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I was assisting with a LP, yes L f*ing P and passed out. I was so dam hot with the mask and gown on and fainted. It wasnt the procedure of course but it sure looked like it. I look like a newbie..
QFT.So who's the idiot that let a pre-med wield a needle destined for a patient's spine?
So who's the idiot that let a pre-med wield a needle destined for a patient's spine?
I was assisting with a LP, yes L f*ing P and passed out. I was so dam hot with the mask and gown on and fainted. It wasnt the procedure of course but it sure looked like it. I look like a newbie..
Relax, it happens to the best of us. I assume the mask and the gown were for your protection against suspected meningitis (?). LP's generally don't require mask/gown, so you are probably going to be alright next time.
On a related note, if you are in the OR and know that you will go down, make sure you sit down, or move against a wall so you slide down (nothing worse than getting a fracture after falling down). Also, try to fall away from anything draped in blue (sterile), or the OR nurses will rip you a new one, and the surgeon may too.
No no no... I didnt put the dang needle in.duh. It was an attending, resident,nurse and me. I had to help keep her in a fetal position (pt. had dementia) I said "I have to step out for a minute and when I turned I fainted and BUMPED my head on the ground. I had to get CT and turns out I got a concussion. I was the only guy in the room and fainted.WTH I love surgeries so it wasnt a simple LP. It was because I didnt eat and I believe that mask and gown made it worse( pt was contact precaution) But man I am sooo embarrassed to go back to work now.So who's the idiot that let a pre-med wield a needle destined for a patient's spine?
Passing out is pretty common. When we learned venipuncture last week, we were told beforehand that a couple people pass out every year (personally, I think it's more from the pain of letting an inexperienced med student dig around in your arm rather than from the sight of blood...). They also said that every year they have a few students pass out on their surgery rotations.
You're all *******, I have never passed out EVER
hahaha!famous last words.
Famous last words.
But I seen TONS of surgeries and stood for hours. The LP was simple, clean and no blood. I wasnt even looking at it because I my head started to spin and I was concentrating on that trying to shake it off. Would having the mask on cause this as well? Because with every breath I took I felt WORSE and WORSE. I started to just rip it off but the patient was neurtropetic precaution. (spelling?)Maybe you should watch youtube surgeries with the lights off and eat food at the same time so you can get use to it. That, or you can start visiting sites that specialize in gore picture/videos. I've seen some procedures done that involved blood and chunks, but it never bothered me. I guess being a veteran of gore sites is starting to pay off.
Thanks guys I got a head ache now and wont be going to school today. Guess I can do some homework or ........OP, it happens to the best of us. I had to step out during one of the first surgeries I saw (and ended up lying in the nurses lounge for half an hour trying to feel better), and every doctor had a story for me about the time they or their classmate passed out during some procedure. Keep your chin up!
Go put a black trashbag on and stand under the sun. And then, breathe some stale air.But I seen TONS of surgeries and stood for hours. The LP was simple, clean and no blood. I wasnt even looking at it because I my head started to spin and I was concentrating on that trying to shake it off. Would having the mask on cause this as well? Because with every breath I took I felt WORSE and WORSE. I started to just rip it off but the patient was neurtropetic precaution. (spelling?)
Hypoglycemia can be a killer in the hospital. The only two times I ever felt faint/weak or had to turn away at the sight of blood have been while shadowing in a hospital, and both times I hadn't eaten.It was because I didnt eat and I believe that mask and gown made it worse
Dont get me started with that. It was done in a room with video cameras so doctors can watch our epilepsy patients when they have an episode. Anyyywhoo we went back and watched when I fell an the RN that was tried to catch me but ended up with my gown sleeve had a f*ing field day. I mean and a little of while I was all . I looked like a rag doll on camera and I bet their at work watching it now laughing! There is nothing more wierd than watching your own body go lifeless and drop.Yeah it happens to the best of us. I mean really it does.
I've seen many surgeries that didn't bother me at all, but for whatever reason, a fractured patella just got me good. Had to de-gown and step of the OR . I caught some flack from the nurses but it's all good
I know now buddy. I locked my legs for about 30min and then tried to move them around but guess it was too late. And yeah I was afraid to leave the room cause I didnt want to look like a wuss. I was trying to think of something to say then muffled " I have to go to the bathroom"Go put a black trashbag on and stand under the sun. And then, breathe some stale air.
Next time don't lock your legs (if standing) and don't be afraid to leave the room (before you think you should leave the room).
Wow that makes me feel better. It was only about 10 people in my situation but 200?? I would probably drop that class lolThese stories are great. In my parasitology class, we were watching a youtube video about the human bot fly and saw an extraction of a fly larva from someones head. It was sort of gross, but not too graphic (just a slug pulled out with tweezers). All of a sudden we hear a THUD in the back of the room. Turned out a student fainted! Quite embarrassing in a class of 200...
I know now buddy. I locked my legs for about 30min and then tried to move them around but guess it was too late. And yeah I was afraid to leave the room cause I didnt want to look like a wuss. I was trying to think of something to say then muffled " I have to go to the bathroom"
I just wanted to get out.
Dont get me started with that. It was done in a room with video cameras so doctors can watch our epilepsy patients when they have an episode. Anyyywhoo we went back and watched when I fell an the RN that was tried to catch me but ended up with my gown sleeve had a f*ing field day. I mean and a little of while I was all . I looked like a rag doll on camera and I bet their at work watching it now laughing! There is nothing more wierd than watching your own body go lifeless and drop.
Its funny too cause I mean I kept telling myself right after the fall " well it happens to us all", and thats what everyone on here is saying lol. Hell im the youngest, healthiest, most fit and stongest person on my floor and got F*ING ROASTED (I mean the staff was crying and just having a jolly oh laugh) by 50 year old women. It was a humbling experience but I know I will be telling it to a student one day in the future.HAHAHA that's great. At least she made an attempt at catching you
Oh well, when you're a surgeon you can let little undergrads shadow you for the entertainment value too. We'll all have our chance
Yeah! But honestly I hope Ill be ok cause my head is killing me now. Thats the reason Im on SDN so much cause all Im doing is sleeping and on the net. The doctor told me to come back in if I feel the need too but I hope nothing serious comes from this (seriously)I have seen a resident, who was supposedly a MD in another country for many years, pass out while watching a LP. It was hilarious. Don't feel to bad about doing it at this stage. Better now than later.
Ugh, darn. I get really lightheaded when I see my own blood/get stuck with a needle but am completely fine when I see others. Are there lots of incidents where procedures are practiced on you as a med student?
No worries OP. Like (almost) everyone here has said, it happens to everyone. I worked in an ER where I saw plenty of open fractures and arterial bleeds and I also shadowed in the OR. After all that, the thing that almost did me in was watching a vasectomy.
For us males, vasectomies are so much more than physical procedures.
Wow. Well thanks to all you guys who responded I fell better especially after reading the story of the person in the class room I just hope it NEVER happens again.I know the feeling...I almost passed out shadowing a routine T & A surgery once cause it was so hot! Luckily it wasn't my first surgery with the doc, so he knew it wasn't from watching. He said it was probably because the room has to be kept at a higher temp when they work on children, and because I was so used to it being a lot colder...
You know? I think under the right conditions the mask can make you hyperventilate. Yeah and that salt would make it that much worse like you was just totally out of it. Thanks for the story I go back to work today and I think Im ready for the jokes.Dude its ok...
first day I was shadowing a doc (might have been the first patient too) he was tending to a skin graft that wasn't healing quite right (sounds fancy but he was really just picking a scab..gross but nothing spectacular). At that point I've seen over a dozen surgeries, many of them trauma and never felt sick or even close to it. Well like 2 minutes into this, edges of my vision became dark and I saw stars. I sat down but the nurse saw me and figured it was the perfect time to administer the smelling salts. Thaaaaat only added insult to my poor injured surgeon-wannabe ego.
However, that event didn't prevent the doc from invitin me to join him in surgery so many times ive now lost count.
whether it was the mask or a fluke thing...it happens. noone cares, just head for a wall next time
yeah you do learn from it I know I did. When I returned to work, I got the "how many fingers am I holding up?" joke on EVERY ward.(Even some patients kinda joked on me who heard what happened) Oh well my ego is a little wounded but hey it happens to the best.My first day shadowing in the OR, the head surgeon let me come right up and watch as he explained a bypass. The smell got to my mask and when I asked to step out, I ended up fainting just before getting out of the room. Thankfully a nurse came up at that moment and caught me but I caused a bit of a scene.
Twas' embarrassing but I went back and made sure to eat really well before going. No one mentioned it again after the first day, I guess you just learn from it.
You're all *******, I have never passed out EVER