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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gramcracker" data-source="post: 418030" data-attributes="member: 15199">Try joining the AMSA LGBT listserv:<a href="mailto:lgbpm@lists.amsa.org">lgbpm@lists.amsa.org</a>The Gay + Lesbian Medical Association:<a href="http://www.glma.org/home.html">http://www.glma.org/home.html</a><a href="http://www.lgbtcampus.org/directory.htm">http://www.lgbtcampus.org/directory.htm</a><a href="http://www.amsa.org/adv/lgbtpm/resources.cfm">http://www.amsa.org/adv/lgbtpm/resources.cfm</a>Schools with groups and a somewhat (or more) friendly image:TuftsBoston UHarvardYaleBrownNYUMt SinaiEinsteinPennTempleMCP HahnemannPittsburghMUSCCase WesternU of MiamiOhio StateU of WashingtonOregonStanfordUCSFUCLAUCDRobert Wood JohnsonU of MinnesotaAdditional schools that appear to be somewhat LGBT-friendly, but don't seem tohave groups currently:MaineSUNY BrooklynCornellMarylandHopkinsDukeGeorge Washington UMedical College of WisconsinTulaneRushUniversity of Illinois-=-=-=-=New York Gay & Lesbian Physicians present:TO BE OR NOT TO BEDealing with the issue of sexual identity duringthe residency application and interview processAn informal discussion led by residents and attending physicianson the pros and cons of being "out" when applying for residency.NB. Many of the attendings and residents in attendance are interviewersthemselves for residency programs in the NYC area and elsewhere, so listenup to what they have to say!WEDNESDAY, September 19, 20011) Basic infoa) If you write something down on your application, it's fair game to beasked about during the interviewi) Write down what you're comfortable discussingb) Do some research on the programs to which you're applyingi) Use the GLMA directory to locate potential contacts at different programsii) Network, network, network and use it to your advantageiii) Use your contacts to find out what the interview process is like atparticular programsiv) Programs that may not look like G/L/B/T-friendly environments on papermay actually prove to be otherwise and vice-versac) There are G/L/B/T physicians in all specialtiesi) Some specialties have traditionally been less tolerant of alternativelifestyles while others are more accepting.(1) Yes, there are queer surgeons somewhere out there; network and/or useother resources to find them if you are interested in this field so thatyou can get a better idea of what to expectd) Figure out what your priorities arei) Determine if getting into the best possible program, regardless of howhomophobic that environment may be, is your top concernii) Determine what things you will and will not compromise on (e.g.,domestic partner benefits, same-sex housing, etc)2) Should I be out?a) It's a personal decision - there are no "right" answers so you need tofigure out for yourself if you want to be out or noti) Realistically, being out may hurt your chances at some programs becausenot everyone is a progressive thinkerb) Writing about your involvement in G/L/B/T- (e.g., queer youth outreach)or HIV-related issues (e.g., AIDS outreach) does not necessarily out youi) If you devoted a lot of time and energy or exhibited leadership andother desirable qualities in this area, then don't sell yourself short byomitting it from your applicationii) Even though your interviewers shouldn't jump to conclusions based onyour involvement in this area, be prepared to deal with it during yourinterview since it'll be fair game once you write it downc) Don't be out for the sake of being out, especially if it doesn't relateto anything else in your resumei) Don't necessarily volunteer info that won't help your cause3) Interviewinga) You are trying to get a job so act like it and sell yourself well. Youwant them to rank you highly on their list!i) Be professional and try to remain composed no matter what happensii) Don't hit on or try to date your interviewer even if he/she may behitting back on youiii) Don't be too chummy with your interviewer during your interview sincethe two of you may have different ideas of what's acceptable and notiv) Make sure to review whatever you wrote down in your application and beprepared to discuss ANYTHING that you wrote down on itb) Sound genuinei) Your interviewer picks up on hesitancy and such things - that's not agood thingii) Being radically different from what you seem like on paper is probablynot a good thing - you wouldn't want your interviewer to think that youhave some type of psychopathology!iii) If you weren't out on your written application, then don't be duringthe interviewc) Think about all the negative or not-so-stellar things on yourapplication and be prepared to answer questions about them during interviewsi) If the interviewer doesn't bring it up and your conversation is goingwell, don't feel obligated to mention the not so positive stuff - this maylead your interviewer to believe that you're insecureii) Rehearse your answers to these not so stellar things so that if andwhen they come up, you can calmly explain what happenedd) Interviewers may not necessarily know the "rules" (e.g., it is illegalto ask you about your sexual orientation or how you are planning to ranktheir program) or he/she may just be an "evil" person. If you are askedsuch inappropriate questions, you have several courses of action:i) Downplay the question by not answering it, and continue on with yourconversation. Hopefully your interviewer will realize that he/she hascommitted a faux pas and move on orii) Calmly tell your interviewer that you do not want to answer such aninappropriate question, and try to go on with the interview or(1) You might consider writing the program director separately to say thatsuch inappropriate behavior transpired(2) You should also probably consider crossing the program off your listiii) Answer the question forthrightly if you feel comfortable doing so(1) Realize that if you answer the question, you will be disclosing infowhich may or may not affect your application adverselye) If your gaydar suspects that your interviewer may be gay, don't out himor her unless he or she does so firsti) Your interviewer's orientation is immaterial to YOUR applicationii) You might have totally bad gaydar so be carefuliii) Your interviewer may not be out or comfortable being out to casualacquaintancesf) Your interviewer may not be the appropriate person to ask about G/L/B/Tconcerns, benefits, what life is like as an intern/residenti) The program director is the one who should know about these things likebenefits, etcii) To find out about life on the wards, ASK THE HOUSESTAFF(a) If you can't seem to find housestaff during your interview, beware andfigure out why?g) G/L/B/T and non-G/L/B/T folks, including your interviewers, may not havegaydar and may not pick up on the "subtle" clues you've put down in yourapplication or during the interviewi) Play it by ear. If the interviewer doesn't ask you about it, you may notnecessarily want to bring it up.ii) Interviewers who are not out may not want to pick up your clues. Don'tpress the issue if you sense that your interviewer may not be comfortabletalking about such things.4) Figuring out what program is right for youa) During your interview, you're selling yourself to the program as much asthe program is selling itself to youi) You want THEM to rank you highly even though YOU may not rank them highlyb) Take advantage of 2nd look opportunitiesi) This could signal to the program that you are really, really, reallyinterestedii) This is a good opportunity to go on rounds, follow the housestaff,while not being the focus of attentioniii) It's also a great opportunity to get a feel for how you'll fit in herec) The program will try to put together a class that is cohesive and workswell with each otheri) Try to get a feel for your potential classmates since they will be theones you'll interact with a lotii) Showing signs of not wanting to be there or lack of interest or of notbeing a team player will probably hurt your chances</blockquote>

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