Good IM chicago programs

Discussion in 'Internal Medicine and IM Subspecialties' started by rohsik, Oct 14, 2002.

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  1. rohsik

    rohsik Member 7+ Year Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Apart from the U.chicago, what are other good IM programs in chicago..

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  3. niwaaaa

    niwaaaa Junior Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    heard great things about Loyola's program
  4. Pinky

    Pinky and the Brain 10+ Year Member

    Aug 12, 2001
    Chicago, IL
    Actually, have heard not so great things about Loyola's program. kind of malignant i hear. also if you get a chance, take a look at where the residents are coming from. there are better programs in chicago. University of Chicago is considered the top program in Chicago. After that, UIC and Northwestern come next depending on who you talk to. The fellowships are probably more impressive for the NU grads, but the autonomy and the training at UIC is great.

    Rush is also a pretty good program.
  5. abu barney

    abu barney resident revolutionary 10+ Year Member

    Jul 8, 2001
    word on the chicago streets is...

    1) U of Chicago
    2) Northwestern
    3) Rush
    4) UIC
    5) Loyola
  6. unregistered

    unregistered Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Aug 8, 2002
    Loyola's program is horrible. Malignancy and condescension are the mainstay. The attendings are all homegrown and inbred, and run the program like a fraternity. Resident conflicts are handled with favoritism and fascism rather than justice. Why lower yourself to Loyola when U of C, UIC, and Northwestern have better names, better training, and are in better locations?

    However... if you are a DO graduate then I say go for Loyola, because the other programs don't really consider DOs whereas Loyola welcomes them with open arms.
  7. MOZ D.O.

    MOZ D.O. Member 7+ Year Member

    Apr 28, 2003
    what about illinois masonic, lutheran general or st. james? any thoughts?
  8. Ligament

    Ligament Interventional Pain Management Lifetime Donor SDN Advisor 10+ Year Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    Is this true in regards to DOs and the Chicago IM programs discriminating against them?

    Can anybody substantiate?
  9. apma77

    apma77 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    loyola is a hellhole ..keep away from there!
  10. Renovar

    Renovar Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Jan 29, 2002
    oh boy, i better look twice before some of these chicago programs then... seems like other than chicago and maybe NW, the other programs are questionable....
  11. shakzula

    shakzula New Member

    May 28, 2003
    I really think this forum is giving an inaccurate representation of Loyola. I am a resident there and I love it. It is not the easiest program in chicago but i don't find it malignant and the program director is great. I think the prepartation one receives here is second to none in Chicago.

    What are the sources for these people calling loyola a "hell hole". I looked at some of the other chicago programs when I was applying and found I didnt like places like Rush (all private attendings) and UIC as much, but still consider them great programs. U of C and northwestern are obviously more highly regarded and could lead to better fellowships but I had no problem matching into a competitive fellowship from loyola.

    People love to sling mud on this site. I often have to question how much real information they have about a particular program.
  12. jashanley

    jashanley Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Dec 9, 2002
    if you say you didn't like a program, for all of those out there applying next year, please give reasons.
    I'd personally be happy to answer questions about UIC. I think it is a great program, with some minor faults that are being corrected every year. The autonomy is excellent and like all chicago programs the patient population is strong.
    I'd didn't like Rush on my interview trail. I am not a fan of programs with a large number of private attendings. I personally didn't want to spend time on the phone tracking them down all the time (coming from a med school with privates). But it has an excellent reputation for medicine (some of the best attendings I worked with in Medical school trained at Rush), and the residents are happy from what I hear.
    I know little of Loyola, but from what I hear it is strong. U of C and NW seem to garner all of the attention in the city and I can't say whether it is deserved or not, but it is time they shared it a bit.

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