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I have a GPA of 3.2 and have not taken mcat yet how hard is it to get into DO? should I do special masters program first?
I have a GPA of 3.2 and have not taken mcat yet how hard is it to get into DO? should I do special masters program first?
A 24 should get you into a school like LMU ACOM or LUCOM, but if you want to be competitive for most schools I would shoot for 30+.so 28 plus is good for california too for DO
3.2/24 while it may get you in somewhere, probably isn't going to be all that competitive.A 24 will get you in if you apply broadly and early
Retakes 4-5 classes maybe at a CC that have the same # of credit (or higher). That will bring up your GPA to 3.4+ if you get As on them. 25+ MCAT will get you somewhere with your current GPA.is there any way I can retake classes with C to boost GPA
Not should. Might.A 24 should get you into a school like LMU ACOM or LUCOM, but if you want to be competitive for most schools I would shoot for 30+.
Unfortunately they are the exception--because the bulk of lower stat applicants fail to apply broadly, early, and to the right schools.Not should. Might.
Raise the gpa. DO isn't the cakewalk people on here allude to, and the 3.1/23's that matriculate are the exception and not the rule. Good luck.
If your University allows that. Some schools don't if you already passed the class, but you can always retake at a school nearby or a CC. The DO grade replacement have helped many. Take advantage of it. Your GPA is not atrocious for DO, but it could be better.I have a lot of Cs but i haven't failed any classes so will I be able to retake the classes again? is that possible?
I have a lot of Cs but i haven't failed any classes so will I be able to retake the classes again? is that possible?
Retakes 4-5 classes maybe at a CC that have the same # of credit (or higher). That will bring up your GPA to 3.4+ if you get As on them. 25+ MCAT will get you somewhere with your current GPA.
Do your research. You can retake classes at another institution if yours has a limit on what grade attained and retake eligibility. You won't be competitive with a 3.2 24, but likely would get in somewhere if the test of your application is up to snuff. Apply early and broadly. Also maybe reconsider if you are applying DO because you want to be a DO or because you just want to be a doctor. You will get asked about the osteopathic philosophy and why you specifically want to be an osteopathic physician.
If your University allows that. Some schools don't if you already passed the class, but you can always retake at a school nearby or a CC. The DO grade replacement have helped many. Take advantage of it. Your GPA is not atrocious for DO, but it could be better.
You should check with UCLA first, and if not possible, then retake at UCD or UCB. Make sure the classes have the same # of credits or higher. Good Luck...I graduated from UCLA so is it ok to retake classes at UCD or UCB, do i have to make sure with UCLA first
Unfortunately they are the exception--because the bulk of lower stat applicants fail to apply broadly, early, and to the right schools.
3.2/3.2/24 + early, broad application = solid chance of acceptance
Someone with 3.3/22 for example, has received interviews from WVSOM and LUCOM. They've been accepted to WVSOM so far
Unfortunately they are the exception--because the bulk of lower stat applicants fail to apply broadly, early, and to the right schools.
3.2/3.2/24 + early, broad application = solid chance of acceptance
Someone with 3.3/22 for example, has received interviews from WVSOM and LUCOM. They've been accepted to WVSOM so far
You tend to be a very optimistic poster on SDN but when would you say is the end of the "early window" of applying time wise?
You are way too optimistic IMO. 3.2/24 is swimming against the current and I doubt someone's acceptance will depend all on app logistics (early/broadly,etc). The ones that do get in with those stats prob did apply early,etc AND have other compelling stories. they must be extraordinary in some way for a particular school.Unfortunately they are the exception--because the bulk of lower stat applicants fail to apply broadly, early, and to the right schools.
3.2/3.2/24 + early, broad application = solid chance of acceptance
Someone with 3.3/22 for example, has received interviews from WVSOM and LUCOM. They've been accepted to WVSOM so far
A 24 should get you into a school like LMU ACOM or LUCOM, but if you want to be competitive for most schools I would shoot for 30+.
Not true. There is a wide spectrum of competitiveness of DO schools. The lowest tier tend to have an "acceptable" range down to around 3.0/3.0/24, often lower (LUCOM, for example will probably accept a good chunk of people with even less than this).You are way too optimistic IMO. 3.2/24 is swimming against the current and I doubt someone's acceptance will depend all on app logistics (early/broadly,etc). The ones that do get in with those stats prob did apply early,etc AND have other compelling stories. they must be extraordinary in some way for a particular school.
Call or email LMU and ask for a status check. Many people have gotten ii's by doing thisLMU has an average MCAT of 26 and it's only going to get higher. I have a 3.6/27 and LMU hasn't even responded to me yet. I've been complete for almost 3 months.
Now you're left with 2 schools out of 30+ that MIGHT find a 24 competitive.
To be competitive these days you want a 27-29. A 30+ would allow you to go where ever you want.
A friend of mine got in with a 2.9 cgpa/3.0sgpa. He had a 35 MCAT. So all in all, just go destroy the MCAT and see where you stand after. And a 3.2 gpa for a DO applicant isn't that low. I've seen many kids get in within the 3.0-3.5 range.I have a GPA of 3.2 and have not taken mcat yet how hard is it to get into DO? should I do special masters program first?
I know of two, personally. My best friends fiancé applied to all but two DO schools with a 3.1/3.1/24 and has received zero interview invites. And I doubt he gets any, unfortunately. I have 7 ii so far with upper-average stats, and the vast majority of applicants I've met on the interview trail have been very impressive individuals with significantly better stats than me.Not true. There is a wide spectrum of competitiveness of DO schools. The lowest tier tend to have an "acceptable" range down to around 3.0/3.0/24, often lower (LUCOM, for example will probably accept a good chunk of people with even less than this).
But I'll put my money where my mouth is. Find me someone with 3.00+/3.00+/24 that applied broadly and early but failed to get in.
I would imagine the decision to interview at LMU is made before the phone call. They dont interview all that many people. With that said they have been advising people to check back mid January for status updates given the holidays.Call or email LMU and ask for a status check. Many people have gotten ii's by doing this
Try a 28+ if you don't want to potentially waste a lot of money
I graduated from UCLA so is it ok to retake classes at UCD or UCB, do i have to make sure with UCLA first
Call or email LMU and ask for a status check. Many people have gotten ii's by doing this
so 28 plus is good for california too for DO
Not true. There is a wide spectrum of competitiveness of DO schools. The lowest tier tend to have an "acceptable" range down to around 3.0/3.0/24, often lower (LUCOM, for example will probably accept a good chunk of people with even less than this).
But I'll put my money where my mouth is. Find me someone with 3.00+/3.00+/24 that applied broadly and early but failed to get in.
possible...assuming OP has good extra curriculars, demonstrates knowledge and passion for osteopathic medicine, has good letters of rec, and interviews well. if any of those pieces are glaringly missing, then i wouldn't bet on he/she getting in anywhere. it's amazing how much of a barrier the interview can be for some applicants. some people just don't have the charm or charisma when the red light is onOk... OP has a 3.2 GPA now... Would people agree that OP would most likely got in somewhere with a 25 MCAT if apply early to schools like ACOM, LMU, LUCOM, PCOM-GA, SOMA, CUSOM, WVSOM, WCUCOM, KYCOM? I happen to think OP would.....
I graduated from UCLA, myself; I'm now attending graduate school at UCD. I looked into course repeats and transferability between the two schools, and retakes of UCLA coursework at UCD/UCB are not possible for AACOMAS. The course descriptions (and course names) do not match at these schools, so repeats of even 90%+ similar courses will not count as de facto course repeats. Feel free to check with AACOM, yourself.
You should know that the UCLA extension in downtown Westwood is where you have to go for things like this.
I'm hoping that you weren't one of the students that sat in the back of the class (when you bothered to show up), complained about how competitive it was all the time, etc etc. I knew a lot of people like that. Your writing style and laziness/lack of knowledge about basic procedures like this tells me that you were.
Did that person apply to LUCOM? I would imagine they have a good chance thereI know of two, personally. My best friends fiancé applied to all but two DO schools with a 3.1/3.1/24 and has received zero interview invites. And I doubt he gets any, unfortunately. I have 7 ii so far with upper-average stats, and the vast majority of applicants I've met on the interview trail have been very impressive individuals with significantly better stats than me.
Now that I've been through a cycle, I would absolutely recommend that an applicant should have a gpa no lower than 3.4 and at least a 26. Lower than that and your numbers become somewhat of a liability.
Of course, many people get in with lesser numbers. I've spent thousands this application cycle, and so would someone with sub par stats having to apply "broadly". It becomes incredibly risky. But with a 3.4 and 26 I can almost guarantee an acceptance if you're a well rounded person.
FWIW, dreamcatcher got into LMU with 3.0 sgpa and 24 mcat
IW little to no valueFWIW, dreamcatcher got into LMU with 3.0 sgpa and 24 mcat
I beg to differ... The application has to be average IMO.possible...assuming OP has good extra curriculars, demonstrates knowledge and passion for osteopathic medicine, has good letters of rec, and interviews well. if any of those pieces are glaringly missing, then i wouldn't bet on he/she getting in anywhere. it's amazing how much of a barrier the interview can be for some applicants. some people just don't have the charm or charisma when the red light is on
well that's, like, your opinion man...I beg to differ... The application has to be average IMO.
Regarding DO and average PhD program entrance, IMO I don't think it's the same difficulty at all. DO being more time consuming, and more difficult.As for the main topic of this thread, I happen to think the difficulty of getting into a DO school is about the same as getting into an average PhD program or an average to upper Dental School/Pharm School. I know you guys may disagree, but take a step back for a second and think about it. It isn't just a fractions game with 5000 applicants --> 600 interviews --> 400 acceptances. First off, a LOT of people turn down interviews and a LOT of people don't fill out the secondary. You'd be surprised how many random kids just throw out their AACOMAS app. Second, a 25 on the MCAT is around 50 percentile, meaning the average kid who even sits down to take the MCAT has a good chance at getting into DO programs. No one can say for sure, but I would like to think getting a 50 percentile on the MCAT is not much more difficult than getting 75 percentile on say the GRE or the DAT. It couldn't be that much of a discrepancy and I know premeds on here seem to advocate that the MCAT is the hardest professional school entrance exam out there.
I don't even have to go there with average GPAs, the numbers are all out there PLUS, DO's calculate retakes, which makes it even EASIER for admittance. I firmly believe ANYONE can get into a DO school if they really put in the time and effort. I cannot say the same about MD schools.
Looking back, with 3.6+ and 25 do you really feel like you were an UD? I mean, you scored 9 interviews and got into a solid schoolOh my god who the hell cares?