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Let it be said that I am not one to bash nurses or really have a strong opinion in regards to a white coat, but I just heard a commercial on the radio that I must share...

It said 'Are you wanting to advance your career? Are you ready to wear that white coat that comes with a BSN degree? Come to ______________________ to take the next step in your career now!' BSNs wear white coats now too?!

Wut
 

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Hello friends,
Let it be said that I am not one to bash nurses or really have a strong opinion in regards to a white coat, but I just heard a commercial on the radio that I must share...

It said 'Are you wanting to advance your career? Are you ready to wear that white coat that comes with a BSN degree? Come to ______________________ to take the next step in your career now!' BSNs wear white coats now too?!

Wut
Uh yeah....almost everyone in the hospital wears white coats now. Where've you been? We lost that symbol a long time ago.
 

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Uh yeah....almost everyone in the hospital wears white coats now. Where've you been? We lost that symbol a long time ago.
Yeah, it's not really hilarious. More like disappointment.
 

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I wear my white coat to class on the daily. I gotta let all these peasants know that I'm better than them. I represent. I'm also a pre-med.
You'll be even more legit if you have it embroidered with "Werunthis, Future MD".
 
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Well the coat is nice for when I spill something on myself or didn't do a good job ironing.
In South America, a white coat is called a "guardapolvo", literally "a dust cover" and they are worn by school children.
 

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Uh yeah....almost everyone in the hospital wears white coats now. Where've you been? We lost that symbol a long time ago.
I worked at a hospital where some of the cafeteria people even wore white lab coats. These days the progression is short white coat to long white coat to no coat. These days, If you show up to work wearing and carrying nothing people know you've made it.
 

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the white coat is overrated anyway
Agreed. I hate wearing it. Although the pockets are nice for snacks.
In South America, a white coat is called a "guardapolvo", literally "a dust cover" and they are worn by school children.
I worked at a hospital where some of the cafeteria people even wore white lab coats. These days the progression is short white coat to long white coat to no coat. These days, If you show up to work wearing and carrying nothing people know you've made it.
If the white coat is this overrated to the point it lost its traditional purpose, i think we can all agree that the so-called "White Coat Ceremony" is far overrated (and useless) in itself. Then again, it has nothing to do with the students, but allows their friends and family to naively brag about some made-up value. Kinda tragic.

It would be also horrible for any US medical school to require attending the White Coat Ceremony. Talk about a massive insult to injury.
 

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If the white coat is this overrated to the point it lost its traditional purpose, i think we can all agree that the so-called "White Coat Ceremony" is far overrated (and useless) in itself. Then again, it has nothing to do with the students, but allows their friends and family to naively brag about some made-up value. Kinda tragic.

It would be also horrible for any US medical school to require attending the White Coat Ceremony. Talk about a massive insult to injury.
There are finite opportunities for pomp and circumstance and for family and friends to celebrate your accomplishments. The white coat ceremony was never about the coat any more than a graduation is about the fake rolled up "parchment" some places use in lieu of the diploma you'll get sent later. So I don't think that ceremony is devalued in any way.
 

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There are finite opportunities for pomp and circumstance and for family and friends to celebrate your accomplishments. The white coat ceremony was never about the coat any more than a graduation is about the fake rolled up "parchment" some places use in lieu of the diploma you'll get sent later. So I don't think that ceremony is devalued in any way.
But it involves enshrining the student with the white coat as a mark of the student's formal entry into the medical profession. So that in itself symbolizes the white coat to be something important when it really isn't.
 

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But it involves enshrining the student with the white coat as a mark of the student's formal entry into the medical profession. So that in itself symbolizes the white coat to be something important when it really isn't.
Sure, it's a symbol. It's meaningless outside of the ceremony. And That's totally fine. It's no different than winning a trophy, knowing that i or anyone can go to the store and buy a trophy just as pretty for $20. but I wouldn't bother because the item itself isn't the honor. it's just a symbol of the honor.
 
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Would be interesting if we all changed to black coats, bowing down before the medical snake.

Slytherin anyone?
Most days I feel like a Hufflepuff.
 

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A lot of docs just wear scrubs most of the time anyway.

This some really funny doc envy though.
 

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If the white coat is this overrated to the point it lost its traditional purpose, i think we can all agree that the so-called "White Coat Ceremony" is far overrated (and useless) in itself. Then again, it has nothing to do with the students, but allows their friends and family to naively brag about some made-up value. Kinda tragic.

It would be also horrible for any US medical school to require attending the White Coat Ceremony. Talk about a massive insult to injury.
But it involves enshrining the student with the white coat as a mark of the student's formal entry into the medical profession. So that in itself symbolizes the white coat to be something important when it really isn't.
I think you're overreacting. The ceremony is a symbol of entering the medical profession, nothing more. A formal way for your family and friends to celebrate this milestone. You can protest it if it makes you feel better about it, but you'll probably still be required to wear the coat for most patient interactions.
 

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I never quite understood how posters from the allo board consider the white coat ceremony as some sort of human rights violation. Then again, half the allo board spends their time actively looking for things to be enraged about.

It's a f-cking ceremony. Take your family. Get a steak dinner out of it. Move on with your life.
 

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Sure, it's a symbol. It's meaningless outside of the ceremony. And That's totally fine. It's no different than winning a trophy, knowing that i or anyone can go to the store and buy a trophy just as pretty for $20. but I wouldn't bother because the item itself isn't the honor. it's just a symbol of the honor.
Ok i suppose that is the best way to look at it.

I think you're overreacting. The ceremony is a symbol of entering the medical profession, nothing more. A formal way for your family and friends to celebrate this milestone. You can protest it if it makes you feel better about it, but you'll probably still be required to wear the coat for most patient interactions.
I never quite understood how posters from the allo board consider the white coat ceremony as some sort of human rights violation. Then again, half the allo board spends their time actively looking for things to be enraged about.

It's a f-cking ceremony. Take your family. Get a steak dinner out of it. Move on with your life.
Nah not enraged. I'm just puzzled by this apparent contradiction (viewing the white coat to be a symbol of medical profession vs wanting to burn the useless white coat by MS3/MS4 etc.)
 

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Ok i suppose that is the best way to look at it.




Nah not enraged. I'm just puzzled by this apparent contradiction (viewing the white coat to be a symbol of medical profession vs wanting to burn the useless white coat by MS3/MS4 etc.)
you're putting way too much thought into it.
 
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Nah not enraged. I'm just puzzled by this apparent contradiction (viewing the white coat to be a symbol of medical profession vs wanting to burn the useless white coat by MS3/MS4 etc.)
It's not really a contradiction, it's just the nature of symbols that one's feelings toward them can change. I remember how excited I was to finally have a pager as an MS3. At the end of residency, I drove over my pager with my car (the hospital switched models and I didn't have to give mine back). Or going further back, think about how big a deal it is to have a letter jacket as a high schooler. But wear one to class in college just a few months after graduating and you'll be laughed off campus. And on and on.
 

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you're putting way too much thought into it.
It's not really a contradiction, it's just the nature of symbols that one's feelings toward them can change. I remember how excited I was to finally have a pager as an MS3. At the end of residency, I drove over my pager with my car (the hospital switched models and I didn't have to give mine back). Or going further back, think about how big a deal it is to have a letter jacket as a high schooler. But wear one to class in college just a few months after graduating and you'll be laughed off campus. And on and on.
Welp. :oops: Yeah you're right. My apologies and thanks for the clarification.
 
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Would be interesting if we all changed to black coats, bowing down before the medical snake.

Slytherin anyone?
I like the cut of your jib. But I'm Ravenclaw, I've been sorted and everything.
 
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