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Of course I am, I look to you guys for advice. My family lives in Southern Illinois and I do not know if Hopkins program is worth leaving home for.
I am not sure about this, it is so hard to choose. Do you guys have any advice? Both programs are stunning in their respective fields and the locations are comparable.
It really is not a matter or rankings or cost, because these two schools are very different. the real question is are you more oriented to clinical (SIU) or academic (JHU) medicine as a career. While SIU does offer opportunities for research, most of the projects aren't as presitigious as JHU, although there are some exceptions. If you are intersted in Plastics there is a doc who is nationally reknowned. And because SIU is a relatively small school he is extremely accessible for research during the summer and possibly throughout the year.
SIU is PBL, but it's nothing to shy away from if you've been in a traditional lecture format. There are pros and cons of both types of cirriculae and you can search SDN for a discussion of that sort.
ALSO, consider the cost of living in Baltimore. It's expensive and the area that the school is in is quite ghetto. SIU will afford a much better lifestyle. You won't be eating ramen noodles and mac and cheese, unless you decide to buy a projector system with a home theatre system. If you have questions about SIU PM me. Sometimes it sucks, other times I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Haha, I hope this thread keeps going purely for my own amusement. SIU is some garbage!!!!!!! Sorry, hate to offend. And Hopkins is AMAZING!!!!!!!! Haha, I love how people actually gave scenarios/reasons where/why you would pick SIU over Hopkins. Under absolutely NO circumstance would you pick SIU over Hopkins and yes, this even includes very extreme circumstances like various people having guns to heads and stuff like that
This gets the award for the craziest post that I have read recently.
First, you say that SIU provides BETTER clinical training than JHU? I'm not an expert, but JHU has what is almost unanimously considered to be the best hospital in the United States. I don't think that SIU can come close to JHU in most clinical areas, if any. JHU is pretty clearly superior in terms of both research and clinical training.
Second, the cost of living in Baltimore is high? It is one of the cheapest housing markets for a city in the United States. Along with WashU, JHU will have the lowest cost of living out of any of the top 10 schools. Baltimore is not expensive.
Of course, this will never happen to me because I'm not applying to JHU, but I definitely agree with the consensus: SIU is a solid medical school, but JHU is in a league of its own.
that's true, but as others have mentioned, jhu would be a total waste of money if you have no interest in an academic medical career and are planning on practicing in primary care or another relatively uncompetitive specialty.
Er... I agree about the academic medicine portion, but you do realize that SIU has residencies in gen surg, derm, rads, ortho, plastics, oto. And they tend to take their own students. Tell me those specialties aren't competitive
yeah, I echo the post above. I go to school in the Chicago area, and all my friends that want to stay in Chicago hope to get into Northwestern or U of C over UIC partly because UIC is known to be more difficult. I think the explanation for that is the reasoning you provided (MrBurns).
really? i've lived in chicago my whole life and am also a student here, and i can honestly say i've never heard anyone say that UIC is known to be a difficult school. the only reason i know that people don't want to go there is that their students tend to be unhappy.
yeah, what I meant to say is not that it's difficult to get in, but the way they teach, how hard they work their students. I definitely heard the curriculum is "harder" and not as laid back.I've also heard that UIC students are generally unhappy, but I think a lot of it comes from the curriculum and unresponsive administration. I don't think the school itself it know as "difficult" as in difficult to get into (as a U of I student, we generally tend to see UIC as somewhat of a backup school for Illinois residents).
Also, I've heard that the faculty at Hopkins are really smart and often leaders in their fields. To me, this means that they are horrible teachers and just want to make their students feel stupid. I would rather take Joe Shmoe professor at SIU then someone really smart.