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I hope this is not too selfish... MCP-H vs. Creighton

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by ttac, May 30, 2002.

  1. ttac

    ttac Trust me, it's still fun. 10+ Year Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Not Philly...
    Hi everybody,
    Well, I am sorry for yet another "please compare these schools" post, but I definitely value input from people, and I think hearing many viewpoints really helps someone make a more informed decision.

    I'm currently holding an acceptance at MCP-H, but am waitlisted at Creighton. I've heard some lukewarm comments about MCP-H, but not really so much about Creighton. Yes, Creighton is in Omaha and MCPH is in Philly, but from hanging around on SDN for a while, it seems like MCPH has somewhat less than an outstanding reputation, possibly due to the past bankruptcy problems, and some low passing rates on the boards (probably due to the PBL track)

    If you had the choice between Creighton and MCP-H, which would you choose, and why? Of course this is assuming that I am lucky enough to get accepted off the waitlist at Creighton...

    Thanks alot for your advice,
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  3. SolidGold

    SolidGold Florida winters are the best! 10+ Year Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    The only thing about MCPH that has hurt their reputation is the recent finacial trouble they have been in. I beleive thats all in the past not and is not a problem at all right now. I think that MCPH is actually pretty well respected in Philly these days from what I hear. Besides, how could you give up a chance to go to med school in a great city like Philly. Can't say much about Crieghton though, don't know a damn thing about them. Hope this helps.
  4. Bikini Princess

    Bikini Princess 7+ Year Member

    May 26, 2002
    Unless you hate Nebraska, go with Creighton.

    Creighton's prestigious...more funding...of course, if you're a guy, maybe you'd like MCP since is has tons of WOMEN! but I hope you're going to medical school for better reasons than that. : p
  5. docuw

    docuw Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    I am a 2nd year at Creighton and can tell you that I absolutely love it here. I went to U of Washington for Undergrad and worked with the med students there alot. I can tell you that there is a night and day difference about the teaching philosophies between those two school. My Preference was 10:1 Creighton:UW.

    Creighton is very low competition; the professors are always available for extra help after hours and will even come in on the weekends. Students don?t spend every waking hour studying and try to live a decent and mentally healthy life. We go out to the bar, hang out a sports game, take in a movie, go out to a state park, drive down to Kansas City for a Weekend of fun, go to Colorado for a weekend of skiing, etc., etc., etc.

    The professors are very good, and the courses are very well organized. We get a copy of the power point presentations before lectures start so that we can follow along and take notes, plus on top of that each class has their own Noteservice committee that is charge of running the transcription service (each student, down an alphabetical order list, takes a turn transcribing a tape recorded copy of the lecture).

    Tests are multiple-choice and are very fair. Many of the profs are either directly or indirectly involved with writing questions for the Boards, so they do a great job of preparing us (we have only about 1 or 2 students who dont pass their first attempt).

    Grades are on a Honors (top 10% of class)/Pass (>70% raw score)/Fail (<70% raw score). This system also adds to the low competitiveness - you are really only competing against yourself to get honors, and just remember P=MD.

    As far as residency matches, Creighton does awesome. We match into all specialties, into all schools, all across the country.

    Here is the 2001match list:
    <a href="" target="_blank">2001 Match</a>

    Here is the 2002 match list:
    <a href="" target="_blank">2002 Match List by Name</a>
    <a href="" target="_blank">2002 Match List by Specialty</a>

    As far as living in Omaha: The winters are cold and get ~10" of snow at a time, and the summer are hot. The Spring is Wonderful. I absolutley love it. The Fall is quite the same, but the leaves are falling then, so that kinda sucks. I moved to Omaha from Seattle, so it was a bit of a shock - no more mountains, water, trees, or rain, but I am coping just fine - especially right now during Spring.

    I am the student housing rep this year and have setup a website designed to help Creighton med students find housing easily, especially when they are new to Omaha. If you want the address to our new CUSOM Student Housing Website, send me a PRIVATE MESSAGE, and I can provide that info to you.

    If you have any more questions, let me know.
  6. Bikini Princess

    Bikini Princess 7+ Year Member

    May 26, 2002
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    See, told you so.
  7. dr. maybe

    dr. maybe mongoose 10+ Year Member

    Jan 30, 2002
    I also interviewed at both of these school. I was much more impressed by Creighton. I have a couple of friends that go there and they absolutely love it. I think it definitely seems like more of a community if that is the type of environment you feel comfortable in.
  8. psyche

    psyche Member 7+ Year Member

    Feb 24, 2002
    I think you will get very good training at both schools. It really comes down to where you want to live. Omaha or Philadelphia? I have a brother who moved to Omaha for a job and has lived there for 2 years. He finds it absolutely dreadful. Creighton is a good school though. I wouldn't take to heart what you read on SDN about MCP. For some reason, many people on this board take great relish in trashing the school. I really don't get it. Most comparisons between schools on this site are based on the popularity of the schools in the minds of pre-meds, not the reality of the educational experience each school has to offer. Acting on that kind of information is not a wise way to pick a medical school.

    MCP is a good school located in a city loaded with health care opportunites. Creighton is no more prestigious than MCP and actually receives less research funding from NIH than MCP, not more. But your message says you're only on the waitlist for Creighton. Why are holding out for the chance to go to Omaha when you already have a sure thing in Philadelphia?

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