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Since we have a few PA DPMs here, i was hoping if anyone can give first hand review of the following PA programs.

Community medical center PA

Crozer chester medical center

Hahnemann univ hospital

St.lukes hospital allentown

Western pennsylvania

And what do you guys think about the supplemental application fees? Why do they have this? I didnt notice this in illinois or wisconsin programs. Its mostly in PA and NY programs.
 
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And what do you guys think about the supplemental application fees? Why do they have this? I didnt notice this in illinois or wisconsin programs. Its mostly in PA and NY programs.
Some programs ask for supplemental fees to defrey the cost of the application process (staffing...etc), and because it costs to send someone to CRIP to do the interviewing and some hospital systems don't incorporate that into the residecency costs (even though they should).

I've been out of the loop as far as how good programs are these days, but if you list some of the attendings at these institutions, it may help with getting some feedback.
 

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Community Medical---Guida LaPorta is the director. Fantastic surgeon. Program does a lot of ex-fix, I mean a lot.

Crozer- Excellent, less known program. Take good care of the residents. Well rounded.

West Penn- Fantastic program. Well published and well known docs. A historically strong program and produces great doctors.

St. Lukes- Another great but less known program. Has it's own Charcot clinic, well rounded.

Hahnemann--- BAD, BAD, BAD. Avoid at all costs. It's become popular as of late with Temple students but the training you receive is subpar and there are too many good places for training for you to need to go here.

Temple has a super program that is actually opened to students from other schools as of 2 or 3 years ago but everyone just assumes it is Temple only. The training at Temple is some of the best you will find in the country. There is a good mix of older, more well known doctors mixed with outstanding up and coming young docs.

Generally, if you are coming to PA you should focus your time on Presby, Temple, UPMC, West Penn, Allentown, Crozer, Bryn Mawr (no externship), Scranton and maybe Aria although they really only have 1 great doc.
 

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Community Medical---Guida LaPorta is the director. Fantastic surgeon. Program does a lot of ex-fix, I mean a lot.

Crozer- Excellent, less known program. Take good care of the residents. Well rounded.

West Penn- Fantastic program. Well published and well known docs. A historically strong program and produces great doctors.

St. Lukes- Another great but less known program. Has it's own Charcot clinic, well rounded.

Hahnemann--- BAD, BAD, BAD. Avoid at all costs. It's become popular as of late with Temple students but the training you receive is subpar and there are too many good places for training for you to need to go here.

Temple has a super program that is actually opened to students from other schools as of 2 or 3 years ago but everyone just assumes it is Temple only. The training at Temple is some of the best you will find in the country. There is a good mix of older, more well known doctors mixed with outstanding up and coming young docs.

Generally, if you are coming to PA you should focus your time on Presby, Temple, UPMC, West Penn, Allentown, Crozer, Bryn Mawr (no externship), Scranton and maybe Aria although they really only have 1 great doc.
I agree with hahnemann not being great.

The rest I cannot comment except for west penn.

Do you want to go into academics? Do you want to publish? Do you want to be very involved in ACFAS and the lecture circuit? Then west penn may be for you.

Do you want to have a lot of hands on surgical experience in residency? West penn may not be for you. Watch very closely how the residents are treated and how much the residents are actually doing in the OR when you visit west penn.

West Penn certainly has a great name and historically is a great program but things change and there are so many other programs out there to get great training and be treated like a human. I'd check out UPMC first.
 

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Wow,

I'm suprised to see/read Hahnemann getting bashed!!!! The residency director Steve Boc used to be the chairman of the surgery department at Temple/PCPM after Michael Downey. However, he fell out of favor because he does a LOT of plaintiff expert witness work. Additionally, I believe Vince Muscarella does work there and he used to be chairman at the Ohio School or PCPM or both if I'm correct.

I know they do a lot of cases, but the word is that the residents are basically Boc's "workers" in the hospital and his office. I'm not sure if the program is that weak or it has developed a bad reputation because some docs don't like Boc because he does a lot of plaintiff's work.

I thought Schoenhaus did cases there, but I guess he's at Presby full time.
 
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Wow,

I'm suprised to see/read Hahnemann getting bashed!!!! The residency director Steve Boc used to be the chairman of the surgery department at Temple/PCPM after Michael Downey. However, he fell out of favor because he does a LOT of plaintiff expert witness work. Additionally, I believe Vince Muscarella does work there and he used to be chairman at the Ohio School or PCPM or both if I'm correct.

I know they do a lot of cases, but the word is that the residents are basically Boc's "workers" in the hospital and his office. I'm not sure if the program is that weak or it has developed a bad reputation because some docs don't like Boc because he does a lot of plaintiff's work.

I thought Schoenhaus did cases there, but I guess he's at Presby full time.
Wow, I'm equally surprised now that I know who the attending/director is. Steve Boc used to be a powerhouse attending back when in the Philly area and his residency at St. Agnes was very sought after. Vince Muscarella is a super nice guy and was the best examiner I had for my oral ABPS exam. His lectures on Ankle Arthroscopy when I was a student really got me interested in Scopes and he did a great job lecturing to us. My how times have changed!
 

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Dr. Vincent Muscarella is a great guy to work with. However, he works with residents from at least 4 local Philadelphia residency programs, based on which hospitals he does his cases at. Just wanted to point out that he does not work exclusively with Hahnemann's residency program.

Dr. Harold Schoenhaus does majority of his cases with Presbyterian residents. Occasionally, he and his colleague may do cases other hospitals.

I think that Hahnemann does offer the residents significant amount of hands on experience, which is great for the residents. However, the training sometimes comes at the expense of lack of guidance from an attending physician. I will leave it at that for Hahnemann's program.

Crozer's program is actually very popular here in Philly area. As mentioned early, the residents do enjoy excellent benefits. However, the residents will need to drive between 5 hospitals.
 
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Dr. Vincent Muscarella is a great guy to work with. However, he works with residents from at least 4 local Philadelphia residency programs, based on which hospitals he does his cases at. Just wanted to point out that he does not work exclusively with Hahnemann's residency program.

Dr. Harold Schoenhaus does majority of his cases with Presbyterian residents. Occasionally, he and his colleague may do cases other hospitals.
I'm glad to hear that Dr. Schoehaus and Dr. Muscarella are still active with residencies. Podiatry would not be where it is today without them. And no...I don't work for either of them :D.