I am taking O chem 1 prior to Gen Chem 2, any advice?

[DavetheMD]

I am just curious what topics from Chem II I will need to prestudy in order to be successful in O chem. Also, are there any books/resources that helped you to understand O chem?

Thanks

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[torshi]

I am just curious what topics from Chem II I will need to prestudy in order to be successful in O chem. Also, are there any books/resources that helped you to understand O chem?

Thanks

book- organic chemistry as a second language

chem2 and ochem are totally diff so your fine, im doing the same thing

 

[isoquin]

Actually, I don't think so. They're both chemistry, but the topics aren't so overlapping that you will be completely lost in orgo without chem 2. If I may ask, why are you doing it this way?

 

[torshi]

for example: acids and bases

 

[blizzah]

I did Ochem 1 before Gchem 1.

No overlap, it's fine.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Actually, I don't think so. They're both chemistry, but the topics aren't so overlapping that you will be completely lost in orgo without chem 2. If I may ask, why are you doing it this way?

A lot of schools are switching to this curriculum. My university's chem series is Gchem 1 -> Orgo 1&2 -> Gchem 2.

I did Ochem 1 before Gchem 1.

No overlap, it's fine.

That might be a bit difficult, unless you mean Gchem 2.

 

[Frazier]

Watch the videos on www.khanacademy.com

You may not understand a lot of it, but exposure helps.

 

[torshi]

There have been many threads about this including myself.

 

[postbacpremed87]

I took Gen Chem 2 this summer session and my professor said acid/base chemistry (buffers especially), equilibria, and rates of reaction will all be important for organic

for example: acids and bases

 

[TxResident]

Acids and bases yeah (like people have said before), pretty much the only thing I can really recall that overlap, but its easy to get down once you think about it.

You might have to rank acids/bases later on and guess what protonation states some compounds are at some pH, but the concept is pretty easy to grasp.

EDIT: Oh and maybe also orbitals...

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I took Gen Chem 2 this summer session and my professor said acid/base chemistry (buffers especially), equilibria, and rates of reaction will all be important for organic

None of those were extremely important for Orgo 1. Personally, my gen chem 2 class's approach to acid/base chem was a physical chemistry/ math approach. Orgo 1 was all about reactions and reactivity, nothing math related at all.

 

[TxResident]

@serenade I guess it depends on what university/college you go to, but rates were pretty important in my ochem class.

Synthesis problems were only right if you chose the method with the best yield/rate in my class.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

@serenade I guess it depends on what university/college you go to, but rates were pretty important in my ochem class.

Synthesis problems were only right if you chose the method with the best yield/rate in my class.

Maybe, at my university you had to remember rates and explain why a reaction would result in a specific way like E2 v.s Sn2. But we never had to calculate rate laws or something.

 

[blizzah]

That might be a bit difficult, unless you mean Gchem 2.

I mean GChem 1

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I mean GChem 1

Either you're the reincarnation of a chem wiz or you took AP chem. But yah, I suppose any Ochem 1 class will start out with reviewing the basics, though it must still be more difficult.