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figured it out on my own, sorry
At my school, more in the 25-30 range. There are a lot more people than that on the adcom, but that's about how many of us show up to any given meeting to vote.I know a lot of faculty interview applicants at schools, but I'm curious about when it comes down to it, the down and dirty, how many people are truly involved in the vote? 5,10,15 or more?????
I don't know what you're referring to here. But if you're talking about the SDN administrators, don't violate the TOS rules you agreed to when you joined the site, and you'll be fine.PS: I didn't mean to anger the administrators earlier I'm really very timid and if I'm not playing by the rules, I'll go away real fast
At my school, more in the 25-30 range. There are a lot more people than that on the adcom, but that's about how many of us show up to any given meeting to vote.
I can't imagine it'd be that many people voting on each applicant - that would mean 25 people had to familiarize themselves with each student. I'd guess your admissions fate usually comes down to one person looking it over and maybe bringing it up in a meeting if they're borderline on you or to make sure noone objects to their decision.
At this school at least, I'm afraid my experience is a better description of reality than your imagination is.I can't imagine it'd be that many people voting on each applicant - that would mean 25 people had to familiarize themselves with each student. I'd guess your admissions fate usually comes down to one person looking it over and maybe bringing it up in a meeting if they're borderline on you or to make sure noone objects to their decision.
At this school at least, I'm afraid my experience is a better description of reality than your imagination is.
But all kidding aside, you're right that not every adcom reviews every application equally thoroughly. All of us have access to the students' AMCAS and secondary essays, and we all can skim through all of the apps. Faculty interviewers usually read the app thoroughly before they interview a student, while student interviewers who are also adcoms do not read the app until afterward. (Not all interviewers are adcoms, especially student interviewers.)
After the interview, every interviewer fills out a form describing their impressions and gives a recommendation to the adcom. Both student and faculty interviewers do this, regardless of whether they are actually on the adcom or not. If the interviewer is an adcom and is at the meeting, they present the students they interviewed. If they're not present or it was a non-adcom interviewer, someone else reads their comments and recommendation to the rest of the committee. All adcoms who are present vote on every application up for decision during that meeting. So there are 25-30 people voting on each application, not just the interviewers. Often we choose to follow the interviewers' recommendation, especially if they all agree, while other times we don't for various reasons.
As others have pointed out, different schools do things differently, and I'm not meaning to suggest that every school works the way mine does. But FWIW, this is how we do things here.
What would be a typical reason why you wouldn't follow the interviewers' recommendations?
I'm not involved with the screening process, so I don't know all the nitty gritty details of how applicants are selected to interview. But I do know that each app is screened independently by two people, and their recommendations go to the admissions dean. The screeners do review the apps very thoroughly--I've seen their checklist, and it's quite extensive.I stand corrected
Is so much care given to decisions pre-interview, or is the initial reject/interview decision made by a single adcom member?
Probably the biggest reason is if there is additional info that comes up during the meeting, like input from non-interviewers who interacted with the student, follow-up calls to LOR writers, updates sent by the student, etc.FIREitUP said:What would be a typical reason why you wouldn't follow the interviewers' recommendations?
It varies by school. At my school the final decision is made by a relatively small group (the size has varied over the years but is between 4 and 8 with half plus 1 needed for a quorum) but the recommendations of a larger subcommittee (over 12) who review and discuss and submit recommendations are weighed very heavily.
It's not really. Ask the school you are interested in and they will likely tell you how many people are on the committee. I'm fairly certain they will give a general number.Thanks Lizzy M and others who have provided input. I wish the whole behind-the-scenes adcom process wasn't so covert, but I guess maybe it has to be.
Thanks Lizzy M and others who have provided input. I wish the whole behind-the-scenes adcom process wasn't so covert, but I guess maybe it has to be.
Are you wondering how many cookies to bake?? Do you think that the committee can be bought?
Are you wondering how many cookies to bake?? Do you think that the committee can be bought?
Are you wondering how many cookies to bake?? Do you think that the committee can be bought?