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I feel so bad for each and every one of you.

Discussion in 'Pre-Pharmacy' started by axelz165, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:19 AM.

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  1. axelz165

    axelz165 7+ Year Member

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    For the student who couldnt hack med school applications so they chose pharmacy.

    For the child who's parent's pressured them into having a "higly paid" "prestigious" profession.

    For the follower who is just "going along" with what all their friends are doing.

    For the greedy that are in it for the money.

    For that starry-eyed poor soul who just wants to "help people".

    For to that one in a million person who actually loves pharmacy.

    This is NOT the profession you think it is. Please choose another profession; ANYTHING. Shadow a retail pharmacist, follow them around and ASK them how they feel about their job and whether they'd go go into pharmacy had they known what they know now. Better yet get a job in a retail pharmacy.

    Do not go into this based on the lies schools tell you. They only want you money and absolutely nothing else. They dont care about your dreams or your aspirations or the profession at all.. If they did they'd all willingly close their doors.
     
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  3. chemistpharmd

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    Actually I applied to pharmacy school after talking with Pharmacists and pharmacy students, and they all love what they are doing.
     
  4. steveysmith54

    steveysmith54 Member 10+ Year Member

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    You must have talked to them 10 yrs ago, at least
     
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  5. stoichiometrist

    stoichiometrist 5+ Year Member

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    This thread needs to be stickied. Pre-pharms are getting played when they're proud of their "privilege" to sign away $200k+ in loans to go to pharmacy school.
     
  6. Don't forget that there are more areas of pharmacy besides retail. It's not all doom and gloom everywhere.
     
  7. jhawkins16

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    What's up with all the hate against Pharmacy students? Some of us actually think it's interesting and feel that it is a way we can work in the background so to speak in the healthcare arena.
     
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  8. UGAZ

    UGAZ SDN Gold Donor Gold Donor Classifieds Approved 2+ Year Member

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    Unfortunately, that's where most jobs are.
     
  9. PharmDgirl7

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    My point exactly! People know finding a job in pharmacy will be tough but if it’s their passion then let them be. I get trying to warn people but gosh at the end of the day everyone is going to do what they want to do. It’s their life, their money :)
     
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  10. BigBoss

    BigBoss 2+ Year Member

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    Well, it’s not their money, it’s the government’s money.


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  11. GypsyHummus

    GypsyHummus 5+ Year Member

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    I mean, what else are you sopposed to do with a worthless biology undergraduate degree with a GPA around the 2.8-3.2 mark?

    4 years of schooling for a 110k job seems like a pretty good gig. I know people say that it’s hard to find full time employment and whatnot, but if you are willing to relocated to rural areas I would think there is a demand.
     
  12. Igra

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    I love your post, mostly because of what I found when I looked at your post history.

    Making fun of people because they couldn't hack med school applications so they chose pharmacy? Your post history seems to suggest that you had to choose pharmacy because of your low GPA, you even made a post in the past thinking about switching to dental and asked what people thought about your GPA, you even knew that pharmacy was becoming saturated and still pushed forward with it?

    your post to scare people off is just full of hypocrisy and is really just sickening. This is NOT the profession we think it is? enlighten us oh wise one? I've worked in pharmacy for years now and I'm well aware of what pharmacy is about. Are you trying to scare people off of pharmacy because you want better job prospects? or whats the deal here? I think pharmacy is not the profession YOU thought it was when you got in it and probably regret doing so. But then again, what do I know? I'm just a starry eyed poor soul that wants to help people and I love pharmacy, but couldn't get into med school.
     
  13. BigBoss

    BigBoss 2+ Year Member

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    If you know what the job market's like then why would you apply? Look at other health professions that aren't saturated.
     
  14. stoichiometrist

    stoichiometrist 5+ Year Member

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    I have to show you a dose of reality here...

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  15. Igra

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    You're about just as bad as OP stoichiometrist, another pharmacy kiddo who knew the field was saturated but still went in to the field anyways, did you even know anything about pharmacy beforehand? I saw a previous post saying you shadowed a pharmacist, but did you work as a tech or anything? I would wager you're one of the people who googled "high paying jobs" and closed your eyes and pointed to one randomly and it happened to be pharmacy. Why did you choose pharmacy knowing it was saturated? I'm curious what area of pharmacy are you working in right now? You try so hard to convince people not to get in to pharmacy, which isn't necessarily wrong, but that manner that you go about doing it is just deplorable, wrong, and effortless.

    I like your little pie chart though, it's pretty cute. I thought about loading up microsoft paint and making a chart of my own with whatever stats I wanted, but realized the effort was far more than I cared to put in. Clearly you did put in some effort when you made it up though so kudos to that, thing about facts is you should try and back them up. A quick google search only yields your post of this same chart on reddit in another attempt to frighten people with your made up facts, a couple of people even asked for the source of this chart, you failed to produce it for them though (not surprising). I joined this forum as a means to connect and read about peoples experiences in many aspects of pharmacy, but really there just seems to be too many trolls like you that contribute very little to these forums and really hurt them more than help. You're a graduate student, a doctor, act like one.
     
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  16. Igra

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    Honestly dude, if I didn't have the experience and connections that I currently have from my like 6 years of working experience as a technician, I would totally get my BSN and CRNA. The thing is that I have a great history with all my previous/current pharmacy colleagues, and I would be able to get a job with ease upon graduation. If this weren't the case then I totally would look elsewhere. I work at a teaching hospital as a technician currently and my director, my manager, and the resident coordinator all love me, and they know I'm a great worker. The other part of the puzzle bro, I just enjoy the work. I probably have more of an idea of what pharmacy is about than 98% of pharmacy applicants/students, and in my experience, the best pharmacists are the ones who were previously technicians.

    I'd really like to see the ones that are posting with intent to drive students away from pharmacy answer this question, because it appears they also fell in to the same category of knowing pharmacy was becoming saturated, but they proceeded with pharmacy school anyways, and now they post trying to scare away people?
     
  17. UGAZ

    UGAZ SDN Gold Donor Gold Donor Classifieds Approved 2+ Year Member

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    There is no point/intention to drive students away from the profession. Be very clear about this. I think stoichiometrist wants to show incoming/pre-pharm students the reality about market saturation. However, if the students already make up their own minds, nothing you can do about it. For exam, if my parents have an established pharmacy, and after graduation I just take over the store...it's a very clear situation. Or say, your brother is the CEO of a hospital and of course he can offer you a job after graduation. However, the majority isn't so. A lot of students don't know what they get themselves into...then regret during pharmacy schools...wasting seats, wasting time, money. Also, a lot of new pharmacists who didn't like the profession and just want to enter for quick money...ending up disappointment...or even if having jobs, ending up killing or harming patients. These people are NO NO for the profession...I type too quickly, please excuse typo, grammar.
     
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  18. Igra

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    UGAZ, I completely understand what you're saying, and my argument towards OP and stoichiometrist isn't what they're doing, it's how they're doing it. I do believe perspective students should at least know and understand that the market isn't ideal right now. I've talked to people that said they chose pharmacy because of googling "top paying jobs" and that drives me up the wall.

    There is a right and a wrong way to do things I think you would agree? There are plenty of well thought out, respectful, and factual posts on these forums about the saturation of pharmacy. I think anyone browsing these forums would be blind to miss these posts. In this thread OP is just belittling people, while having contradicting posts in other threads that make his whole post riddled with hypocrisy. As far as stoichiometrist behavior goes it's not much better either. If you look at his last 20 posts, how many of them mention 200k debt? the majority right? Now he is not technically wrong by saying you can go 200k into debt with pharmacy school, but hes not necessarily right either. There are schools that are 12k a year and some that are 40k a year, the people who pick the 12k schools I bet aren't going to be 200k in debt right? His pie chart that he just posted too? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he made that himself. A reverse image search only shows that image on one other site, reddit, and it's posted by him. People even asked for the source of the data, but it wasn't provided.

    You want to educate and inform perspective pharmacy students about the poor job market situation at hand go ahead, but when a member of the community posts asking for advice/tips and stoichiometrist responds to the post with
    Is that okay to you? seems pretty trollish to me.

    I think people like stoichiometrist and axelz165 are making childish posts and should be held to a higher standard by this community and themselves.
     
  19. Opticalfuture

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    What about optometry? Because i really want to do that
     

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