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Figured I would throw this out there to start the season off with questions, suggestions, concerns, etc. Good luck to all!
No - programs are not explicitly aware of your ABIM certification status, or lack thereof. This information can be looked up on the ABIM website, but you should be getting interviews before your scores result (if you were taking the exam this year).I am a graduating PGY3 applying this cycle. Unfortunately due to personal and financial reasons, I wont be able to take my AVIM boards this fall of 2019, but will plan to take in 2020. Will this affect my chances? Will the programs even know that I didnt sit for the boards prior to ranking?
Thank you for that clarification! I heard some vague rumours years ago that fellowship match is held after ABIM releases results so programs can adjust rank list based on who passed or didnt pass. But I'm guessing that's just BSNo - programs are not explicitly aware of your ABIM certification status, or lack thereof. This information can be looked up on the ABIM website, but you should be getting interviews before your scores result (if you were taking the exam this year).
It's BS.Thank you for that clarification! I heard some vague rumours years ago that fellowship match is held after ABIM releases results so programs can adjust rank list based on who passed or didnt pass. But I'm guessing that's just BS
List your 3 submitted publications as submitted, pending. You have excellent board scores. Many many hematology oncology fellows are IMGs. I would apply now. Unless you really want to work as a hospitalist for a year or something like that to focus on your publications and studying for ABIM, a year of your life is a year of your life.IMG PGY2 from Community program (Uni affiliated) steps 1-3 > 260s. LORs by Hem Onc but not big names. Many abstracts and posters but no publications. I have submitted 3 but I don't think they will accepted before Eras deadline. I am not sure if should apply this year or wait till I have more publications. Interested in Academic programs only.
Any suggestions or comments are appreciated.
Awards or whatever that section is called.Welcome guys and good luck to everyone. Where can we list research grants on ERAS? Anyone have an idea?
Just means they haven't registered yet this year. Relax. I assure you Stanford's Hem/Onc program is not shutting down.Does anyone know if Stanford is still offering fellowship positions? The program is not even searchable in ERAS, unless I missed something...
Thanks a lot for this morale booster. I have been following these threads for the past 3 yrs and can’t just agree more with you.Posting this early to help the nerves of those with less than stellar CVs:
I am a Carribean grad with 230s for both step scores. Little to nothing in the way of research aside from local conference case presentations. No grants. Never published. No away or audition electives. I went to a community program without a fellowship. I am a first generation doc with no physician-friends/family with any influence. No chief year. I did have good LORs because I did multiple elective rotations and grew to know the docs at my institution well. In general(or at least on paper) I am an average to below average candidate and I matched at my first choice program in the Northeast and I couldn't be happier.
I am posting this because several colleagues will post their impressive credentials in the days and weeks to come. And it will seems like everyone is interviewing at "top tier" programs and has 20 interviews. Seeing this last year I was riddled with anxiety all season thinking that I was not good enough. It even made me depressed at times. I just want you to be confident in yourself and your choice. It can happen for you if you want it. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
Posting this early to help the nerves of those with less than stellar CVs:
I am a Carribean grad with 230s for both step scores. Little to nothing in the way of research aside from local conference case presentations. No grants. Never published. No away or audition electives. I went to a community program without a fellowship. I am a first generation doc with no physician-friends/family with any influence. No chief year. I did have good LORs because I did multiple elective rotations and grew to know the docs at my institution well. In general(or at least on paper) I am an average to below average candidate and I matched at my first choice program in the Northeast and I couldn't be happier.
I am posting this because several colleagues will post their impressive credentials in the days and weeks to come. And it will seems like everyone is interviewing at "top tier" programs and has 20 interviews. Seeing this last year I was riddled with anxiety all season thinking that I was not good enough. It even made me depressed at times. I just want you to be confident in yourself and your choice. It can happen for you if you want it. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
Yes...it's work experience. Put it down. Nobody will care other than it proves that you didn't spend this year in jail.If we are currently working as a hospitalist (start this month) during the application cycle, do we put this in the work/experience section of ERAS? Or do we just leave it and either briefly put in our PS or just bring it up if asked during interviews?
Thanks!
Yes...it's work experience. Put it down. Nobody will care other than it proves that you didn't spend this year in jail.
3-4. Just submit 4.Hello how many LORs do we need to submit if the program has no particular requirement on their website? Thanks
really struggling with this personal statement. changed my draft four times now and reviewed with several trusted advisers, each giving slightly different advice. Now my head is spinning unsure how personal is an applicant to get vs how much technical (i.e. research experience/clerkship experience) we should focus in on. it's always so hard to write about yourself, especially in just a page. good luck to all going through ironing the PS.
In ERAS, is it OK to just submit all documents to all programs, or could this be viewed negatively by, e.g., a program that doesn't require medical school transcripts but receives one anyway? Thanks!
I agree. From prior experience, does anyone have any idea about which kinds of programs offer this?As I'm trying to make my list of programs to apply to I would be interested in some general input for some current/prior fellows. I am largely undecided on my career path and I'm currently thinking academics (likely focusing on education over research, but I'd like some research exposure in fellowship to further decide). From reading comments here over the years, I also know that there's a decent chance I'll end up wanting to do private practice in the end. I'm currently eyeing programs that have different clinical/research/teaching tracks which seems would be a great fit for me, but I was wondering about programs that have required dedicated research months. I'm probably going to avoid places that do the absolute minimum clinical time + 18 research months but would programs that do 6-12 months of research still probably offer excellent clinical training? I know in residency heavy clinical rotations might not even necessarily be the best for education given the lack of free time, and it seems fellowship research months still include continuity clinic.
Hi everyone,
My program did not submit their letter on time so ERAS has not finished processing it. Do you think it is better to apply as early as possible (i.e. now) without their letter or wait for it to be available and then apply? I have everything else I need.
Thanks for all the help!
Thanks!I am in the same situation and plan to apply by Monday, for what it’s worth. I don’t know how much it will affect us in the long term but I think the prevailing wisdom is to apply with what you have and assign letter(s) as they come in.
Did you get enough interviews in the previous cycles when you didn’t match?Here we go! this is my 3rd time applying to hem/onc! I didn't match before, so beside research I did one year Palliative fellowship too! this time I found a job at a cancer center. Not sure what else I can do. If I didn't match this year, I guess I have to find a new targeted therapy or win the Nobel prize for my next year hem/onc application
Last year I had only 5 interviews. Had a friend who had 19! and matched the 13th on his rank list..Did you get enough interviews in the previous cycles when you didn’t match?
Hi everyone,
My program did not submit their letter on time so ERAS has not finished processing it. Do you think it is better to apply as early as possible (i.e. now) without their letter or wait for it to be available and then apply? I have everything else I need.
Thanks for all the help!
Is there anything you can share with us? 5 IVs is decent number to me lol !no connections or IMG? ThanxLast year I had only 5 interviews. Had a friend who had 19! and matched the 13th on his rank list..
Hoping for around 10 interviews this yr.
I would say if you are AMG and you have good scores, then you are already in a good position and just adding few researches and good LORs should be enough. If you have connections then even better.Is there anything you can share with us? 5 IVs is decent number to me lol !no connections or IMG? Thanx
Thank you so much! You will make it!I would say if you are AMG and you have good scores, then you are already in a good position and just adding few researches and good LORs should be enough. If you have connections then even better.
However, if you have low scores and you are IMG, then you really should re-consider applying for hem/onc, or like me try to add as much as you can to your resume. Good scores are kinda basic pre-requirement for Hem/Onc, GI, and Cardiology fellowships.
Good and detailed LORs (not short and generic ones!) can really help your resume.
So, if you have low scores and you do not want to give up your dreams,, then you have to come up with extra things to compensate:
1- research (pubmed published peer review articles (most important), abstracts, poster presentations,..
2- working in a cancer center (ex: oncology hospitalist).
3- Non-ACMG accredited fellowships related to cancer. Ex: 1 yr oncology emergencies at MD Anderson (still competitive to get it!). Look for more. and good luck finding more!!!
4- Doing 1 yr ACMG accredited fellowships: Hospice and Palliative care or Geriatrics. Which one is better? who knows?!
5-other things you can do: doing a chief year residency, honors and achievements and other stuff in your residency (Ex: best resident of the year!), find connections (see if you can find any relatives of the PDs and do favors for them!!!! I'm joking, but things happen lol).
I am going to stop here, and let you use your imaginations more
Again, no rule for how many interviews you need, depends on your personality and how you sell yourself.
Some courtesy interviews never work! Ex: your brother works at a good center and finds you an IV which in a normal condition they would never invite you because of your low scores, don't expect them to even rank you even if they smile at you. But at the end who am I to know?! things always happens, but how often is the question lol
Don't say things that hurt yourself (Ex: when a chief fellow with thick accent interviewing you asking what is your weakness, don't say, oh I have too much accent! lol).
Please what would you consider as “low scores”?I would say if you are AMG and you have good scores, then you are already in a good position and just adding few researches and good LORs should be enough. If you have connections then even better.
However, if you have low scores and you are IMG, then you really should re-consider applying for hem/onc, or like me try to add as much as you can to your resume. Good scores are kinda basic pre-requirement for Hem/Onc, GI, and Cardiology fellowships.
Good and detailed LORs (not short and generic ones!) can really help your resume.
So, if you have low scores and you do not want to give up your dreams,, then you have to come up with extra things to compensate:
1- research (pubmed published peer review articles (most important), abstracts, poster presentations,..
2- working in a cancer center (ex: oncology hospitalist).
3- Non-ACMG accredited fellowships related to cancer. Ex: 1 yr oncology emergencies at MD Anderson (still competitive to get it!). Look for more. and good luck finding more!!!
4- Doing 1 yr ACMG accredited fellowships: Hospice and Palliative care or Geriatrics. Which one is better? who knows?!
5-other things you can do: doing a chief year residency, honors and achievements and other stuff in your residency (Ex: best resident of the year!), find connections (see if you can find any relatives of the PDs and do favors for them!!!! I'm joking, but things happen lol).
I am going to stop here, and let you use your imaginations more
Again, no rule for how many interviews you need, depends on your personality and how you sell yourself.
Some courtesy interviews never work! Ex: your brother works at a good center and finds you an IV which in a normal condition they would never invite you because of your low scores, don't expect them to even rank you even if they smile at you. But at the end who am I to know?! things always happens, but how often is the question lol
Don't say things that hurt yourself (Ex: when a chief fellow with thick accent interviewing you asking what is your weakness, don't say, oh I have too much accent! lol).
Please what would you consider as “low scores”?
I don't think so. Typically they'll reach out with either an interview offer or rejection according to the previous years thread. Any particular concerns?Do programs usually send an automatic e-mail saying they've received your application??
Bro, we’re not rivals in any form. You don’t even know if i’m applying this year. Just wanted your idea of what constitutes a low score for the benefit of present and future readers of this thread. Shalom and good luck in your application.I attached stats from last year from NRMP site. You can make your own conclusion...
I would say you have low scores if:
for step I, your score is below 230-235
for step II CK, your score is below 225-230 (am I right?!)
for step III, your score is below 210
But it is all about ranges, and there ARE people who matched with lower scores, so again depends on what else you have on your CV.
Here is the link for you my friend and rival
of course. it was a joke, changing serious vibe here . Handling small jokes is a plus take it easyBro, we’re not rivals in any form. You don’t even know if i’m applying this year. Just wanted your idea of what constitutes a low score for the benefit of present and future readers of this thread. Shalom and good luck in your application.
Apparently Iowa sent out interviews today. It has begun.