How long did you take you to find your first job?

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  1. rxglasshalffull

    rxglasshalffull 2+ Year Member

    May 30, 2013
    We all know the market sucks these days, especially in saturated area. How long did it take you to find your first job? And where is your first job? Rural American, saturated metropolitan area, etc?
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2014
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  3. cnicolef08

    cnicolef08 5+ Year Member

    Apr 3, 2011
    Hired about 2-3 weeks before graduation (june 2012), started applying in April though
    Work at a small 250-bed community hospital in rural southwest GA
  4. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    Copy/paste from the PGY1 thread last year:
    Area = SF Bay Area. Employed immediately after PGY1 - July 2013.

    Here's my final tally, started sending out applications January 2013.

    55 = total applications submitted & CV's delivered via network
    10 = total # of interviews/offers for interviews/contact initiated by institution
    (phone, in-person, e-mail)
    2 = total # of interviews declined prior to interview
    8 = in-person/phone interviews
    3 = did not get position (assumed if no further contact)
    1 = still technically pending
    4 = offers tendered
    2 = offers declined
    2 = offers accepted

    Overall yield (interview/contact : total applications) = 18% response rate
    Yield from direct networking (5 contacts : 5 interviews) = 100% response rate
    Yield from internet only applications (50 applications : 5 interviews) = 10% response rate

    Offers tendered resulted from: 3/4 = direct networking; 1/4 = internet application

    Other anecdotal notes:
    1) All 3 rejections were, in sequence, my first, second, and third interviews.
    2) First application was released January 12, actual first contact from an employer or agent was April 26.
  5. mustang sally

    mustang sally 10+ Year Member

    Feb 22, 2007
    The middle of nowhere
    Didn't match to residency and had no backup plan with minimal intern experience. Started applying as soon as I was finished with scrambling (so probably beginning of April?).

    Went on three job interviews, the third was a week after my graduation. The hospital called a few days after the interview and offered me the position which I'm still at to this day.

    Rural America…confessions of a 2012 graduate
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  6. 297point1

    297point1 Searching for Sunshine 7+ Year Member

    Match rates published by ASHP are only so useful. I'm going to be showing these numbers to final year students in my program; some are a little more confident about their prospects than they should be. THANK YOU.
  7. msweph

    msweph 2+ Year Member

    Jun 27, 2013
    I applied to many jobs-- all before licensed-- heard back from very few. Had 3 interviews. 2 hospital one retail ( back up). Was offered the job I accepted March before graduation.
  8. Dred Pirate

    Dred Pirate 2+ Year Member

    Jan 18, 2014
    Damn I was lucky

    first job 2004- applied to 5 places (retail/industry)
    received 5 offers - medium size midwest city - had job offer in hand 3 months prior to graduation

    Last time around - major metro area in southeast
    Applied to 5 retail pharmacies
    received offers from all 5
    Applied to 5 hospitals
    Interviewed at 4
    Received offers from 4
  9. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    They have a right to be confident if their network is excellent, or that their network actually perceives them to be strong candidates (you won't believe how many students come through and talk about their network, but their work ethic/performance says otherwise).

    Otherwise.... creek, meet boat, no paddle.
  10. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    As I pretty much said in another thread... 2004 might as well be 1985, and you're Marty McFly with a DeLorean listening to Huey Lewis and the News.
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  11. wagrxm2000

    wagrxm2000 2+ Year Member

    Sep 17, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2016
  12. Dred Pirate

    Dred Pirate 2+ Year Member

    Jan 18, 2014
    I agree completely (although the "last time around was 08), it is just depressing to think about it, I am only 25% through my career (worked 10 and 30 more to go)
  13. stark3

    stark3 2+ Year Member

    Jul 29, 2012
    What kind of jobs were these? Completely staffing jobs, hybrid staffing-clinical, or pure clinical?
  14. msweph

    msweph 2+ Year Member

    Jun 27, 2013
    Staff for both mine. Convert to clinical Tho after experience there.
  15. stark3

    stark3 2+ Year Member

    Jul 29, 2012
    Does converting to clinical happen for everyone? Or are there places where you start as staff and end up stuck there?
  16. msweph

    msweph 2+ Year Member

    Jun 27, 2013
  17. PumpkinSmasher

    PumpkinSmasher Pharmacist 7+ Year Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    From my experience, the majority of staff does not convert to clinical. The purely clinically jobs go to those with years of experience in that area or residency training.
  18. kendrick lamar

    kendrick lamar 2+ Year Member

    Jul 2, 2013
    Did you go back after you graduated to do a residency? idk y i thought you graduated in 2004 lol
  19. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    Nope went straight to PGY-1. I had an inpatient offer on the east coast prior to graduation, but took a chance and went back to California.

    I literally certified my match card with a few hours to spare, haha.
  20. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    A mix of hybrid-clinical and pure clinical -- in California, very rarely are there "pure staffing" jobs available, pretty much every job posted has a "clinical" component. In fact, "staffing" and "clinical" are kind of anachronisms in the state. (Almost) every job is clinical now, with a "staffing" portion built in to the job description.
  21. PhoenixFire

    PhoenixFire 5+ Year Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Could you also please tell whether you had paid internship before you graduated and whether you're employed by the same chain/place?
  22. pharmacy7424

    pharmacy7424 Banned Banned

    Mar 24, 2011
    This is a problem with pharmacy schools. There is nothing wrong with being "stuck" as a staff pharmacist. The staff pharmacist is essential for operating the pharmacy, and ultimately, filling the needs of the pharmacy department. The "clinical people" would not exist/function without well trained, experienced staff pharmacists. You should be so lucky.
  23. rph3664

    rph3664 5+ Year Member

    Jul 4, 2010
    So, how would you define 1994? That's when my employer promoted me directly from technician to pharmacist.
  24. Maruko

    Maruko 7+ Year Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    would like to know whether the jobs are FT/PT and location
  25. CYP3A4

    CYP3A4 P450 7+ Year Member

    Apr 19, 2008
    Miami, FL
    I graduated in September 2009. I applied at 4 places and was offered employment at all 4.
    1. CVS far northern Chicago burbs
    2. Walgreens rural Illinois
    3. Small 150 bed hospital far northern Chicago burbs
    4. 450 bed trauma center 60 miles north of Miami,FL

    I accepted the trauma center position. I felt fortunate to get into a place like that directly out of school. I guess they liked me enough in the interview. lol. They were willing to wait for me to get licensed and what not. Hired in September, started in November. After being out in the work force a year I began to realize it was all about networking and getting real life experience that would determine how far I went!
  26. streetpreacher

    streetpreacher Boss 5+ Year Member

    Sep 16, 2010
    Graduated in 2010. Accepted a position as a clinical pharmacist to begin after I graduated when I was on my second rotation. Most people in my class had plans prior to graduation as far as where they were going to work. I don't think anyone waited any longer than maybe a week or two before they knew where they were headed after graduating.

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