    I don't have the exact date, but Case usually starts the first week in August. The financial aid award thing said it starts Aug. 5th, if that means anything (not sure if it does). Hope the approximation helps. And thanks for the congrats
     
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    Thanks for the info Dylann.

    Meems, does that mean you are already looking for housing? Is the market that competetive? I assumed that since rent is low (compared to the Bay Area, where I'm from) I could arrive a week before I needed to be there and find a decent place for an okay price. Is that not true?

    Sorry to be full of questions and no answers today...
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by paean:
    <strong>Thanks for the info Dylann.

    Meems, does that mean you are already looking for housing? Is the market that competetive? I assumed that since rent is low (compared to the Bay Area, where I'm from) I could arrive a week before I needed to be there and find a decent place for an okay price. Is that not true?

    Sorry to be full of questions and no answers today...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You probably can go the week before and find an ok place, but in my experience, good one bedrooms can go fast. I would at least call ahead at places you might be interested in.
     
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    Dylann, congrats! does that mean you're withdrawing from NUMS?
     
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    Moo:
    Thanks on the congrats. Pretty much, yeah, I will be withdrawing from NUMS. I am going to wait a week or so, hoping that fin aid comes to see what they would give me, but I KNOW it won't compare with this, so I am like 99.9% sure its Case. I am sending my other withdrawals tomorrow.
     
  22. meems

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Meems, does that mean you are already looking for housing? Is the market that competetive? I assumed that since rent is low (compared to the Bay Area, where I'm from) I could arrive a week before I needed to be there and find a decent place for an okay price. Is that not true?

    </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Paean, I agree with Hairless Heart. No need to worry, you will find a nice apartment no matter when you look. My family is in Cleveland, and they're just looking around a bit for me before I move there. There are tons of apartments in Cleveland Heights, which is right up the hill from the medical school. I think that's where most of the med students live. I would definitely recommend contacting Marlene in the admissions office. She can give you specifics on each apartment complex and maybe you can get a feel for what's available right before school starts.
     
  23. paean

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    Thanks guys. I am trying to stay on the West Coast as long as possible. Beautiful foggy Bay Area summer (note the sacasm, the weather is the best reason I can think of for moving, I want seasons and semi-predictable temperatures). But I have been living with my boyfriend for the last four years, and he can't move until Jan/Feb 2003, so am happy to believe that I don't have to move in June.
     
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    Anyone else going to Case? (bump...)
     
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    You want an apartment for when? August? Um, dude...you need to start looking for apartments NOW. They're going up quickly. You shouldn't have a problem, but my sis and I are graduating from CWRU this may but sticking around over the summer through this fall, and we're having difficulty finding a suitable place that's on the cheaper end. Come August, it's going to be really hard when all students are trying to move in.
     
  26. paean

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    leorl, thanks for the advice.

    Since you have been there for a while, can you give us new-comers a more clear idea about what qualifies as a good apartment, and when is the date that they are all snatched up. I know that near my school, If you started looking 7 weeks before school started, you were fine, but if you wait until only 4 weeks, you will be stuck with the dregs. Is there a window like that around CWRU? Or is it just generally difficult to find inexpensive decent places.

    One more question, what do you mean by "a suitable place that's on the cheaper end?" How much $$ is the cheaper end? Oops, I guess that was two questions.

    Thanks :)
     
  27. HairlessHeart

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by leorl:
    <strong>You want an apartment for when? August? Um, dude...you need to start looking for apartments NOW. They're going up quickly. You shouldn't have a problem, but my sis and I are graduating from CWRU this may but sticking around over the summer through this fall, and we're having difficulty finding a suitable place that's on the cheaper end. Come August, it's going to be really hard when all students are trying to move in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well...maybe my experience was an anomaly, but my current roomate and I didn't have quite the same difficulty. However, our critereon was more "non-ghetto" rather than "on the cheaper end," so it might depend on what you're looking for. If it helps anyone here, we put a deposit down in early July last summer.

    But leorl is right: the nicest, cheapest places go fast (isn't that true everywhere?). I'm sorry I wasn't more clear in my previous post (final exam Hell). Since you're moving to a new area paean, you'd be best off making inquiries early (like now or in early june). The best places will often have waiting lists and/or not know of their vacancies until the month before. The month before (early July) is when places really get sopped up. If you wait until the week before, I still think you might be able to find an ok place (not every place stays at 100% occupancy), but it might be one hell of a commute. Do the smart (safe) thing: start early.
     
  28. meems

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You want an apartment for when? August? Um, dude...you need to start looking for apartments NOW. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">leorl -

    i'm glad you told us about your difficulty in finding an apartment. i was under the impression that there were many apartments in the area (cleveland heights, shaker heights, coventry area) and that we would be able to find at least something decent in the summer. maybe we all SHOULD start looking now. please let us know if you have anymore hints!
     
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    Sorry for the delay, my finals weeks have been really hectic, but I just turned in my thesis after having stayed up for 48 hours and ate about maybe 500 calories total today :) .

    I don't know where you're coming from so I don't know what you consider expensive, but my sis and our situation was a little different cuz we were looking for only a 6 month lease and had absolutely no furniture.

    Okay, hmm...let's see. there usually are several apartments that are around Little Italy and behind UH hospitals (this is the Fairview / Murray Hill Rd area). One bedroom apartments around there cost about $550-$600 for an unfurnished apartment, included: water and heat (sometimes hot water tank). Usually you have to pay phone, gas, electricity. No A/C or DSL, some have a cable jack, some don't. Not the greatest, but if you're staying for awhile and are willing to fix it up, you could make it homey. Are a bit dirty, but liveable. Others on Euclid Heights or Waldorf towers are also rather expensive like $700-$800 per month.

    The ones in a tower complex that have DSL and are more luxurious cost around $700-800 per month, but some if these (Fairhill towers) are a dive. Sometimes there are sublets in houses (or like 4-5 students share a house) that are awesome and go for around $300 per room, I'm thinking of the ones on South Overlook and near Cedar road. Good, clean secure area as well.

    You could also look around Coventry, but those are ..eh...

    Pretty much if you're looking for something good near campus, stick to south campus. If you start exploring off north campus, it gets shady/ghetto. Also, the med school is closer to south side.

    I'd recommend starting to look around now, or late June so that gives you like 4-5 weeks before the med school starts, cuz once August hits, these places will be gone.
     
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    If I don't get accepted into Australia I'll be moving out of the house we found in August. However, that's rather unlikely, so if that should happen I'll let you know. But it's a good duplex, it'd be sharing a house with CWRU grads and I think one CWRU senior, and its a pretty spacious bedroom. Has a yard and large garage. Nice, clean, safe area. all basic utilities paid, we just pay for DLS, phone, electricity, cable - $300 per month
     
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    bump. I want the interested parties to see this
     
  32. pcl

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by leorl:
    <strong>Okay, hmm...let's see. there usually are several apartments that are around Little Italy and behind UH hospitals (this is the Fairview / Murray Hill Rd area). One bedroom apartments around there cost about $550-$600 for an unfurnished apartment, included: water and heat (sometimes hot water tank). Usually you have to pay phone, gas, electricity. No A/C or DSL, some have a cable jack, some don't. Not the greatest, but if you're staying for awhile and are willing to fix it up, you could make it homey. Are a bit dirty, but liveable. Others on Euclid Heights or Waldorf towers are also rather expensive like $700-$800 per month.

    The ones in a tower complex that have DSL and are more luxurious cost around $700-800 per month, but some if these (Fairhill towers) are a dive. Sometimes there are sublets in houses (or like 4-5 students share a house) that are awesome and go for around $300 per room, I'm thinking of the ones on South Overlook and near Cedar road. Good, clean secure area as well.

    You could also look around Coventry, but those are ..eh...

    I'd recommend starting to look around now, or late June so that gives you like 4-5 weeks before the med school starts, cuz once August hits, these places will be gone.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't find this to be the case at all. YOu can find apts in little italy for less that that, but they tend to be on the sketchy side, at least the ones I have seen.

    Personally, I live in a two BR, wood floors, high ceilings, fireplace, DW/S/R, allows pets (i have a dog), heat, water and parking included, ON coventry, brand new kitchen and bath and it is only 750. I found it June 22 on my one day apartment hunting trip. I did look at a lot of yucky apartments, but I didn't think it was bad at all compared to where I'm from. The housing market isn't at all as bad as my undergrad where you started to look in november for the following august... You should be fine looking in June. I have a friend who found his place after school started and it is fine.

    Personally, I wouldn't want to live in the Waldorf Towers "med school dorm" Too expensive for the generic accomodations... Most of the apartments in CH are reasonable, and have a lot of character.

    Check with the Cleveland Heights relocation service also. Marlene can hook you up with a roomate, but she has a more limited selection of apartments than the relocation service does. They will give you a list of landlords who meet your criteria and have availability.

    I think next year we start on the 5th... As first years, they will ease you into the curriculum with a long orientation, and an easy first block (FMDM).

    Good Luck guys! Looking forward to seeing you next year!

    PCL
     
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    Thank you so much to everyone who responded. I feel like I've got a much better idea of what I'm getting into. I'm going to take a little bit of a chance, and not come until July.

    I'm trying to figure out if I want to find a one bedroom and live alone until my boyfriend joins me in January, or look for a sublet or short lease for the fall only, and find a bigger place with him when he arrives. I prefer roommates, and while prices are a lot cheaper than California, it still makes sense to split rent. But finding a place for a semester seems a lot harder. Hopefully I'll make up my mind before I arrive.
     
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    Thanks leorl and pcl! I think I'm going to wait a little while before I start looking seriously for housing. I'll probably start in early-mid June.

    Paean, good luck with your housing decision. Before you know it our first semester will be done and your boyfriend will be able to join you in Cleveland. I'm sure it will work out.

    Anyone else out there headed for Case?
     
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    we should all meet :) I won't be in the med school, but I'll be working at the med school (dept of physiology and biophysics) so that counts eh? : )
     
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    anyone else going to Case?
     
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    Hello all. Be sure to add me to the list of fellow classmates at CWRU med school this coming fall. I have started doing a little hunting for housing, so if you have any questions, or are interested in having roommates, let me know.
     
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    JBozz, great to "meet" you. If you are willing to post how the house/apt hunt is going, I know that I would love to read about your experiences, and I expect others would as well.

    As to roommates, have you talked with Marlene (I believe that was the name someone else posted, I haven't called yet) in admissions? She keeps an informal list of new students looking for roommates and such, and might be able to put you in touch with others looking right now. I'm delaying everything until June, I need to finish up my loose ends in California before thinking about moving.
     
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    Hooray! :cool: Someone rescued this thread from the depths of SDN forum purgatory.

    So a*gal, meems, Chunk-ee, paean, JBozz--are (any of) you guys definitely going to Case? If so, add yourself to the future classmates thread. Me and hairless heart are getting lonely on there!

    Anyways, I put my name on the roommate list with Marlene yesterday. I guess its still kinda in its infancy. She asks a few questions about the type of apartment you are looking for (preferred area, options, locale in reference to school, bus-line, shopping, etc), so it might be good to investigate some of these things before giving her a call (at 216-368-3450, since I always am searching for the #). The Case website is a great primer for housing in the area (and thats really about the only good thing the website has, in my opinion). The URL is <a href="http://housing.cwru.edu/offcampus/list/default.asp" target="_blank">http://housing.cwru.edu/offcampus/list/default.asp</a>

    I forgot to ask the exact starting day when I talked to her, but I guess Case offers a special prep session starting in Mid-July, but for those of us starting at the regular start date August 1st is fine for the start of the lease, so it has to be shortly after that. The prep sessions are geared towards non-traditionals and/or non-science majors (i.e. not a bio major like me who graduated a week and a half ago).

    If you are going, be sure to add yourself to the roommate list! And think of something original about yourself before talking to Marlene. Its kinda like a med school roommate personal ad (Marlene did tell me how well I would get along with a girl who had called earlier in the day, which I thought was funny <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> ) I couldn't think of anything original so my "personal ad" sounds kinda stiff and unoriginal (easy-going guy, new to the area, etc). PM if you guys have any questions. Can you believe we will be there in two months!
     
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    Bump again--anybody???
     
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    Just curious, why did you people choose Case? What do you think about the price?
     
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    Well, the price for me is a little different since I got a pretty nice scholarship from them. In actuality, though, without the scholarship their financial aid was still much (and by much I mean MUCH) better than Northwestern, which was the other school I was tossing around. To be honest, Case wasn't my school of choice at the beginning of this process, but right now there is no place I would rather go. I love the way they teach, the opportunities they offer, the location, the faculty, staff, students, etc. I really am excited to go there. Without the scholarship, I probably would have ended up going to my state school for financial reasons, and would have regretted it the rest of my life, probably.
     
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    wow, pretty strong sentiments Dylann!

    Ok, some questions...
    When cwru says you have free time in the afternoons, do they mean free?! Cuz then when would we do our meetings with the obstetrics/geriatrics patients? When they say you have time in the afternoon to do research, do they mean md/phd or the research i or you would be concerned with to get published? Is this the same free time I would use if i chose to get MS Anatomy?

    Thanks!
     
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    Resident--

    Yeah, the "free afternoons" is a little deceiving. At Case, there are a certain amount of "electives" you have to take each year. These electives come in many forms. If you choose to do a joint degree, like the masters in anatomy, most if not all of your electives would be satisfied through the extra degree. MD/PhDers (and many other med students) do research for part of the electives (I think it doesn't suffice for all of them, for some reason). The other electives are usually just seminar topics, if I am remembering correctly. I know some of the electives are on topics like alternative medicine or public health policy or certain specialties. This electives run from 2-4 or 4-6 pm during the week. When I talked to someone who goes there, they told me these electives really don't take up much time, like one or two afternoons a week. If you so choose, the rest of the time is yours. Or you are in the lab for the anatomy masters.
     
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    I thought that the loan unit (25K Stafford) was pretty high, considering after you take out the loan unit amount, the rest of your need is met by a mix of ~45% grants and ~55% school loans. If your EFC is close to zero, like me, it meant taking out &gt;38K in loans every year. But as Dylann pointed out, they have some very generous scholarships (15K and 20K, most irrespective of need). And although the tuition is on the high side, it won't go up 5% every year like it does at many schools. We'll be paying 35K all four years. And Cleveland is cheap, so you could buy a house for less than renting with as little as 3K down.
     
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    paean,
    That is the only hurdle between me and CWRU :(. Im waiting for their finaid package and making my decision. Luckily im going to live with my parents, but still will have to take out around 40 K in loans if they arent good with grants.
    Sigh <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
     
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    Where else are you considering?
     
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    Congrats to all who were accepted at Case and have made the decision to go! I'm 10 days away from being a 4th year student and have had a great experience at Case. If anybody has any questions or is on the fence, please feel free to post or send me a PM.

    Good luck!
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by paean:
    <strong>Where else are you considering?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">osu
     
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    As far as financial aid, I thought they were generous in estimating the expected family contribution. Case's number was one-fifth of what Northwestern estimated for me (yes, you read that correctly, NUMS was 5 times more than Case). Though they may not give out a lot of grants, but they have a lower standard to start getting them, I guess. Also, the Case loans are pretty nice--interest free until after residency. I know at some other schools (Wash U comes to mind) the school loans charge interest immediately, something that may seem hidden but can mean a lot of $ down the road. One question for Snoopy--is the budget that Case sets forth reasonable? I found it a bit conservative compared to other med schools I have seen. I know Cleveland is not too expensive, but I thought I still felt a few things were unrealistic (like car/transportation estimates).

    Oh yes, and Resident, I forgot to mention before that attending to our pregnant/elderly patient does occur in those "free afternoons" we get.
     
  51. paean

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    Hey Dylann,

    Did you find housing yet?

    I actually had the opposite experience initially with Case's EFC. I had two other FAOs say it was 0, but Case said it was &gt;8K. I called to ask why the difference, and they revised it to 0, because my family has some unusual medical expenses. But if I hadn't questioned it, they probably would have never noticed. So if your EFC is higher than you think is possibly reasonable at one school, you might try calling and inquiring why. Of ten you can appeal, if they make incorrect assumptions about assets or unavoidable expenses.
     
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    J Bozz too, find housing yet?
     

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