How do you study!? I am frustrated!

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I am so F*#*$ up this quater. SO I SUCK AT SCIENCE! ARGH...I always am better at music and history and philosophy. BUT I WANT TO BE A DOCTOR SOO BAD...So far I've yet to taste any success in any science class, even that fricking astronomy I only have a B-. The A's have so far come from musical and communication theory classes! I just have not been able to get a decent grade (ANY decent grade, I will take a B for my chem and phys classes any day! Not even asking for A's!) in any scienece related classes. It is so frustrating! This maddness becomes more clear this week. I spend 8 hours to study for a chem test, 8 hours for a phys. And I screwed both of them up, scoring both below average. I am really really sick of feeling like a failure. I invested so much time and I gained so little! I could have spend those time doing stuffs I like! Would somebody please help me? GIVE me an idea how do you guys do it? How do you study?+pity+ +pity+
 
It sounds like you might be studying ineffectively and too much. Have you talked to the teachers in your classe? Asked them for advice and to help? You might want to also check out some sort of learning resource center at your school and see if they can help you figure out a study plan for how you learn best.

You could try different things. Study in groups if your an auditory learner or try making models of what your studying if you are a tactile learner, etc.

Just sitting with a book in front of you is very boring.
 
JoJo

I'm a year 2 osteo student.

For me, it's all about learning actively. I can't remember stuff unless I put it to use.

This is how I deal with my medical school lectures but I'm sure you could adapt this idea yourself.

1. I read the material once, every word, and try to understand it (If you're reading a chapter in a science book, it's probably best to break it into sections of about 30 minutes reading each. Don't try to read more than that at once).

2. Get a dry erase board & some markers.
Try to write down the major topics that you just read about. I use black marker. Now under each topic, start writing as many little facts as you can remember. Give yourself about 5 minutes to do this.

3. Now look back at your book or your notes, and see what you forgot. Especially pay attention to the major concepts/headings to begin with. Write those facts down in a different color--I use red.

Do this 2 or 3 times on different days until you have the material more-or-less memorized. Very doable, since it only takes 15 minutes or so after the initial reading.

Now this exact method may not work for every subject, but I think you can see the concept: Read, recall, reread what you missed, and repeat. The KEY IS RECALL. How can you expect to recall on the test what you could not recall with your materials in front of you? You can't!!

I have found this method to be far better than highlighting and notecards put together--and it's so much faster.

NOTE: You won't like doing this at first. It's uncomfortable because you won't be used to learning this way. Give this a serious try, and I'll bet you'll be learning more in 15 minutes than you ever did after three hours of staring at a book with a highlighter in one hand and a cup O coffee in the other.

Tata
 
Do you use a big dry erase board. Just wondering. I thought about buying one of those huge ones that they use in lecture halls. I never tried that method but it sounds good.

Raptor5
PCOM Class of 2008
 
The board I use is about 1.5' by 2'

I like it to be big, but small enough that I can set it down on my desk and not have to hang it on the wall.

The great thing about the method is the first time, you'll have to look back for the major headings (which isn't a big deal), but it makes you realize that even the huge, simple concepts that are a must-learn don't come to you as easy as you think. The second time you do it, you remember so much more. Even if you do go back to look at something in the notes, many times just looking at the heading will jog your memory and you'll remember many more facts instantaneously.
 
I have never really been a "science and math" person either but so far I am doing pretty good! English and subjects like that come pretty easy to me and easy A's, but I think for most people sciences, no matter how smart you are- you just have to study them a lot more than English Lit!! Well there is one guy in my class who seems to never study and makes A's, but most people are not like as easily smart as him 😉

I think you need to figure out *how* you learn. I am an auditory learner and just don't "get" things unless I hear it. So (and this might sound crazy but it works for me) I read my books outloud, and I also record my lectures to listen to them one more time. It really helps me a lot and my grades have vastly improved after doing that. Also before a test I read all my notes on the main topics, etc into my recorder and listed to it 2 or 3 times throughout the day (even when the kids are up and Im washing dishes I will just find time to listen to it).

Also, after I read a paragraph, I will rewrite the main point in my own words...helps me remember what the main point even was and putting into my own words really helps me to "get it".

There is a book that really helped me, it ws called You are Smarter Than you Think by Master. I got it off amazon, it came highly recommended to me and it has *really* helped me out!

Good luck!! You know you are smart, your probably just not studying effectivly.

Marilyn
 
Originally posted by Goofyone

I like it to be big, but small enough that I can set it down on my desk and not have to hang it on the wall.


That's what she said!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Your idea of writing the concepts down soon after reading is great! I used a similar method when preparing for the MCAT, and it really helped me to do well. Instead of writing things down, I tried to explain it to a friend (helps if they're studying the same thing!). After a while, you start thinking in terms of flowcharts, with broader concepts being defined by more specific details and so on, until you can tell a story about an entire mechanism. This was especially useful for studying physiology and biochemistry.

I think a combination of writing the material down soon after learning it and reciting it to a study partner would be a highly effective approach to learning complicated information.

Someone should study the neural correlates of learning scientific material!
 
I think you all offered some really good study strategies. I start medical school in the fall. I will definetly try one of those suggest methods. Hope it helps me.
 
It really depends on what subject and material you are trying to study for. I am a big fan of animations especially for things like embryonic development or genetics things. You can find nice little animations on subjects by doing searches on the internet or in the CD's that come with the books. I am a very techno type person and i think that too many people ignore the CD that comes with textbooks. These things are usually pretty good with main points and ideas from the book outlined and many have options such as practice tests and the afore mentioned animations. This is often a good starting point for me. After i do that stuff i do something similar to the dry erase board thing. Another thing i have found extremely useful for those labs where you have to remember what things look like (eg embryology, anatomy, zoology, and micro) you can use power point to make sort of a quiz for yourself. For example i am currently studying for a zoology course where i have to be able to identify like 60 fish. I took pictures of the fish on my digital camera and made a powerpoint with the picture and the names of the fish. I made the names come up after i hit a button so that i could answer before i saw what it really was.
 
Ya I agree with the CD that come with our books, some are so good and no one ever uses them it seems!!

Also a lot of publishers have online sites as well with extra quizzes, etc that go along with the book.

Marilyn
 
right on, everyone.

when i read a chapter for the first time, i highlight. then as i go back and review, i summarize everything i highlighted in the chapter, and i also summarize my class notes as well. i tend to write everything the teacher says, and alot of it is unecessary. i use alot of abbreviations too, if someone else were to read my notes, they wouldnt think it was english. it helps me to write alot faster. i record some lectures (i only had to do this for cell bio and zoology) and go back and listen to see what i missed. its alot easier to understand things when you write them yourself. i like to review my own summarized notes 3 times for an exam.
sometimes i make outlines, with headings and list the facts underneath. it really depends on the class and the type of information they give you. that works well for facts but not as well for concepts.
i had difficulties too when i first started college. part of it had to do with me being lazy and taking full advantage of my independence.. but it also had alot to do with my study habits. i did not study one ounce in high school, and did awesome, im talking like 95+ in every class and regents. so i never imagined how much i would have to study in college. once i turned it around, i just read everything and overloaded my brain with information, and i quickly realized what techniques worked for me and what didnt. its really all trial and error.
and dont be afraid to ask for help... it took me a long time to get over that pride. good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Goofyone, your methone seems really good. I have one question though.

For the step 1 "inirial readin," do you take notes as you read? or highlight as you do this?
 
You said 8hrs of sudying what did you do for the rest of the course before the exam?
 
Originally posted by spoodle
Goofyone, your methone seems really good. I have one question though.

For the step 1 "inirial readin," do you take notes as you read? or highlight as you do this?

For me, highlighting has always been the least effective method of learning. You're not challenging yourself by doing it. Now I only highlight obscure facts to make them easier to find.

Making an outline gives you a good overview of what you need to learn, but you're not recalling much when you do it. I make outlines on large topics. The point of doing it is just to be able to keep my place--so I don't get lost in details and forget WHAT I'm learning about! If it's more than a page long, it's way too detailed for my purposes.

Taking notes, on the other hand, is a form of recall (because you have to remember some of the info long enough to transcribe it from one piece of paper to the other). It works, but it's very time consuming--time that you'll find out you just don't have in medical school. It's also very inefficient. Think about it: why write down something that's already been written down once? Wasteful. The truth is that most of the forms of studying that I've ever used have been more of a tool of procrastination than anything. I'd spend hours highlighting text and taking notes, and not comprehending anything. Then, a night or two before the test, all of my work went right out the window as I went through everything AGAIN, picking out the most important facts to memorize. Then I'd ace the test, not because of my highlighting or note-taking, but because of the cramming. Then two days later I'd know nothing again.

I think that my method takes the good aspects of cramming (taking the "meat" of the lecture and memorizing it quickly), and through repetition, you reinforce what you knew and pick up new stuff each time. The point of my method is that I can bypass all of those procrastinating behaviors and get to MEMORIZING quickly.

The heart of my system is to RECALL. Whether that's writing things out in shorthand on a whiteboard, trying to explain things in a study group, or drawing pictures and diagrams (my personal favorite), the point is to get yourself to recall the info. This is how you will recognize what you DO know, and what you DON'T. Then, you focus on memorizing what you DON'T. Very simple.

If it seems hard or uncomfortable that's because you're challenging yourself. That's good! If you're not challenging yourself, you're probably not learning much.

Hope that answers your question.
 
Originally posted by Goofyone

Hope that answers your question. [/B]

Your are definately right about recalling. Thanks, Goofyone!
 
Wow, thanks for all the advice. Anyway, I am having another science midterm soon, 2 days later, wish me luck....😡 <---determined
 
Talk to your classmates/develop friendships.

Friendly competition is a huge motivator for me.

-NS
 
i rewrite almost every single lecture either word for word, or into my own words. very time consuming, so you have to have good time management skills. and when i come back to key concepts that are repeated, i rewrite everything i know about them all over again... i have killed more trees in the first year of medical school than i have in my entire scholastic career. it works for me though, recall on the stuff is amazing, and rewriting the stuff into your own words can really help you understand it (you can come to test questions and mentally pull the answer from the notes, they stick in your head, its really weird). plus if you challenge yourself to write out everything you know about a certain subject, it forces you to put it into a coherent train of thought and piece the puzzle you are working on together... kinda like being able to teach it to someone else. like i said, its time consuming, but it really really works.

Ratch
MSU-COM2007
 
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