Hofstra PsyD

[Lifon16]

Does anyone have any info on Hofstra's PsyD School- Community Program? Is it a good program? I could really use some help cuz April 15th is really soon!!

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[HopefulSchoolPsych]

Hello! I noticed this post is from years ago, but I found it when searching Hofstra PsyD. Did you end up attending the program?

 

[psych.meout]

Hello! I noticed this post is from years ago, but I found it when searching Hofstra PsyD. Did you end up attending the program?

I doubt you'll get a response from someone who last posted here nearly 8 years ago.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

I know, but I thought it was worth the try

 

[psychrat]

I did an externship with a student from that program. She was a good clinician and was great at assessment. She said she did not have to go through APPIC for internship, so I was somewhat jealous. I lost touch with her, but know her interests were mostly working at a school with kids.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

I did an externship with a student from that program. She was a good clinician and was great at assessment. She said she did not have to go through APPIC for internship, so I was somewhat jealous. I lost touch with her, but know her interests were mostly working at a school with kids.

Thank you for responding! I love the program but I am unsure if it would be limiting if I decide to pursue academia, because it is a scholar-practitioner model with research components that focus on practicing psychology, as opposed to etiology (which I am more interested in). Did she mention anything about the program?

 

[psych.meout]

Thank you for responding! I love the program but I am unsure if it would be limiting if I decide to pursue academia, because it is a scholar-practitioner model with research components that focus on practicing psychology, as opposed to etiology (which I am more interested in). Did she mention anything about the program?

If you have any interest in getting into TT academia, you need to attend a more research heavy program. TT positions are extremely competitive, even for people with huge research CVs from clinical science programs. The more competitive people for these positions are those who get F31s, K awards, and other grant support, but you don't get these with programs light on research.

 

[calimich]

Thank you for responding! I love the program but I am unsure if it would be limiting if I decide to pursue academia, because it is a scholar-practitioner model with research components that focus on practicing psychology, as opposed to etiology (which I am more interested in). Did she mention anything about the program?

Like most things, it depends. While it's true that tt positions are very competitive, there are different types of academic positions. Do you want to be faculty at a research intensive university, a liberal arts school, a community college? Do you want to teach undergrads, master's students, doctoral students?

Thinking about where you'd like to end up might help with deciding where to begin.

 

[psych.meout]

Like most things, it depends. While it's true that tt positions are very competitive, there are different types of academic positions. Do you want to be faculty at a research intensive university, a liberal arts school, a community college? Do you want to teach undergrads, master's students, doctoral students?

Thinking about where you'd like to end up might help with deciding where to begin.

That's true. I guess that when people say they want to go into "academia," I assume that they are referring to a research intensive university. When people say they want to "teach," I assume that's referring to liberal arts schools and community college.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

Currently, I'd like to teach undergrads at liberal arts or community college!

 

[psych.meout]

Currently, I'd like to teach undergrads at liberal arts or community college!

Well, you can teach at a community college with just a master's degree.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

Well, you can teach at a community college with just a master's degree.

What about at liberal arts?

 

[calimich]

Currently, I'd like to teach undergrads at liberal arts or community college!

In order to secure a tenure track position, even at a community college, you'll need a phd. And community college tt jobs are also extremely competitive.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

In order to secure a tenure track position, even at a community college, you'll need a phd. And community college tt jobs are also extremely competitive.

Not a PsyD?

 

[WisNeuro]

Not a PsyD?

It's possible, just a much harder road to take.

 

[Justanothergrad]

What about at liberal arts?

There are a few exceptions to this, such as when the terminal degree is a masters like MFA or MBA, but when it comes to psychology the answer is no. Liberal arts schools, like all four year degree granting institutions, want highly educated specialist in the field and that means a doctorate. Part of the reason the PhD is preferred is that you can come out having been a TA/Instructor of record with teaching evals. SLAGs value teaching and weight it in their TT requirements and so they want to see it before they hire someone. They won't hire people without teaching experience because that would effectively be a blind hire as to if you can do the job.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

Thank you! These are all super helpful! I will keep this in mind when applying to graduate school programs! So, would you say teaching experience is more important than research experience for pursuing TT at a liberal arts or community college? Or are they equally important?

 

[psych.meout]

Thank you! These are all super helpful! I will keep this in mind when applying to graduate school programs! So, would you say teaching experience is more important than research experience for pursuing TT at a liberal arts or community college? Or are they equally important?

Teaching experience is going to be important, but you need substantial research productivity on your CV for TT. If you just want to be an adjunct and teach classes, then you don't need as much research productivity, but TT jobs are so competitive that you need lots of posters and pubs. It will be marginally less competitive than a large research university, but those are probably going to be also focused on your ability to get grants (e.g., R01).

 

[biscuitsbiscuits]

There is a professor in my program who went to the Hofstra PsyD program. She is an adjunct professor and regularly teaches 1-2 courses/semester, but she is also "associate director" of a research lab here and has a private practice.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

There is a professor in my program who went to the Hofstra PsyD program. She is an adjunct professor and regularly teaches 1-2 courses/semester, but she is also "associate director" of a research lab here and has a private practice.

What does her research lab focus on?

 

[biscuitsbiscuits]

What does her research lab focus on?

memory in infants

 

[Justanothergrad]

What does her research lab focus on?

9 Reasons Why Being An Adjunct Faculty Member Is Terrible | HuffPost

As you consider careers, you should know a bit about what being an Adjunct professor means and how that compares to TT.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

memory in infants

That's so cool!!!

 

[biscuitsbiscuits]

9 Reasons Why Being An Adjunct Faculty Member Is Terrible | HuffPost

As you consider careers, you should know a bit about what being an Adjunct professor means and how that compares to TT.

Just wanted to add that I agree with this and wouldn't recommend adjuncting to anyone unless they knew exactly what they were getting into and for how little compensation. I know people who like it, but I couldn't ever do it. I wouldn't plan a career on it.

 

[HopefulSchoolPsych]

The goal is to be a school psychologist and adjunct professor, so I would just be teaching classes on the side for fun, not for money.

Thank you everyone for all your help!! It's much appreciated!

 

[foreverbull]

The goal is to be a school psychologist and adjunct professor, so I would just be teaching classes on the side for fun, not for money.

Doing adjunct teaching on the side if you plan to have a full-time job as a school psychologist would be difficult considering you'd spend 10+ hours per week (prep, class time, emails/admin, grading, office hours, etc.) per course. I don't think most folks planning to teach "on the side" fully realize the time/energy commitment involved, but if that's your passion, give it a go and see how you like it.

 

[ClinicalABA]

Doing adjunct teaching on the side if you plan to have a full-time job as a school psychologist would be difficult considering you'd spend 10+ hours per week (prep, class time, emails/admin, grading, office hours, etc.) per course. I don't think most folks planning to teach "on the side" fully realize the time/energy commitment involved, but if that's your passion, give it a go and see how you like it.

I adjunct 1 class per semester (Fall, Spring, and Summer) plus an extra independent learning project class in the spring. I don’t find it that bad- most weeks! First go around with a new class takes a ton of work, but after doing it a few times, it may average 8-10 hours per week, but the mode is much less. Big project grading weeks it may be 15-20 hours, other weeks around 5. I’m currently teaching a local section of a hybrid model course, and I have a TA, so it’s a good gig. I’ve seen pay range between ~$3500-5000 per course. I wouldn’t do it for less than $4500. As a side benefit, I get access to lot searches and online journals. I also “teach what I do” doing part of my day job, and it forces me to be up in the research. I’m also consistently challenged to learn from my students.

Back to the OP- don’t take on that much debt, dude. It may end up being worth it, but probably won’t be.