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  1. MedicalMagic

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    Hey All,

    I know I've posted on this forum before, so maybe some of you are familiar with me by now. I was wondering if anyone could give me some good advice. I graduated in 2004 from Bob Jones University, an evangelical Christian school. My overall GPA was a 2.81, and my Science GPA was 2.51. My MCAT score was 20, with a 12 in Verbal, 4 in Phys. Sci, and a 4 in Bio. Sci, and an R in Writing. So far this year I haven't received any interview invites. I did receive a secondary from Drexel, but that's it. A little about me... I am very motivated to be a clinician, and to spread the good word. I am wondering what I should do at this point to gain admissions. Should I attempt to contact the Deans of Admission of the schools and explain myself and my cause, or should I just wait? I really want to be a doctor and heal people, and bless them with holy grace. Please help me, and please spread the word.

    Medical Magic
     
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    I wish the emoticons would include a troll icon. 12, 4, 4? 2.5 science GPA? AND YOU GOT A SECONDARY?? hmm.. methinks TROLL. (oh, and no previous posts? hmm...)
     
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    Why do you wish the emoticons would include a troll?? What do you mean no previous posts?
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    I am asking advice for anyone who can seriously help me. We are all men, or women, and must help each other and all. Please help a man in need of the good graces.

    MedicalMagic
     
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    PRAY.
     
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    Troll or not, those stats ain't gettin ya nowhere.
     
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    I am all for positive outlooks and what not......but honestly..... with your numbers I think the best thing to do would be to enroll in a post-bacc program at an accredited institution for a year or so.....get A's in most if not all the classes you take. Study for the MCAT and retake the beast of a test. Schools want to know that you'll be able to handle the work and so far your numbers are not painting that picture. A more even ditribution on the MCAT, along with better grades, great EC's, and professors who are willing to back you up will be critical to success. Also have very good reasons (not excuses) for your past performance. Wish you the best of luck and hope that your desire to practice clinical medicine becomes a reality :) .
     
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    Thank you Ashanti, that's kind of you. As far as ECs go, I have a lot of experiences with the Church, and with spreading the good word. I've worked in clinics with underprivelaged minorities, and have worked with them to incorporate Christ into their lives. Do you think these are good ECs? And what exactly is a postbac premed program?
     
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    "spread the good word"

    "bless them with holy grace"

    "We are all men, or women, and must help each other and all"

    "Please help a man in need of the good graces"


    Total troll.
     
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    well your GPA on both overall and bcpm is below most medical schools cutoff, your mcat is low, the average for matriculants last year was 31, and that is assuming an even distribution in the three categories. Your motivations are your own business but you have not demonstrated a level of academic achievement to prove you can handle the rigors of med school.

    Your options are as such
    attend a psot bac or special masters program, pursue graduate level coursework in a scientific field to demonstrate you can handle the work at med school and you will more than likely have to take the mcat again, invest in a prep copurse mine was invaluable.

    not trying to burst your bubble but there are a whole lot of people that apply each with their own reasons and the only way to seperate the wheat from the chafe is through demonstrated levels of achievement. your scaled score corresponds to these percentile breakdowns bio sci-4=3.3-7.1 percentile, phys sci-4=1.7-5.8 percentile. your science gpa is way out of the range of acceptable at alot(probably all) med schools.
     
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    I guess this forum isn't for receiving good advice. I just wanted some advice and help, but I don't seem to be getting that. I wish I did get it. What do you mean be troll? Do you mean the Devil, or Satan? I pray I am not the Devil.
     
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    a set of classes (non degree granting) that encompasses the general pre-reqs required for med school admissions
     
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    In this previous post the OP claims that he has already gained med school admission. Maybe he just forgot.
     
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    "Many individuals pursue medical careers after receipt of a Bachelor's degree. Frequently, additional science courses and labs are required before they are prepared to apply to medical school. Therefore a number of schools now offer postbaccalaureate premedical programs. This searchable database contains information on each program's length, size, purpose, structure, cost, admission requirements, and other characteristics." ~ AAMC Website

    Here's a link for different schools with such programs:

    http://services.aamc.org/postbac/

    There are a few that even pay you to be in the program - take classes in addition to working in a lab- example is the Mayo Clinic!

    As far as the EC's go, as long as you feel comfortable talking about your experiences I think you should be fine. But I would suggest incorporating a variety of activities - they don't even have to be medically related- just things that you enjoy and believe are worth while. I think that if you are passionate about anything you are engaged in the adcoms will see this and this definately gets more points than an activity competed just for the sake of boosting a resume.
     
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    Thank you beefballs, you have been very helpful. I will look into these postbac premed programs you speak of.
     
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    o.k see I was trying to be nice and all, but dude you need to chill out!!!!
     
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    How can you people buy this crap?
     
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    I don't know.. let's all just report this troll so he won't continue to clog up the boards. Geesh.
     
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    No I didn't get into med. school, see I sinned. I lied when I said that before. I was just wishing, you see. Now I know I shouldn't lie.
     
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    sometimes I really feel stupid when I try to help
     
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    BJU ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    Bob Jones University is such a bad university, i can't believe it actually exists.
    Here's a list of the notoriety of Bob Jones
    Interracial dating at this school was banned until 2000.
    Students at BJU recite the University Creed at chapel services four days a week and at the worship service on Sunday.
    I believe in the inspiration of the Bible (both the Old and the New Testaments); the creation of man by the direct act of God; the incarnation and virgin birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ; His identification as the Son of God; His vicarious atonement for the sins of mankind by the shedding of His blood on the cross; the resurrection of His body from the tomb; His power to save men from sin; the new birth through the regeneration by the Holy Spirit; and the gift of eternal life by the grace of God.


    General rules
    Curfew is at 10:25 pm and all lights must be out by 12 am. This curfew aids safety for students and also helps to ensure that they get some needed sleep while they are at college.
    Interaction with the opposite sex after 5 pm on weekdays, and after 2 pm on weekends is prohibited.
    Students are required to sign out when they leave campus, largely as a measure of safety. This rule does not apply to male students with Junior and Senior privileges, who are free to leave without signing out between the hours of 7 am and 7 pm.
    Unfiltered wireless internet access via computer, mobile phone, or satellite phone is prohibited. However, the university provides content-filtered Wi-fi service for student use. The filter blocks pornography and other objectionable content.
    Students are provided with an individual email account which is filtered through the campus email system to prevent questionable content. This filtered email system is consistent with the practice of many major banks and other businesses.
    DVD/VCRs are not allowed in residence halls; DVD players as part of computer systems cannot be used for watching films. Televisions may be used only as monitors for video game consoles.
    Students in residence halls are not allowed to watch any films with a rating higher than a G rating when visiting local homes and are forbidden from visiting cinemas. Additionally, students are not permitted to play, use, or own video games that are rated T, M, or Ao, or that have any kind of profanity, sensual or suggestive dress, rock music, blood and gore, or demonic themes.
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    Many think that magazines of any kind showing any pictures of females are prohibited on the campus, but this rule does not exist. Possessing or distributing pornography is an expulsion offense.
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    Students are permitted to work until 10:25 pm on weekdays and 12 am on weekends.
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    Men's hair is required to be traditionally styled with a conservative cut. Hair must not be colored or highlighted and is not permitted to be shaved, shelved, tangled or spiked.
    Sideburns may not reach past the lower opening of the ear. It is recommended that men be clean-shaven at all times.
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    Afternoon dress will include a collared shirt (no crew necks), neat casual pants, dress or casual shoes (no slippers or sandals). Socks should be above the ankle, and sweatshirts or sweaters are permitted.
    Sunday dress requires a coat, tie, dress shirt, dress shoes, dress or dressier casual pants.
    Recreation and work dress may include jeans and t-shirts. Sleeveless athletic shirts may be worn during indoor activities only. Shorts may be worn at athletic facilities but not as spectators at sporting events. Socks are required at all times.
    The goal of these guidelines for dress is a neat and professional look for students while they are at school.
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    Female dress code
    General and classroom dress for women consists of a dress or top and skirt. Pants are allowed for some recreational activities. Women may never wear shorts outside the residence halls and fitness center.
    Underwear
    The rumor that colored panties are not allowed is completely false. No one checks for the color of women's underwear. However, colored underwear should not be visible through outer clothing. For instance, a student should not pair a bright pink bra with a sheer white blouse.
    Underwear may not be exposed in public at any time. Contrary to popular belief, no one cares what the girls wear when they sleep and under no circumstances does anyone check.
    There are no regulations about underwear beneath bathing costumes as some allege. The only guidelines for swimwear are that the suit must be one-piece and modest.
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    The middle area of the torso may never be exposed as this look is considered to be unprofessional and distracting. Tops must be long enough to meet the top of the skirt or pants. This guideline encourages professionalism and modesty of appearance.
    Sleeveless tops and dresses may be worn with a blouse, jacket, or sweater. In all other cases, sleeves are required. This rule is one of convenience rather than conviction. Further, there is no rule about covering the arms.
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    Hemlines, slits or other openings may never be higher than the bottom of the knee.
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    Loose-fitting pants may be worn between female residence halls, for the purpose of athletic events, and to local area residences.
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    Hose are required for all professional activities, including church, recitals, and class.
    Shoes like combat or hiking boots are not permitted.
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    Tattoos are prohibited. A maximum of two matched sets of earrings are allowed, and they must be worn in the lobe of the ear. Any other body piercings are prohibited.
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    So you were accepted at MCV and Columbia and now you're an academically challenged, evangelical Christian at Bob Jones?

    I'll give you a word of advice: consistency ;)
     
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