GYN subspecialty jobs for males?

[task]

Just wondering. I've got a friend from med school who's thinking about a GYN subspecialty like REI or Urogyn, maybe even Gyn Onc. Just curious -- the job market for men in general OBGYN is supposed to have taken a hit, but what about these subs?

From what my friend says, many women OBs don't often pursue fellowship because they want to get done and get back to real life, make time for having children, etc. So that leaves the world of fellowships pretty much open for males -- but what about the jobs afterwards? Does the supposed bias against male OBs extend to the fellowship trained GYN or not?

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[txchili]

I'm in a Houston Family Practice Program and one of our new faculty is OB/GYN and GYN/ONC and he's had no problems with getting patients or really finding a job!
I would agree with you that probably female OB/GYNs are probably not going to specialize as much, taking into account the extra years.

 

[BacteriaER]

Can you ask that faculty what is salary range for private practice Gyn/Oncologist?
thanks

 

[dankatzzz]

From what I understand GYN ONC are extremly well paid - starting salaries are 250k and above. As for being male, it may be harder in the beginning in a general OB/GYN practice, but what will make a difference is how good you are. If you are a good doc with excellent interpersonal skills than you will see your practice grow by word of mouth. This is what a few young male attendings told me. If this is really what you want to do then you should do it - this is how I feel.

 

[LaCirujana]

The BEST resident in the OB/GYN program where I go to school is male. He is phenomenal!
My favorite attendings on my OB/GYN rotation were male, as well. They did tend to be subspecialists, particularly Gyn-Onc.

Unfortunately, the program here is exceptionally difficult and no one in my class went into OB/GYN. A few of the guys that liked the specialty and talked to the clerkship director (also the program director) were completely shot down and discouraged from applying--a huge mistake on her part. The women just liked other things better (like surgery ).

If you love what you do, it will show and you will be successful, whether it be primary OB/Gyn or one of the subspecialties. Don't let some evil clerkship director talk you out of a fabulous career just because of your XY status!

 

[BacteriaER]

That's interesting.The clinical director of the Gyn/OB department at my school actually encourage me to pursue Gyn/Oncology specialty. When I express my XY concern, he dismiss it as nonsense. In fact, he gave me a lecture about "gender should not be your primary concern/deterrent" to pursue this field. He even encourages me to shadow him doing the surgeries. Anyone knows what is the starting salary for a Gyn/Oncologist?
B.

 

[task]

Couple of other questions:

1. Are there many private practice urogynecologists, or are most of them academic (would seem that way from a referral base standpoint -- I would think that many private general OBGYNs don't want to give up procedures to other surgeons if they can do them themselves -- things like TVT slings).

2. What's the job market like for REI?

 

[task]

Don't many general OB/GYNs do many of the procedures that urogynecologists do? I only ask because for this somewhat "new" OBGYN sub, it seems like they would suffer from competition from general OBGYNs in the private world.

 

[LaCirujana]

I don't have any hard figures to back this up, but empirically, REI seems to be pretty hot, given that so many women have chosen to pursue careers and delay having children. With 40+ year-old women now trying to reproduce and their chances slimmer and slimmer each month, repro-endo is often their only shot at having a biological child. Then there's the whole donated egg market that comes into play once the older woman is unsuccessful with her own--so at least on the surface, I would say REI is doing well. Anyone have better, more concrete data?

 

[doughboy]

The issue with general OB-GYN's doing urogyn procedures shouldn't be a problem for future urogynecologists. You need to obtain privileges at the hospitals to do those procedures for one thing and most general OB-GYN's don't do cystoscopies. The competition will be from the urologists who already perform all those procedures. They probably don't like the emergence of urogynecology becuase it will take a piece out of their big pie.