What are some good jobs for premeds. A job that can be balanced w/ school and studies.
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I recommend scribing. Paid, excellent clinical experience, and flexible hours.
What are some good jobs for premeds. A job that can be balanced w/ school and studies.
Would someone be able to work 10 hours a week as a scribe or would that be considered too little?
Any job that will work with your schedule.
People get caught up in it's not medical enough. A job is supposed to show that you can balance school and work. Once you hit rotations, you'll spend 40+ hours in the wards and then be expected to go home and study. A job at least to some degree indicates you can make the grades without having 24/7 to study.
I did McDonalds for 2 years. Interviewers honestly seemed impressed with it. I heard McDonalds to med school several times. No one ever said "Why don't you have any health care work experience?! Don't you like medicine?!"
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head... When I was in undergrad, I worked as a pizza delivery driver. I worked once or twice a week at most. The shift was typically 4-6 hours, and I walked away with $60+ in cash a night. This definitely left me enough time to either study or spend the rest of the evening hanging out with friends, which is what people our age are supposed to be doing (just not those on SDN, haha).
The pizza delivery, as stupid as it sounds, was actually a wonderful talking point at one of my interviews for a full-time job which I worked before doing a post-bacc. As jm192 said, working at McDonald's gave the application a far more unique perspective than yet another pre-med that worked as an EMT, scribe, CNA, phlebotomist, or other similar entry-level position.
As jm192 also mentioned, "People get caught up in it's not medical enough." Once again, this is a huge point. What are you doing as a pre-med? Do you want to become a physician one day, or are you working to become a career EMT, scribe, CNA, phlebotomist, or other similar entry-level position. Most pre-meds do not aspire to do these jobs for the rest of their lives. They will probably quit the moment they are accepted. So what's the point of investing so much time, often at the expense of grades or your social life to learn a skill-set that will be completely irrelevant toward doing what a physician does on a daily basis. If four hours a week of clinical volunteering is enough to get the non-SDN applicant a ticket to medical school, then this is definitely saying something about how much medical schools value the skills that pre-meds learn on these jobs.
Now a counter argument often presented is that as an entry-level clinical worker, you'll have the opportunity to have so many meaningful patient-worker interactions. Okay, great. That's a good thing, but don't forget that as a physician, you will have THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO HAVE THESE INTERACTIONS! There is a time and place for everything. Just because you might have meaningful things take place as such a worker does not mean you are obligated to do that job. As a college student, we should be exploring the world and having fun. Not attempting to juggle things by working a time-intensive entry-level clinical job or doing as many volunteer gigs as a retired stay-at-home mom. There's a time and place for everything, and maybe college just isn't the right time for these things.
Being a scribe is not completely irrelevant to what a physician does on a daily basis. You're doing part of the physicians job for them.
I think you missed the point he was making. Any job shows that you can handle the balance between work and school. It doesn't need to be medically related. That can be a plus, but it is not necessary at all.
I think you missed the point he was making. Any job shows that you can handle the balance between work and school. It doesn't need to be medically related. That can be a plus, but it is not necessary at all.
I understand his point, but enforcing his point with false claims isn't helpful to the OP or others that are considering jobs to do. Yes, it's true that you don't NEED clinical employment, but saying that a scribe is the same as a med tech/CNA/phlebotomist in terms of learning about what a physician does is inaccurate. Plus, being a scribe isn't an entry level job into become a professional scribe. Its a job that's shaped for people planning to go into nursing/PA/Med school. There is not expectation that you're becoming a scribe because your endgoal is scribe. The expectation is that your becoming a scribe because you have a greater goal in mind. I think this philosophy gets them a much more dedicated workforce, but something is lost in the turnover each year.
your interviewer would much rather hear about a funny pizza delivery story. .
As opposed to say, a funny baby delivery story?
Any job is going to be what you make of it. You have to make something of it though.
There is no job out there that you will waltz into and, just by the simple virtue of possessing that job, gain valuable life experience.
Valuable life experience comes from synthesis of what that position was able to teach you, opportunity for interaction with those who can affect you positively, and open mindedness on the experiences you gain and their value in shaping who you are.
It may sound cliche, corny, whatever...but I think you would be well advised to find a position that interests you, no mater what it is, and then stay switched on while performing that job, and absorb everything you can.
As opposed to say, a funny baby delivery story?
Any job is going to be what you make of it. You have to make something of it though.
There is no job out there that you will waltz into and, just by the simple virtue of possessing that job, gain valuable life experience.
Valuable life experience comes from synthesis of what that position was able to teach you, opportunity for interaction with those who can affect you positively, and open mindedness on the experiences you gain and their value in shaping who you are.
It may sound cliche, corny, whatever...but I think you would be well advised to find a position that interests you, no mater what it is, and then stay switched on while performing that job, and absorb everything you can.
I know that. Did you read the rest of what I wrote?
This is so typical. I'm not saying that you don't need to get a medical job. I'm not saying go out and get a non-medical job for novelty's sake. Go out and work as a scribe or EMT if you want to. Just don't think that it will be your ticket to med school compared to a job at McDonald's.
My point was exactly what you are saying. It's not the job itself. Just like it isn't being in a club or doing research. It's the experiences and lessons you get out of it, and the important thing is to convey those to adcoms. But you can get those same lessons out of a medical or non-medical job.
The reason I point out that a non-medical job or activity can actually help you in an interview over a medical job is that people refuse to believe it. Adcoms sit there all day hearing about the same types of clinical encounters (even if they are unique and meaningful to you). They like to talk about other things, and it can lead to memorable discussions. That is not an endorsement to just run out and do non-medical things. Do medical things if you want. Most do who get in. However, don't be afraid to do something non-medical if you want to. It will not hurt you, and it can very well help you.
Phlebotomy
In my state no licensure is required.
Just did a quick 6 week course/ 2 nights a week and got certified
I was agreeing with you, and supporting what you said. I guess my joke fell a little flat, but my comment about delivering pizza as opposed to delivering a baby was in jest.
No need to be so touchy man, I wasn't trying to be divisive.
I work at my college's library in the administration office. Until I saw this thread I was planning on going for EMS as a summer job, if I could. I'm sure I'd be okay with the other medical jobs, as well. I think they would all have something interesting to teach me.
Should I scrap that idea and apply to work somewhere else like... Express? Or do you guys think it's sufficient for me to just have the work study as a non-medical thing? As it stands right now, my overall is 3.9 and my sGPA is 4.0. I know that can change. But let's, for the sake of curiosity, assume that they'll stay pretty much the same. Would my plan for being an EMT as a summer job be okay? I'm also trying to get into some research because I'm contemplating MD/PhD. And when I have transportation I'll do some volunteering and shadowing.
I know you guys said it's not necessary to have either type of job. But I was just wondering, assuming my grades stay relatively similar, if doing something like working at Express (or some other non-medical job, I just know I can get hired there) would help my application any more. If you think I would need it to, anyways.
Thanks!
Search craigslist for things like "medical assistant." During my job search I found that most of the jobs in hospitals (which are the ones advertising in newspapers, monster, etc) were looking for certifications like cna. By contract doctors offices often don't care about these, and a lot are excited about having someone around who is actually interested in medicine and progressing in the field, rather than someone for whom it would be just a job.
What are some good jobs for premeds. A job that can be balanced w/ school and studies.
Hospital switchboard.... I work at 2 hospitals doing switchboard PRN at both. I get to do my homework and I get some patient experience. (At one hospital I actually dispatch the ambulances and check in ER patients, at another I work in the ER registration side and switchboard. The patient experience there is going to the room to register the patients after they've been treated.)
See, this is one of the problems with SDN. No, you don't have to have some crappy retail job to get into medical school. Will it hurt your chances? No. Will it help you? Debatable. What will help you is having ANY job where you show initiative, responsibility, and dedication. If you want to be an EMT, do it, especially if you'll have actual EMT experience, not just taking the course. If you would prefer to work at Express do that. All other things being equal, someone who folded clothes at Express does not have an advantage over someone who worked as an EMT. Having clinical experience is NEVER a negative, it's just not necessarily a magic ticket. Working at Express won't be a magic ticket either.
You will benefit from having something non-medical to talk about, but it definitely does not have to be a job. It could be anything from playing the ukulele to hiking the highest peak in every state
Okay, no need to be rude. I read the damn posts.
I'm wondering what sort of "non-medical" things I might wanna look into for the possibility of looking more unique. Not just to improve my application, but I know that I need to expand my horizons. I don't really do anything besides studying and relaxing with my boyfriend. I've played music since middle school but I stopped in college because I didn't feel I had the time for it. So I was thinking of actually getting proper instruction for piano. Literally ever since I was born people have been like, "You have such long fingers! You'd be great at piano!" Plus, I've always wanted to learn it anyways. But would it look bad to just start new things in college such as this? You know, since that could look like I only did those things for my app. Some of these things I've just never had an opportunity to do. I couldn't do sports because I was needed for marching band which was the same season a the sports I liked. I'm thinking of joining intramural volleyball. I mean, I suppose it makes sense for a college student to start new things. But I'm wondering if it's bad that I'll probably not have any activities on my app that are more than 3-4 years. I mean I guess if that's the case I can't do anything about it. I'm just wondering.
I'm sorry. I just don't have any ideas besides those mentioned of what sort of things to do. Does running count? Perhaps this question is too broad.
Okay, no need to be rude. I read the damn posts.
I'm wondering what sort of "non-medical" things I might wanna look into for the possibility of looking more unique. Not just to improve my application, but I know that I need to expand my horizons. I don't really do anything besides studying and relaxing with my boyfriend. I've played music since middle school but I stopped in college because I didn't feel I had the time for it. So I was thinking of actually getting proper instruction for piano. Literally ever since I was born people have been like, "You have such long fingers! You'd be great at piano!" Plus, I've always wanted to learn it anyways. But would it look bad to just start new things in college such as this? You know, since that could look like I only did those things for my app. Some of these things I've just never had an opportunity to do. I couldn't do sports because I was needed for marching band which was the same season a the sports I liked. I'm thinking of joining intramural volleyball. I mean, I suppose it makes sense for a college student to start new things. But I'm wondering if it's bad that I'll probably not have any activities on my app that are more than 3-4 years. I mean I guess if that's the case I can't do anything about it. I'm just wondering.
I'm sorry. I just don't have any ideas besides those mentioned of what sort of things to do. Does running count? Perhaps this question is too broad.
My anger wasn't directed at you, it was for the people that like to take one small thing to the extreme such as "I talked about delivering pizzas in my interview = delivering pizzas is the best job. "
You should in general only put things on your app that you've done after hs so having your activities be new in college is normal. If you want some longitudinal experiences join a pep band at school
Morgue tech, you work long hours though, but can end up making hundreds in one night alone. You'll see things that make the nurses leave the room. This can be done during school