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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Pinkertinkle, Apr 27, 2004.

  1. Pinkertinkle

    Pinkertinkle 2003 Member
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    Who would have a greater advantage in the admissions process:
    Average MCAT, average GPA, strong EC's

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    Strong MCAT, strong GPA, average EC's ?
     
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  3. fullefect1

    fullefect1 Senior Member
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    Strong MCAT, Strong GPA, average EC's
     
  4. mellantro

    mellantro Senior Member
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    I;d say as long as they can hold a conversation and are social (read: interview well), the latter. ECs can be the tipping point, but good stats go a long way from what I have seen this admissions cycle.
     
  5. quideam

    quideam Too tired to complain
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    Definetely the strong MCAT, strong GPA, average EC's. THe only *possible* acception to this is if you are a URM, because compared with non-URMs, you're not held to the same grade/gpa standards. A URM with really amazing EC's (and I mean setting up a clinic in Africa, something along those lines in uniqueness) may have an advantage over a URM with higher grades/MCATs and probably over a non-URM with higher grades/MCATs.
     
  6. Athomeonarock

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    Strong MCATs and GPA, just because ECs are so much harder to judge objectivly
     
  7. Trekkie963

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    Strong MCAT, strong GPA, average EC's

    No question about it.
     
  8. Pinkertinkle

    Pinkertinkle 2003 Member
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    Okay, okay how about...

    Strong MCAT, strong GPA, average EC's

    vs

    Average MCAT, average GPA, superb EC's.
    all else equal.
     
  9. exmike

    exmike NOR * CAL
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    Still Strong MCAT, Strong GPA first.

    The fact of the matter is even the most brilliant EC's wont cut it if you dont have the numbers.. unless you discovered a cure for cancer or something.
     
  10. Gleevec

    Gleevec Peter, those are Cheerios
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    ECs are extremely subjective and also there is no guarantee that if I were an adcom that this student is telling the truth. So I would go with the stats.
     
  11. Trekkie963

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    Exmike is absolutely right. Even if a school does not have a strict numbers cutoff, they will definitely favor the high numbers over the "average" ones.
     
  12. SoulRFlare

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    I'd guess the second, but it probably depends on the medical school. Ultimately, medical schools are looking for people who will not only make it through the rigorous training (high drop out rates and low board scores make a medical school look bad), but who will give the school a good name after they graduate. this could be innovative researchers or stellar technicians. though i don't think grades or the mcat can perfectly predict success in medical school and beyond, they do offer a good barometer. also, like it or not, medical schools want to do well in the rankings--more prestige means more nih money. in addition, high rankings attract high powered students, which in turn bring in even more nih money. so higher mcat scores and gpas are more directly reflected in the rankings than ec's.

    that said, there is also a movement in medical education which stresses the humanitarian dimension--a dimension that may be more accurately assessed by looking at the level of volunteer activity.
    keep in mind that this is my opinion, and is not based on anything more than a personal hunch. this process is a crapshoot, and what any given medical school chooses to do regarding admissions is anyones guess.
    good luck!
     
  13. SailCrazy

    SailCrazy I gotta have more cowbell
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    I would guess that the suburb ECs will get you in somewhere, but not to an "elite" school with only an average MCAT & GPA.
     
  14. Pinkertinkle

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    So if someone has a strong MCAT, strong gpa, but only average EC's, are they still competitive? How about at "elite" institutions?
     
  15. UseUrHeadFred

    UseUrHeadFred Oh no! It's a Wumpus!
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    The sad answer is, yes. Especially if any family was ever associated in any way with the particular school.
     
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    What about:

    moderately good MCAT, great GPA, fairly good EC's

    vs.

    reasonably good MCAT, wonderful GPA, somewhat good EC's

    vs.

    pretty good MCAT, fantastic GPA, nicely done EC's

    ?
     
  17. UseUrHeadFred

    UseUrHeadFred Oh no! It's a Wumpus!
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    My head hurts.
     
  18. LJoo83

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    what is an average gpa/mcat score?
     
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    2.0/22.5 :thumbup:
     
  20. Pinkertinkle

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    My definitions: average gpa/mcat 3.4/30

    Strong gpa/mcat 3.8/36
     
  21. duck2005

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    seems like its more like a curve. unless ur amazing (close to 4.0, 40 MCAT), it seems liek theres not much difference in the value ofs tats after the 3.8 gpa and the 36 MCAT. afterwards, i would think other aspects of ur med sch app would help u more than a couple of pts on the mcat or the gpa. really, anyone with a 36 mcat can hack it at any med school out there. beyond that, what determines how much they'll contribute to the med sch/medical profession depends in part on wha tother qualities/experiences they bring to the table
     

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