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I assume this link works for everyone http://www.ascp.org/MainMenu/residents/Hematopathology-Fellowship-Job-Market-Robust.aspx

Highlights:

Data from hemepath fellow in-service exam (called FISHE, didn't even know this existed)

1 - 103 respondents, half were doing another fellowship in something else either before or after - 25% said it was because they thought the extra fellowship would be important for getting a job

2 - 76 potential job seekers, 65 of these applied for jobs (I would like to see what the other 11 are doing). 62/65 interviewed for a job, half of these received only one job offer, the other half more than one. they don't say that any of them received no job offers.

3 - Most found their job in under 3 months

4 - 39% were offered a job to stay at their program, less than half accepted.

5 - 44% of jobs were community jobs, 33% academic, 11% reference lab

6 - Will direct quote the following: "Employment Status. Thirty-nine of 61 new hires (64%) will work in an employee-employer relationship. Twenty-two of 27 new hires (82%) will work in community practices, while the remainder will work as partners or potential practice partners."

7- Salary - 10% >$250k, 20% 200-250, 40% 150-200, 27% 100-150, 3% <100

8 - 67% restricted job search to a specific region.

9 - Most important factors in finding a job: Referrals from faculty and word of mouth


My comments:

1) Salary numbers seem ok. Not seeing the higher numbers of <$100k as before. 70% are starting at >$150k, and given that 33% were academic jobs, seems like there probably aren't many non-academic jobs paying less than $150k to start.

2) Who are these people who are in residency or fellowship but don't apply for jobs? They seem to mess up survey results because there are always a high percentage of them (>10% of respondents). Are these people just slow? lazy? Getting random job offers without applying at all? Are these the same people who have major trouble with finding jobs, and if so, have they ever considered that there could be a correlation between not seriously looking for a job and not finding one? Do they sound out inquiries, but not formal applications, and never hear back?

3) I am not sure what to think about #6. Only 18% of these who went into community practice are potential practice partners? That is a little odd. Are there a lot of employer-employee groups out there now? And if so, who is in control? I looked at a handful of potential jobs. A couple of the private jobs I looked into (but didn't really pursue or formally apply for) were large hospitals where the pathologists were hospital employees. But the other ones were all potential partnership jobs. My other possible explanation for this low 18% number is that people just have no clue what a partnership really means (which is probably also bad news). Maybe they think, "private practice" is all that matters?
 
2) Who are these people who are in residency or fellowship but don't apply for jobs?

Thanks for posting this.

In regards to your question I would theorize that these are possibly FMGs who have to return to their country after their residency training here. Therefore there is no purpose for them to apply for jobs since many don't have a J1 ViSA or green card.
 
. . . I would theorize that these are possibly FMGs who have to return to their country after their residency training here. Therefore there is no purpose for them to apply for jobs since many don't have a J1 ViSA or green card.

I think this is probably right and would account for most of the unusual number of people who are not reporting that they are on the job hunt. Of course, I'm sure that there are a few of those surveyed who have other strange reasons for not being job-seeking. As an anecdote, I know 3 FMGs from my school's program who intend on returning to their home country after residency/fellowship.
 
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Thanks for posting this info. I gotta say that the data is a little disappointing. I always thought of heme-path to be among the most marketable fellowships. I think this reflects the state of the pathology job market as a whole.
 
Thanks for posting this info. I gotta say that the data is a little disappointing. I always thought of heme-path to be among the most marketable fellowships. I think this reflects the state of the pathology job market as a whole.

Well I think I somewhat agree with you. But if you think about it, these are mostly starting salaries. Most physicians start right there. Also, alot of the jobs that were offered were within academics (notoriously very low pay and thus the 100-150 range). I will not call it fabulous or "robust" but its not horrible either.
 
I think this is very positive as:
1. Hemepath is not one of the most lucrative subspecialties of path from what I have heard
2. 70% STARTED with a salary above 150K
3. Undoubtedly, these stats include academic salaries which obviously will skew the mean
4. Path tends to attract a lot of academics which could indicate a higher number of academics in this data set than in other specialties (when comparing salaries between specialties)
 
Thanks for posting this info. I gotta say that the data is a little disappointing. I always thought of heme-path to be among the most marketable fellowships. I think this reflects the state of the pathology job market as a whole.

What is specifically disappointing about it? What I got out of it was the opposite impression. I was confused about the small number of "partnership" positions, but like I said my thought was that that could be from people not understanding what it meant, because it doesn't make sense that it is that low.

I can see interpreting the "half of these received only one job offer" as discouraging, but in truth many people don't hang around long enough or weigh offers long enough to get more than one formal offer. They just take it. It could also mean that the offers were good offers and hard to turn down.

The salary numbers seem reasonable. The % under $150k is pretty close to the academic percentage, and there aren't many academic places that would start at >$150k/year. The real question about salaries is not what your starting salary is, but what it is about 5 years out. If it's still under $200k and you are in private practice, that's worrisome.
 
3) I am not sure what to think about #6. Only 18% of these who went into community practice are potential practice partners? That is a little odd. Not odd at all really, actually of the 18% only about 1/2 will actually achieve partnership, so really it is about 9% at the endgame Are there a lot of employer-employee groups out there now? Yes and they are the ones growing And if so, who is in control? combination of business managers (MBA types) and senior pathologists typically I looked at a handful of potential jobs. A couple of the private jobs I looked into (but didn't really pursue or formally apply for) were large hospitals where the pathologists were hospital employees. But the other ones were all potential partnership jobs.

See above
 
That's interesting. Not surprising, I just didn't think it happened to that extent. Most of our graduates who do not go into academics enter a partnership track position, so I just figured it was more common than the study said. Maybe some of it is regional.
 
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