syn_apse, i examined the tables. amazing, the type of info one can get from these data. it kinda made me feel good that guys are generally doing better than girls on the DAT. the country is all about advancing women, feminism, recruiting women, breast cancer, abuse...etc....high school curricula have been emasculated.....nothing for the men. so it was nice to see us kick butt on the DAT. however, i also felt bad for natives and blacks. they have th elowest scores across the board.