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I am interested in doing emt, but i don't think i have time for it. However, i just noticed that there's a ridiculous amount of people doing EMT and racking up a thousand hours while most other students have volunteered one hundred hours or so. i realize that emt is a paid job. i will not be doing emt just to make myself look good despite my interest in it due to lack of time, but i was wondering what adcoms think about those thousand hours by emt students. thnx
 

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I am interested in doing emt, but i don't think i have time for it. However, i just noticed that there's a ridiculous amount of people doing EMT and racking up a thousand hours while most other students have volunteered one hundred hours or so. i realize that emt is a paid job. i will not be doing emt just to make myself look good despite my interest in it due to lack of time, but i was wondering what adcoms think about those thousand hours by emt students. thnx
No, for a few reasons

1) It become a fashion a few years ago for premeds to earn an EMT as a quick EC without doing anything else so it really has lost its any value by adcoms
2) EMTs have mostly, a limited, non-hospital, non-physician observing clinical experience in that role
3) Hospital volunteering/paid clinical experience can be seen as much more to have both patient interaction and physician observation
4) The few students who work with thousands of hours may be including all of the shift time and many have jobs that are viewed as medical taxis by adcoms

The value of EMT really goes to those who have lengthy experience in paid or volunteer, get leadership positions in a volunteer organization such an ambulance corps, or use it as a stepping stone to advanced certifications, trauma tech, and ER or similar work
 
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No, for a few reasons

1) It become a fashion a few years ago for premeds to earn an EMT as a quick EC without doing anything else so it really has lost its any value by adcoms
2) EMTs have mostly, a limited, non-hospital, non-physician observing clinical experience in that role
3) Hospital volunteering/paid clinical experience can be seen as much more to have both patient interaction and physician observation
4) The few students who work with thousands of hours may be including all of the shift time and many have jobs that are viewed as medical taxis by adcoms

The value of EMT really goes to those who have lengthy experience in paid or volunteer, get leadership positions in a volunteer organization such an ambulance corps, or use it as a stepping stone to advanced certifications, trauma tech, and ER or similar work
thnx 4 ur input. i honestly felt that so many premeds at specific colleges are so obsessed about doing emt b/c it is "paid" and they get so many hours from it. i was just starting to wonder if those who volunteer will be overlooked b/c those emt ppl have 3000 hours or something.
thnx again and i aprreciate any other inpuot!
 

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Many Adcoms consider EMT-B to be nothing more than a glorified taxi driver.

I am interested in doing emt, but i don't think i have time for it. However, i just noticed that there's a ridiculous amount of people doing EMT and racking up a thousand hours while most other students have volunteered one hundred hours or so. i realize that emt is a paid job. i will not be doing emt just to make myself look good despite my interest in it due to lack of time, but i was wondering what adcoms think about those thousand hours by emt students. thnx
 

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thnx 4 ur input. i honestly felt that so many premeds at specific colleges are so obsessed about doing emt b/c it is "paid" and they get so many hours from it. i was just starting to wonder if those who volunteer will be overlooked b/c those emt ppl have 3000 hours or something.
thnx again and i aprreciate any other inpuot!
The advantage of EMT though is you can get paid work. In addition to a regular transport job, seasonal work like in state parks or beaches in the summer or occasional event work similar to security at a concert. Not perhaps vital for medical school, but saying your worked the first aid squad at a state park for a summer or two is a decent and not common EC. BTW, I had classmates many years ago who worked EMT at Yankee Stadium one summer.
 
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The advantage of EMT though is you can get paid work. In addition to a regular transport job, seasonal work like in state parks or beaches in the summer or occasional event work similar to security at a concert. Not perhaps vital for medical school, but saying your worked the first aid squad at a state park for a summer or two is a decent and not common EC. BTW, I had classmates many years ago who worked EMT at Yankee Stadium one summer.
wow that is very cool. thnx 4 the story!
 

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Most students who are EMTs usually ride with the local/college squads and are not paid. There is a difference between EMTs who work for private ambulance transport companies and EMTs who work for the local squads. EMTs at the local squads are usually unpaid (because the squads usually pay for a day crew to be on whereas students usually are only able to staff the nights) whereas EMTs at the transport companies are paid. The difference is that EMTs that work for private transport companies usually are poorly equipped to deal with true emergencies because they mainly just do inter-facility transports and usually do not respond to 911 calls. As with anything, there are exceptions though.
 
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wow that is very cool. thnx 4 the story!
You should start practicing typing in complete sentences and using full words, it makes you seem uneducated when you abbreviate words and substitute in numbers for letters. Maybe its just me, but unnecessary abbreviations and using numbers substituted for words bothers the hell out of me.
 
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You should start practicing typing in complete sentences and using full words, it makes you seem uneducated when you abbreviate words and substitute in numbers for letters. Maybe its just me, but unnecessary abbreviations and using numbers substituted for words bothers the hell out of me.
i apologize! i will practice soon and write in complete sentences l8r. sorry bout that
 

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You should start practicing typing in complete sentences and using full words, it makes you seem uneducated when you abbreviate words and substitute in numbers for letters. Maybe its just me, but unnecessary abbreviations and using numbers substituted for words bothers the hell out of me.
l8r. sorry bout that
I love this forum.
 

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Many Adcoms consider EMT-B to be nothing more than a glorified taxi driver.
I must take a minor exception with my esteemed colleague from west of St. Louis and remind him in a paraphrase of my beloved missus, it isnt the size of the certification but what you do with it that counts.

Getting an EMT-B is worthless without experience, especially on a volunteer squad to back it up
 
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I must take a minor exception with my esteemed colleague from west of St. Louis and remind him in a paraphrase of my beloved missus, it isnt the size of the certification but what you do with it that counts.

Getting an EMT-B is worthless without experience, especially on a volunteer squad to back it up
tru. i agree with u! thnx
 

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I disagree. I think that having experience as an EMT was very useful for patient contact. As long as you plan on working as an EMT after you get certified, I'd say go for it! I wrote about it as one of my most important activities and have 5 IIs at good schools.
 
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I disagree. I think that having experience as an EMT was very useful for patient contact. As long as you plan on working as an EMT after you get certified, I'd say go for it! I wrote about it as one of my most important activities and have 5 IIs at good schools.
wow thnx! congrats on ur aceptencez!
 

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Not to derail the thread, but is an ER tech position on an app thought of highly by adcoms? I chose that over EMT due to being in the hospital. I do any and all phlebotomy, Foley insertion and removal, EKGs, irrigate lacerations with and sometimes without the assistance of nurses/physician, CPR if anyone codes, and then the normal clean the patient and keep them comfortable type stuff. 2000+ hours on my app.
 
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Not to derail the thread, but is an ER tech position on an app thought of highly by adcoms? I chose that over EMT due to being in the hospital. I do any and all phlebotomy, Foley insertion and removal, EKGs, irrigate lacerations with and sometimes without the assistance of nurses/physician, CPR if anyone codes, and then the normal clean the patient and keep them comfortable type stuff. 2000+ hours on my app.
It's good experience.
 
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Not to derail the thread, but is an ER tech position on an app thought of highly by adcoms? I chose that over EMT due to being in the hospital. I do any and all phlebotomy, Foley insertion and removal, EKGs, irrigate lacerations with and sometimes without the assistance of nurses/physician, CPR if anyone codes, and then the normal clean the patient and keep them comfortable type stuff. 2000+ hours on my app.
wowwww tht's cool!!. thnx for sharing ur experience! plz someone/adcom share their onion on this post! thnx yall again
 
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Very thought provoking content from you.
thnx 4 ur compliment! if that was a sarcastic comment tho, i'd just like to say that those random "r" "y" "hi" posts r bc i posted sthing impotent to me but it became irrelevant so edited to remove content bc their was no way 2 delete the threads
 

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Not to derail the thread, but is an ER tech position on an app thought of highly by adcoms? I chose that over EMT due to being in the hospital. I do any and all phlebotomy, Foley insertion and removal, EKGs, irrigate lacerations with and sometimes without the assistance of nurses/physician, CPR if anyone codes, and then the normal clean the patient and keep them comfortable type stuff. 2000+ hours on my app.
It's good experience.
Again, its the experience, not the letters that matter. The issue with EMT is so many applicants get the certification and then dont do much with it
 
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Again, its the experience, not the letters that matter. The issue with EMT is so many applicants get the certification and then dont do much with it
wow thnx! i agree w/ u 2. i think if i got emt cert 2, i prob wont have time 2 do much w/ it
 

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thnx 4 ur compliment! if that was a sarcastic comment tho, i'd just like to say that those random "r" "y" "hi" posts r bc i posted sthing impotent to me but it became irrelevant so edited to remove content bc their was no way 2 delete the threads
Do tell this story of impotence.

But really it was a thread about converting to the best religion for pre-med.
 

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I just got my AEMT, and working on my Intermediate (just below a medic, ACLS etc...). I volunteer at a all volunteer fire dept, running anywhere between 4-5 calls a week, and most of the time being the only pre-hospital provider. The experience I've had doing this in my opinion is second to none, I am actually in charge of life saving decisions, unsupervised on my own (Strokes, MVAs, Full codes, allergic reactions, drownings, ODs). I don't think any other volunteer/shadowing experience can top the things I get to do on the ambulance.
 

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I just got my AEMT, and working on my Intermediate (just below a medic, ACLS etc...). I volunteer at a all volunteer fire dept, running anywhere between 4-5 calls a week, and most of the time being the only pre-hospital provider. The experience I've had doing this in my opinion is second to none, I am actually in charge of life saving decisions, unsupervised on my own (Strokes, MVAs, Full codes, allergic reactions, drownings, ODs). I don't think any other volunteer/shadowing experience can top the things I get to do on the ambulance.
The issue for an adcom here is that you arent shadowing other providers most of the time and it is a narrow view of usually critical emergency care. While the volunteer, the work, and the clinical/healthcare experience and very high quality and solid, adding some other direct physician shadowing in other areas may be useful.

This is from someone who worked his way thru college first as on a VAC and then ER tech in ED and Mobile ICU