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If a guy complains about using a condom and gets annoyed when you ask, he CLEARLY doesn't respect you. Someone who doesn't respect you would probably lie to you about whether or not they have been tested for STDs. You shouldn't be sleeping with guys you don't respect you. You are putting yourself at risk.

I wish I could call your mother. You need an ass whoopin' STAT.

You are going in the wrong direction with those statements. A guy who complains about using condoms and gets annoyed doesn't respect HIMSELF. It echoes "I'm a loser now and will be a loser forever so why not knock this chick up and get a disease while I'm at it? I'm already a huge loser". Respect is earned but how can you respect someone else when you dont even respect yourself? And it goes both ways too. I would NEVER have sex with a chick that complained about birth control. NEVER.

And guys are not complicated at all. Want to know if we want to bang you? Text us "hey what are you doing tonight" and if we respond with something other than "nothing. Want to come over to my place?" then we aren't interested.

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I didn't mean to say I encounter many that won't wear condoms. I mean all the ones I been with do not like the idea. They just rather not...hence why it's only used 50% of the time. Thank god I don't ever forget to take my pill.

I would say most women my age (late 20s) have been with ~10 guys I been with less.

:barf:
 
And guys are not complicated at all. Want to know if we want to bang you? Text us "hey what are you doing tonight" and if we respond with something other than "nothing. Want to come over to my place?" then we aren't interested.

Much simpler than that. Just smile at us and see if something stands out.
 
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You are going in the wrong direction with those statements. A guy who complains about using condoms and gets annoyed doesn't respect HIMSELF. It echoes "I'm a loser now and will be a loser forever so why not knock this chick up and get a disease while I'm at it? I'm already a huge loser". Respect is earned but how can you respect someone else when you dont even respect yourself? And it goes both ways too. I would NEVER have sex with a chick that complained about birth control. NEVER.

I'm not going in the wrong direction. I'm looking at it from the perspective of the female, because I am female. I don't really care what loser issues some dude has that make him unwilling to wear a condom. I just know she shouldn't be sleeping with him.
 
You are going in the wrong direction with those statements. A guy who complains about using condoms and gets annoyed doesn't respect HIMSELF. It echoes "I'm a loser now and will be a loser forever so why not knock this chick up and get a disease while I'm at it? I'm already a huge loser". Respect is earned but how can you respect someone else when you dont even respect yourself? And it goes both ways too. I would NEVER have sex with a chick that complained about birth control. NEVER.

And guys are not complicated at all. Want to know if we want to bang you? Text us "hey what are you doing tonight" and if we respond with something other than "nothing. Want to come over to my place?" then we aren't interested.

Well that's VERY RISKY for men IMO. B/c any woman can say "I am on the pill" and then you can have sex with her and she could very easily NOT take the pill just to get preggers and have you pay her for 18+ years! :eek: In fact I know TONS of men that have crazy gfs that want to marry them...you know what they do? STOP taking their pills on purpose so they can get preggars and FORCE their bfs to marry them! It happend to this IT guy at my last rotation site! lol


Lastly, this classmate of mine is VERY STRANGE and I can't figure him out.

1) Begining of P1 year he started flirting with me some...then second semester P1 year he sat beside me in class everyday for 2 months.
2) He then moved away and ignored me after that...
3) I figure he was just not interested so oh well...move on.
4) He ignored me ever since then....
5) P4 year (3 years LATER)...he text me out of the blue to grab lunch and he then ask me to come over to his house and then now he texts me on a regular basis to hangout. He and I are good friends now.

You tell me that ain't f*cking werid.

Normally if a guy is interested he will ask you out right away. If he is NOT interested he will NEVER ask you out..but ignoring someone and then asking them to hangout THREE YEARS LATER...is strange. LOL
 
SHC... he ISN'T interested in you. He ISN'T into you. He just figured out that you would **** him. And he's taking advantage of that. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah most likely. LOL...He listens to me talk for hours and we go on dates too though...so that's something. LOL...but yeah most likely...most men only care about sex.
 
Is 10 a lot? I thought that was the average number for women before marriage...I know some that's been with much more....

If every mid-20s male and female had been with 10 people, you've shared every STD 100 sleeping parners have exposed them to. Congratulations, tell her what she's won.

I've been with one, and I'm pretty sure it'll end that way for me.
 
1) Begining of P1 year he started flirting with me some...then second semester P1 year he sat beside me in class everyday for 2 months.
2) He then moved away and ignored me after that...
3) I figure he was just not interested so oh well...move on.
4) He ignored me ever since then....
5) P4 year (3 years LATER)...he text me out of the blue to grab lunch and he then ask me to come over to his house and then now he texts me on a regular basis to hangout. He and I are good friends now.
Hey OP, this is how you get out of the friend zone.
 
I'm not going in the wrong direction. I'm looking at it from the perspective of the female, because I am female. I don't really care what loser issues some dude has that make him unwilling to wear a condom. I just know she shouldn't be sleeping with him.

You should care, that's the point. It doesn't matter if the guy respects you or not if he's hesitant to use protection then he's a loser. There's no two ways about it. Those who have sex with losers are losers themselves. It's all about SELF respect, not what others think of you. I only do what's best for número uno: myself.

You can have respect for me and I can have respect for you but if you balk at the idea of birth control then you aren't getting naked with me. Simple as that.
 
Is 10 a lot? I thought that was the average number for women before marriage...I know some that's been with much more....

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I give up. Hope you stay healthy, as much as I hate you. :D
 
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Well that's VERY RISKY for men IMO. B/c any woman can say "I am on the pill" and then you can have sex with her and she could very easily NOT take the pill just to get preggers and have you pay her for 18+ years! :eek: In fact I know TONS of men that have crazy gfs that want to marry them...you know what they do? STOP taking their pills on purpose so they can get preggars and FORCE their bfs to marry them! It happend to this IT guy at my last rotation site! lol

Excuses, excuses, excuses. That's not risky AT ALL. Sure any woman can say that which is why you use condoms 100% of the time with no excuses. If a chick did that to me then it's hail mary time.

You know what a hail mary is, right?
 
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I didn't mean to say I encounter many that won't wear condoms. I mean all the ones I been with do not like the idea. They just rather not...hence why it's only used 50% of the time. Thank god I don't ever forget to take my pill.

I would say most women my age (late 20s) have been with ~10 guys I been with less.

Studies on this are obviously flawed, but the last one I read had heterosexual men and women with a lifetime average of 14 (has to be equal for obvious reasons).

Average for homosexual men was >100 and homosexual women was 2.

These are averages, so I have no idea where the medians are (I'd assume a positive skew, ie mean > median, for most of those).

And as I said, these studies are almost all severely flawed.
 
Should I expect to meet many female students like SHC in pharmacy school?
 
Homosexual woman = 2?

I know, I'm sure it's wrong, but I thought it was interesting that the numbers worked mathematically...

And by that I mean if you assign a value to men :thumbup: and one to women (x)...

Homosexual men ~ y^2
Heterosexual ~ x*y
Homosexual women ~ x^2

Where x is root 2 and y is 10.

/dork
 
No data for bisexual women?

I can't remember - they may have been under heterosexual women or homosexual women (or omitted). This is vaguely remembered from a copy of "The Guide to Getting It On" that one of my little brother's friends hid in my bedroom since he was scared his mom would find it (so I read it of course, but this was well over a decade ago).
 
I can't remember - they may have been under heterosexual women. This is vaguely remembered from a copy of "The Guide to Getting It On" that one of my little brother's friends hid in my bedroom since he was scared his mom would find it (so I read it of course, but this was well over a decade ago).


Oh good lord. Cite a reputable source or go home! :p

I'm sure the number for lesbian women is too low. The numbers for male and female also do not have to be equal...
 
Oh good lord. Cite a reputable source or go home! :p

I'm sure the number for lesbian women is too low. The numbers for male and female also do not have to be equal...

Haha, the book actually cited a real study (despite the title, surprisingly scientific).

Don't remember which one and don't have my own copy, sorry. :p
 
You should care, that's the point. It doesn't matter if the guy respects you or not if he's hesitant to use protection then he's a loser. There's no two ways about it. Those who have sex with losers are losers themselves. It's all about SELF respect, not what others think of you. I only do what's best for número uno: myself.

You can have respect for me and I can have respect for you but if you balk at the idea of birth control then you aren't getting naked with me. Simple as that.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. That's not risky AT ALL. Sure any woman can say that which is why you use condoms 100% of the time with no excuses. If a chick did that to me then it's hail mary time.

You know what a hail mary is, right?

I think you worry TOO MUCH then...LOL...if you ALWAYS bring your own condoms (don't use a woman's I know some that poke holes in them to get preggars again to get the man to marry her! :laugh:)

But if you bring your own condoms and ALWAYS use your own condoms...then who cares if she is on birth control or not? You are using condoms you are 99.9999999% save.

The chances of pregnancy is silm to none (maybe 0.0000001%) if you take your birth control everyday without ever missing doses or if you wear condoms that don't have holes poke in them or expired etc. so it really isn't an issue.

However, most women forget to take a pill here and there and get preggars fast THATS the main problem.


Studies on this are obviously flawed, but the last one I read had heterosexual men and women with a lifetime average of 14 (has to be equal for obvious reasons).

Average for homosexual men was >100 and homosexual women was 2.

These are averages, so I have no idea where the medians are (I'd assume a positive skew, ie mean > median, for most of those).

And as I said, these studies are almost all severely flawed.

I know nothing about homosexuals....but my guess would be 10 for women and 15 for men on average...so 14 is close enough. I figure that's about right.
 
I know nothing about homosexuals....but my guess would be 10 for women and 15 for men on average...so 14 is close enough. I figure that's about right.

You know the average has to be equal, right?

Every time a guy has sex with a women, she is also having sex with him. :p

Now this could be accomplished by 1 woman having sex with every man in the world and the rest averaging 13, but the overall average still has to be equal to 14 if that's the male heterosexual average.
 
Also, condoms aren't really 99% effective.

Realistically it's only around 80% since people do not use them perfectly.
 
You know the average has to be equal, right?

Every time a guy has sex with a women, she is also having sex with him. :p

Now this could be accomplished by 1 woman having sex with every man in the world and the rest averaging 13, but the overall average still has to be equal to 14 if that's the male heterosexual average.

The numbers do not have to be average: http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html#number
 
You know the average has to be equal, right?

Every time a guy has sex with a women, she is also having sex with him. :p

Now this could be accomplished by 1 woman having sex with every man in the world and the rest averaging 13, but the overall average still has to be equal to 14 if that's the male heterosexual average.

Hmm...let me think about this one...I always thought men would be a bit higher...let me think here. LOL

Anyone else here have any ideas on this? :confused:


Also, condoms aren't really 99% effective.

Realistically it's only around 80% since people do not use them perfectly.

Condoms and birth control are both over 99% effective if you use them AS DIRECTED. But if you are an idiot and don't know how to follow simple directions than that's your own fault NOT the product's fault.

If I forget to take my pill it means I have a terrible memory or can't follow directions...the pill is still 99% effective if I take it everyday as directed. :)
 
No one uses condoms perfectly outside of a lab (wonder how you get that job).

Real world stats for condom use are around 80%, and that's for regular people (not idiots).

The 99% stat is for failure of the condom itself (manufacturing defects, etc).
 
And yes, if you are only looking at heterosexual pairings (all pairings, even if its a bi guy and a girl, etc etc) and everyone is truthful, you can prove mathematically the averages must be equal.
 
No one uses condoms perfectly outside of a lab (wonder how you get that job).

Real world stats for condom use are around 80%, and that's for regular people (not idiots).

The 99% stat is for failure of the condom itself (manufacturing defects, etc).

Interesting. Let me look that up.

And yes, if you are only looking at heterosexual pairings (all pairings, even if its a bi guy and a girl, etc etc) and everyone is truthful, you can prove mathematically the averages must be equal.

God. I wish I was better at math so I can figure this out. :laugh:

But one thing that makes sense is that they are both most likely in the teens. More than 10 less than 20 sounds about right for the average.
 
.....10???? I'm WAY behind on the curve. I'm so embarrassed, so does this mean you guys on this forum have ~5 -7 give or take?
 
Maybe it is true. :shrug:

Who are these people who have sex with 10 to 15 people? I think that's a lot, and pretty gross.

.....10???? I'm WAY behind on the curve. I'm so embarrassed, so does this mean you guys on this forum have ~5 -7 give or take?

LOL...I been with less than 10.

But people are becoming more liberal these days...that's why we fill 1000000000000+ scripts of birth control and viagra. So having an average of 10 to 15 sounds about right.

If people didn't sleep around than we do not ever need birth control or viagra or condoms etc...but we do.
 
Oh, actually I did lie a bit - the average must be equal assuming equal numbers of women and men.

Total # of women = W
Total # of men = M
Total # of heterosexual pairings = X(XX; for group sex, add up each pair separately, ie one MMW threesome = two heterosexual pairings)

Average for women = X/W
Average for men = X/M

If M=W, they're equal.
 
LOL...I been with less than 10.

But people are becoming more liberal these days...that's why we fill 1000000000000+ scripts of birth control and viagra. So having an average of 10 to 15 sounds about right.

If people didn't sleep around than we do not ever need birth control or viagra or condoms etc...but we do.

People can have a lot of sex and still have a low number of lifetime partners.
 
Oh, actually I did lie a bit - the average must be equal assuming equal numbers of women and men.

Total # of women = W
Total # of men = M
Total # of heterosexual pairings = X(XX; for group sex, add up each pair separately, ie one MMW threesome = two heterosexual pairings)

Average for women = X/W
Average for men = X/M

If M=W, they're equal.

There are more women on earth than men, so it makes sense that men have been with more women. If there were 200 women and only 5 men...of course the men will have more sexual partners. LOL

This makes sense now.
 
There are more women on earth than men, so it makes sense that men have been with more women. If there were 200 women and only 5 men...of course the men will have more sexual partners. LOL

This makes sense now.

Yeah, but the difference is 1% max.

That's 13.7 for women and 14.3 for men (assuming average of 14).

And most of the gender imbalance is in the elderly... Unless those old ladies are really getting around, that probably evens things out even more.
 
Well that's VERY RISKY for men IMO. B/c any woman can say "I am on the pill" and then you can have sex with her and she could very easily NOT take the pill just to get preggers and have you pay her for 18+ years! :eek: In fact I know TONS of men that have crazy gfs that want to marry them...you know what they do? STOP taking their pills on purpose so they can get preggars and FORCE their bfs to marry them! It happend to this IT guy at my last rotation site! lol


Lastly, this classmate of mine is VERY STRANGE and I can't figure him out.

1) Begining of P1 year he started flirting with me some...then second semester P1 year he sat beside me in class everyday for 2 months.
2) He then moved away and ignored me after that...
3) I figure he was just not interested so oh well...move on.
4) He ignored me ever since then....
5) P4 year (3 years LATER)...he text me out of the blue to grab lunch and he then ask me to come over to his house and then now he texts me on a regular basis to hangout. He and I are good friends now.

You tell me that ain't f*cking werid.

Normally if a guy is interested he will ask you out right away. If he is NOT interested he will NEVER ask you out..but ignoring someone and then asking them to hangout THREE YEARS LATER...is strange. LOL
My guess, he was interested in you P1 year, but then got a girlfriend/fwb and decided not to pursue you anymore. P4 year, he broke up with that other girl, so now he's back on the market, and since you were still on his list of prospects, that's where he started to search.
SHC... he ISN'T interested in you. He ISN'T into you. He just figured out that you would **** him. And he's taking advantage of that. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's not like only one person wants sex though. SHC isn't putting out to this guy in hopes of some relationship or prize. They both just want to get laid. They're both taking advantage of each other. It makes the world go 'round. That's great for everyone involved.
Real world stats for condom use are around 80%, and that's for regular people (not idiots).
But real world people ARE idiots :smuggrin:
 
Yeah, but the difference is 1% max.

That's 13.7 for women and 14.3 for men (assuming average of 14).

And most of the gender imbalance is in the elderly... Unless those old ladies are really getting around, that probably evens things out even more.
I actually saw something on the news about that... the seniors visiting the senior centers were having STD outbreaks because these lonely widows and widowers were meeting up. Talk about harrowing.
 
Hey SHC....if we can meet irl, do you want to meet up?


Hook up? Please?
 
My last ex-girlfriend insisted on not using a condom almost every time. I think she was trying to trap me. Broke up with her because she expected a ring by December 2012, while we only started dating December 2011.

Many if not most women prefer unprotected sex too, just like guys (from a purely physical perspective).

If you're in a monogamous relationship with someone you trust, no real harm.

Doesn't sound like you trusted her though...
 
Hey SHC....if we can meet irl, do you want to meet up?


Hook up? Please?

Not sure which one of these works better.

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Many if not most women prefer unprotected sex too, just like guys (from a purely physical perspective).

If you're in a monogamous relationship with someone you trust, no real harm.

Doesn't sound like you trusted her though...


I trusted her in that she didn't have an STD. But I didn't trust her in that I was pretty sure she was trying to get pregnant therefore trap me. The one time we did it unprotected, I was contemplating buying Plan B and putting it in her food. She took it willingly though.
 
I trusted her in that she didn't have an STD. But I didn't trust her in that I was pretty sure she was trying to get pregnant therefore trap me. The one time we did it unprotected, I was contemplating buying Plan B and putting it in her food. She took it willingly though.

Haha, I know.

Trust about birth control is just as important as faithfulness and STDs.
 
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