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Hello, fellow sdners and dentists! I have been reading much about our current economic situation and deliberate uncontrolled spending and rising deficit. If 10 years from now, the US economy goes into major depression and eventually a collapse of US dollars...what do you smart people think will be the outlook of dentistry during those times? How bad do you think it will affect the dentists in terms of money and stress? I have always thought of healthcare careers to be recession proof but it seems like physicians will do OK because of the constant influx of patients. But I think dentistry is a bit less appealing to the major populations because they can wait it out. As long as symptoms dont persist, they will not visit a dentist for regular appointments. but they would have to visit the physician for their refills of prescriptions and what not.

The reason i am asking this question is because i am a bit skeptical about the future of dentists when US economy collapses if we keep going the way we are currently.

This forum is in reference to WHAT IF?? the US economy collapses..then what???
 

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do you realize what you are saying? the US economy COLLAPSE? recession is one thing, but if the value of the AMERICAN DOLLAR bursts, then to worry about the "future of dentistry" is not going be up there on anyone's list. trust me, there are people out there who have wayy bigger interests vested in the well-being of the US economy.
 

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Hello, fellow sdners and dentists! I have been reading much about our current economic situation and deliberate uncontrolled spending and rising deficit. If 10 years from now, the US economy goes into major depression and eventually a collapse of US dollars...what do you smart people think will be the outlook of dentistry during those times? How bad do you think it will affect the dentists in terms of money and stress? I have always thought of healthcare careers to be recession proof but it seems like physicians will do OK because of the constant influx of patients. But I think dentistry is a bit less appealing to the major populations because they can wait it out. As long as symptoms dont persist, they will not visit a dentist for regular appointments. but they would have to visit the physician for their refills of prescriptions and what not.

The reason i am asking this question is because i am a bit skeptical about the future of dentists when US economy collapses if we keep going the way we are currently.

This forum is in reference to WHAT IF?? the US economy collapses..then what???
You've been listening a lot to Glenn Beck and Foxnews. US economy is never going to collapse regardless who the president is.
 
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You've been listening a lot to Glenn Beck and Foxnews. US economy is never going to collapse regardless who the president is.
Hahaha... You watch too much CNN, ABC, and CBS. Glenn Beck is the man and most of his points are right on. Fox news is the highest rated news channel for good reason. Our leadership right now is terrible and I think most people are finally waking up and seeing it. Remember, this is a capitalistic society. Socialism doesn't work. :D
 
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You've been listening a lot to Glenn Beck and Foxnews. US economy is never going to collapse regardless who the president is.
This is my oppinion on the research I have done, and some book I have read, but the US economy is in a big S**t hole. Just be prepared. The good thing is when the dollar crashes the whole world will be in the same boat so to speak.
You know the saying, when America sneezes the whole world coughs.
As far as dentistry goes I agree with the poster above me, it will be the least of the problem.
 

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Hahaha... You watch too much CNN, ABC, and CBS. Glenn Beck is the man and most of his points are right on. Fox news is the highest rated news channel for good reason. Our leadership right now is terrible and I think most people are finally waking up and seeing it. Remember, this is a capitalistic society. Socialism doesn't work. :D
you actually take that lunatic seriously?

if america fails, then the whole world will be in recession. we'll all be poor, no matter where you move. :p
 
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well there will be hyperinflation before that happens... so the cost of my education and the 7% interest rate will be reduced (in terms of real dollars) significantly :D... and after that I will accept payments in goat cheese and pork rinds... I mean these are commodities that will have real value when we are all singing koombaya in the financial dark ages; after the world comes down on our head that is. My suggestion is to fight the battles you can and leave the projecting to the economists, and if you think the American dollar is going to come crashing down then you should be investing in GOLD anyways; the dollar failure hedge, amigo.
 
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you actually take that lunatic seriously?

if america fails, then the whole world will be in recession. we'll all be poor, no matter where you move. :p
Lunatic? Seriously? The guy makes valid points. He doesn't want America to fail. I don't know where you got that from.

Honestly, if we continue to head where this administration wants to take us, America will fail. Listen to this lady :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI&feature=related

That's where were headed and this entitlement thing needs to end. :rolleyes:
 

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The US is so far in debt to China that the standard living will fall. Eventually it will come due. Consumer debt is at astronomical levels, we can no longer sustain this. The US dollar will no longer be the world currency.
 

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Lunatic? Seriously? The guy makes valid points. He doesn't want America to fail. I don't know where you got that from.

Honestly, if we continue to head where this administration wants to take us, America will fail. Listen to this lady :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI&feature=related

That's where were headed and this entitlement thing needs to end. :rolleyes:
im sure that lady in that youtube video was just ecstatic about the president and exaggerating.

that's your evidence that america is turning into a commie state? lol

socialism works well in many rich western nations btw. it's not the end of the world.

if anything, you should be more pissed about the money wasted on the pointless wars in the middle east than the introduction of a bit of socialism. the money spent on the war could have paid for the healthcare of all the children in the US.


i can't believe someone on SDN actually roots for Glenn beck. but if his mindless fear-inducing dribble keeps you entertained then it's your choice...

i put Glenn beck in the same thrash bin as Sarah Palin. they're good for a few chuckles once in a while
 
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Consider the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the beginning of the Iraq war we stated in no uncertain terms that the economic consequences of the war would be to burden future generations of U.S. taxpayers with declines in their standard of living due to the debts incurred by the current generation’s leaders. When the Afghanistan war began, we repeated the warning.
Today, we believe that, the U.S. unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Social Security, and health and retirement for service members and other federal employees as well as other “entitlement” programs total about $38 trillion. Remember, this liability is unfunded.
The current U.S. healthcare bill may be even more expensive than the wars. Now it is our unfortunate duty to point out that the current healthcare bill will further burden and encumber the coming generations of American taxpayers. There is no question that U.S. companies will re-evaluate the costs of hiring new employees, and that corporate profits, and thus stock market prices, will be heavily impacted by the cost burden that corporations will be faced with to support the uninsured.
Just as with the cost estimates associated with the wars, the actual costs will likely be trillions of dollars more than the politicians report to the taxpayers; costs are conveniently forgotten, or worse, just lied about through lowball cost estimates by the Congressional Budget Office. The healthcare bill will be very expensive for future generations. The big question is, how long will it be before the world realizes that, like Greece and many other nations, we are living beyond our means in the U.S.?
 

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Consider the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the beginning of the Iraq war we stated in no uncertain terms that the economic consequences of the war would be to burden future generations of U.S. taxpayers with declines in their standard of living due to the debts incurred by the current generation's leaders. When the Afghanistan war began, we repeated the warning.
Today, we believe that, the U.S. unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Social Security, and health and retirement for service members and other federal employees as well as other "entitlement" programs total about $38 trillion. Remember, this liability is unfunded.
The current U.S. healthcare bill may be even more expensive than the wars. Now it is our unfortunate duty to point out that the current healthcare bill will further burden and encumber the coming generations of American taxpayers. There is no question that U.S. companies will re-evaluate the costs of hiring new employees, and that corporate profits, and thus stock market prices, will be heavily impacted by the cost burden that corporations will be faced with to support the uninsured.
Just as with the cost estimates associated with the wars, the actual costs will likely be trillions of dollars more than the politicians report to the taxpayers; costs are conveniently forgotten, or worse, just lied about through lowball cost estimates by the Congressional Budget Office. The healthcare bill will be very expensive for future generations. The big question is, how long will it be before the world realizes that, like Greece and many other nations, we are living beyond our means in the U.S.?
very good points.

but in a humanistic view instead of a financial one, at least this bill saves lives rather than taking them... but your points are valid
 
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im sure that lady in that youtube video was just ecstatic about the president and exaggerating.

that's your evidence that america is turning into a commie state? lol

socialism works well in many rich western nations btw. it's not the end of the world.

if anything, you should be more pissed about the money wasted on the pointless wars in the middle east than the introduction of a bit of socialism. the money spent on the war could have paid for the healthcare of all the children in the US.


i can't believe someone on SDN actually roots for Glenn beck. but if his mindless fear-inducing dribble keeps you entertained then it's your choice...

i put Glenn beck in the same thrash bin as Sarah Palin. they're good for a few chuckles once in a while

There are a lot of other examples. That's just one and I'm sure that lady was saying what she believed and not exaggerating. I'm not going to sit here and post example after example.

Are you from another country? Socialism doesn't work, period!

I'm glad you think 9/11 and terrorist threats are no big deal and yeah you're right, pointless war... :rolleyes: It makes me sick hearing people complain after tons of men and woman have sacrificed their lives so people like you can troll the internet and call it pointless. :confused:

Thrash bin? I can't believe there are people supporting obama on SDN. Anyone in dentistry or anywhere else should be outraged with him. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. http://obamaclock.org/
 
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So you guys think pursuing a career in medicine rather than dentistry would be a safer choice for future endeavors, if US economy were to crash????what do you ppl thnk?
 
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So you guys think pursuing a career in medicine rather than dentistry would be a safer choice for future endeavors, if US economy were to crash????what do you ppl thnk? Also, how many of you know of dentists that are not affiliated with any insurance companies...meaning dentists that are out of network? Do you guys know of dentists that take only cash, credit or check...I work at a psychiatric clinic that only takes cash, credit and check and each physician nets 12000 monthly after all taxes and office expenses including malpractice and all. Are there such possibilities in dentistry?
 
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"When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." –"The Glenn Beck Program," Sept. 9, 2005
 
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"So here you have Barack Obama going in and spending the money on embryonic stem cell research. ... Eugenics. In case you don't know what Eugenics led us to: the Final Solution. A master race! A perfect person. ... The stuff that we are facing is absolutely frightening." –"The Glenn Beck Program," March 9, 2009

"O-L-I-G-A-R-H-Y." –misspelling "oligarchy" on his chalk board while claiming he had deciphered a secret code that he said was proof President Obama was trying to create an "Oligarhy," Aug. 27, 2009, Glenn Beck show on FOX News Channel
 

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There are a lot of other examples. That's just one and I'm sure that lady was saying what she believed and not exaggerating. I'm not going to sit here and post example after example.

Are you from another country? Socialism doesn't work, period!

I'm glad you think 9/11 and terrorist threats are no big deal and yeah you're right, pointless war... :rolleyes: It makes me sick hearing people complain after tons of men and woman have sacrificed their lives so people like you can troll the internet and call it pointless. :confused:

Thrash bin? I can't believe there are people supporting obama on SDN. Anyone in dentistry or anywhere else should be outraged with him. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. http://obamaclock.org/
1st war in afghanistan was perhaps justified to hunt for bin laden

as for the war in iraq, i hope you enjoy paying for the rest of your life for a fruitless search of weapons of mass destruction.
not only was it a waste of money, it certainly shattered any positive image the US had left in that region.

and I never implied that the sacrifice of 9/11 victims were meaningless so get a grip on reality, you extreme nut.
 
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There are a lot of other examples. That's just one and I'm sure that lady was saying what she believed and not exaggerating. I'm not going to sit here and post example after example.

Are you from another country? Socialism doesn't work, period!

I'm glad you think 9/11 and terrorist threats are no big deal and yeah you're right, pointless war... :rolleyes: It makes me sick hearing people complain after tons of men and woman have sacrificed their lives so people like you can troll the internet and call it pointless. :confused:

Thrash bin? I can't believe there are people supporting obama on SDN. Anyone in dentistry or anywhere else should be outraged with him. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. http://obamaclock.org/
This is really Orly Taitz the DDS behind the birther movement lol
 

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There are a lot of other examples. That's just one and I'm sure that lady was saying what she believed and not exaggerating. I'm not going to sit here and post example after example.

Are you from another country? Socialism doesn't work, period!

I'm glad you think 9/11 and terrorist threats are no big deal and yeah you're right, pointless war... :rolleyes: It makes me sick hearing people complain after tons of men and woman have sacrificed their lives so people like you can troll the internet and call it pointless. :confused:

Thrash bin? I can't believe there are people supporting obama on SDN. Anyone in dentistry or anywhere else should be outraged with him. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. http://obamaclock.org/
you are garbage. you have no clue what other countries are successful with socialism really. live in another country and maybe you can make that comment. regardless of the side you and other idiots on this post will just throw stupid examples at each other. what makes you think your examples are better? both political parties have significant issues but for some reason it always ends with the republican dogging the president of our country rather than taking into consideration a lack of heart (true republicans...no such thing) on their own part and some extremely shoddy "liberating" financial moves by the big wigs that really only help the big wigs (ie: credit card CEO's, bank CEO's, insurance company CEO's).
do you not have brains enough to realize that both models could work if given the freedom to implement a full program? that's the problem with our country really. people roll into there 20's/30's and start to feel entitled to what they earn and become republicans. they want every freaking handout possible in high school and college to help them through there tough times then expect that they should receive every penny they work for from then on.
i'm in no way a full blown socialist. i simply realize that for the better good its kind of nice to think about your fellow man. this health reform is a total crock but the underlying truth is the thing that nobody wants to waste their breath on, helping the people of our country who simply haven't figured out how to help themselves, is always overlooked for the money side of it.
congratulations to each of you who will respond about the lazies and what not. you have figured your life out most likely from a family who helped you to this point. and btw, we as dentists won't seriously be affected by this reform. unless you consider making a healthy six-figure income for 30+ year an insult. sorry you wont certainly make $400,000+ or whatever for multiple years.
 

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and I forgot....conservatism....doesn't work....period!
 

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and I forgot....conservatism....doesn't work....period!
the first thing you need to realize is that threads like these are pointless. when someone starts a conversation that includes "glenn beck has some good points" you know that they have abandonded all sense of reality and objectiveness. they cannot be reasoned with. let these fools run around and scream that the sky is falling. they are fools. don't take it personal. everything is gonna be fine. America is not about to collapse. now avoid getting baited into these nonsense propaganda threads.
 

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Hello, fellow sdners and dentists! I have been reading much about our current economic situation and deliberate uncontrolled spending and rising deficit. If 10 years from now, the US economy goes into major depression and eventually a collapse of US dollars...what do you smart people think will be the outlook of dentistry during those times? How bad do you think it will affect the dentists in terms of money and stress? I have always thought of healthcare careers to be recession proof but it seems like physicians will do OK because of the constant influx of patients. But I think dentistry is a bit less appealing to the major populations because they can wait it out. As long as symptoms dont persist, they will not visit a dentist for regular appointments. but they would have to visit the physician for their refills of prescriptions and what not.

The reason i am asking this question is because i am a bit skeptical about the future of dentists when US economy collapses if we keep going the way we are currently.

This forum is in reference to WHAT IF?? the US economy collapses..then what???
It is impossible to answer your questions perfectly because no one can tell the future. However, if we understand our history we can make reasonable predictions.


1. For those nay sayers out there, the collapse of the dollar is inevitable. This is because the dollar is a FIAT currency. All fiat currencies the world has ever seen eventually collapsed. History is replete with evidence. The dollar will be no different. It only lasted as long as it did because it was originally backed by gold and silver (thus not originally a fiat currency). The dollar was doomed the day it became a federal reserve note.

2. Just before a currency totally collapses, it is common for a country to print it off like there is no tomorrow. This happened to the Confederate States of America, Germany, Argentina, Nigeria, Peru, etc. It has happened too many times to count. Historically, gold has been used as a medium of wealth preservation during times of a currency collapse. The idea is to sell your hyperinflated currency for gold while idiots are still willing to take them and then sell your gold for the new currency that replaces the old.

3. The collapse of the dollar will affect dentistry in two ways. First, there will be a hyperinflationary depression. Second, there will be a deflationary depression. The hyperinflation occurs as the dollar is destroyed and the deflation occurs as the new currency emerges. If you keep your eye on the price of gold, it will give you a good idea of where we stand in this mess.

4. The career path you choose won't matter during this process. You make it sound as if there may be a better career path than dentistry to ride this out.

5. There's a lot of political debate about who's fault this is. My intent is to shatter the false left/right paradigm. The reality is that both Democrats and Republicans are responsible for this mess. America is stuck in a cycle of perpetual political tyranny whereby powerful interest groups and lobbyists buy off our politicians. Don't be fooled into thinking the Republicans didn't want government healthcare. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_overhaul_requiring_insurance
Don't be fooled into thinking the Democrats don't want war. If they didn't, would we still be in Iraq and now even more in Afghanistan? As far as I'm concerned, they are the same party. The party of sell outs. Vote for anyone but a democrat or republican!
 
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Thanks Tooth! i was hoping for someone to answer my question rather than ppl talking abt Glenn Beck! So my other post was regarding medicine and it was:
"So you guys think pursuing a career in medicine rather than dentistry would be a safer choice for future endeavors, if US economy were to crash????what do you ppl thnk? Also, how many of you know of dentists that are not affiliated with any insurance companies...meaning dentists that are out of network? Do you guys know of dentists that take only cash, credit or check...I work at a psychiatric clinic that only takes cash, credit and check and each physician nets 12000 monthly after all taxes and office expenses including malpractice and all. Are there such possibilities in dentistry? "

Please tell me what you think? Is being a physician a better option than a dentist in future economy? What do you think?
 
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Thanks Tooth! i was hoping for someone to answer my question rather than ppl talking abt Glenn Beck! So my other post was regarding medicine and it was:
"So you guys think pursuing a career in medicine rather than dentistry would be a safer choice for future endeavors, if US economy were to crash????what do you ppl thnk? Also, how many of you know of dentists that are not affiliated with any insurance companies...meaning dentists that are out of network? Do you guys know of dentists that take only cash, credit or check...I work at a psychiatric clinic that only takes cash, credit and check and each physician nets 12000 monthly after all taxes and office expenses including malpractice and all. Are there such possibilities in dentistry? "

Please tell me what you think? Is being a physician a better option than a dentist in future economy? What do you think?

No since you and the glenn beck lovers feel this way what is the point of going to dental school? Learn to be a farmer or something better yet why not end your misery now some milk and a bottle of pain killers should do the trick
 

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If I were you, I would be digging a bunker in the back yard. Arm up, and stock up food and water. Start learning Mandarin and Spanish. Stash enough fuel for your generator to power your I-phone and Nintendo DS for at least several years. People won't need dentists inside of five years after the government falls thanks to Obamacare. Move away from the coasts or face the wrath of unbridled nature. The reign of the beast is at hand. The three horsemen of the apocolypse are coming.
 
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you are garbage. you have no clue what other countries are successful with socialism really. live in another country and maybe you can make that comment.

sorry you wont certainly make $400,000+ or whatever for multiple years.
I come from a socialist country, and I could say it doesn't work.

And if I want to make 400K a year, that's my right as an American. That is why my parents came to this country. Who is the government to take my hard earned money and give it to people they see fit. All you "progressive idiots should move to Cuba, to see what a utopia socialism really is.

Btw if the US dollar collapses it wouldn't matter if your an MD or DMD, we are all screwed.
 
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when someone starts a conversation that includes "glenn beck has some good points" you know that they have abandonded all sense of reality and objectiveness.

HAHA!
 

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I come from a socialist country, and I could say it doesn't work.

And if I want to make 400K a year, that's my right as an American. That is why my parents came to this country. Who is the government to take my hard earned money and give it to people they see fit. All you "progressive idiots should move to Cuba, to see what a utopia socialism really is.

Btw if the US dollar collapses it wouldn't matter if your an MD or DMD, we are all screwed.
i doubt anyone was rooting for communism.

look at Canada and Scandinavia. those countries are big communist hellholes, right?
 

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I hear China has a lot of people...:)

DO they have a board exam like the WREB? I would hate to go through one of those again.
 

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The takehome message here is that Glenn Beck is an entertainer, not a politician, not a viable source of information, not an objective pundit, but someone who puts dollars in Fox's wallet. Personally, I think Fox is not a news network, but more of a political outlet for the right. To prove it, just monitor foxnews.com for a week. I have been doing this for a couple of months. I guarentee the majority of their front page stories will be criticism of the current administration, rabbling about evil health care and how awesome tea party members are. Keep in mind, this is my opinion from experience. I'm not a friend of fox because they are a network for entertainment, much like ESPN... both aren't exactly perfect journalists (ex : skip bayless, rumor mills, Will Ferrell appearances) but they are good entertainment. Just take everything with a grain of salt, people.
 

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"When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." –"The Glenn Beck Program," Sept. 9, 2005

I bet this came form Mediamatters.org, and totally taken out of context. Anyone wanna bet on it?
 
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It is impossible to answer your questions perfectly because no one can tell the future. However, if we understand our history we can make reasonable predictions.


1. For those nay sayers out there, the collapse of the dollar is inevitable. This is because the dollar is a FIAT currency. All fiat currencies the world has ever seen eventually collapsed. History is replete with evidence. The dollar will be no different. It only lasted as long as it did because it was originally backed by gold and silver (thus not originally a fiat currency). The dollar was doomed the day it became a federal reserve note.

2. Just before a currency totally collapses, it is common for a country to print it off like there is no tomorrow. This happened to the Confederate States of America, Germany, Argentina, Nigeria, Peru, etc. It has happened too many times to count. Historically, gold has been used as a medium of wealth preservation during times of a currency collapse. The idea is to sell your hyperinflated currency for gold while idiots are still willing to take them and then sell your gold for the new currency that replaces the old.

3. The collapse of the dollar will affect dentistry in two ways. First, there will be a hyperinflationary depression. Second, there will be a deflationary depression. The hyperinflation occurs as the dollar is destroyed and the deflation occurs as the new currency emerges. If you keep your eye on the price of gold, it will give you a good idea of where we stand in this mess.

4. The career path you choose won't matter during this process. You make it sound as if there may be a better career path than dentistry to ride this out.

6. There's a lot of political debate about who's fault this is. My intent is to shatter the false left/right paradigm. The reality is that both Democrats and Republicans are responsible for this mess. America is stuck in a cycle of perpetual political tyranny whereby powerful interest groups and lobbyists buy off our politicians. Don't be fooled into thinking the Republicans didn't want government healthcare. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_overhaul_requiring_insurance
Don't be fooled into thinking the Democrats don't want war. If they didn't, would we still be in Iraq and now even more in Afghanistan? As far as I'm concerned, they are the same party. The party of sell outs. Vote for anyone but a democrat or republican!
This is one of the most rational statements in this thread! I'm neither Rep or Dem and I think being an extremist in either camp is utter foolishness and blind and there are plenty on this thread.

The US $ is Fiat meaning it is only worth the promise of the US govt. If trust falls for one reason or another the value goes to zero or close.
The US is a great nation but not invincible and cracks are forming.
I want the US to be successful but things are cracking.
You don't want to be an alarmist but DO protect yourself and your family it is the right thing to do.

The fate of the US$ is political and at this point can go either way. Pray that our leaders do the right thing.

The Roman Empire was once considered invincible and their Dinar accepted everywhere in the world. But they overspent (in wars) and inflated their currency until nobody wants it anymore. this occurs over 2-3 hundred yrs. What happened to the Roman Empire, they slowly over many generations decayed and crumbled eventually gone!

Note that the US is only in existence for just over 200 yrs. Don't ever once think we're invincible. Be vigilant and hope WE, the people, appoint leaders who are Fiscally Sane and responsible.
 

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If the economy crashed, then yes it would be safe to say a career in medicine would be safer than dentistry. We already have a huge shortage of primary care physicians, and the shortage will increase with universal healthcare coverage. However, if you do your research, you'll find that there are other jobs in the medical field that pay almost as much (or even more) than general practitioners, without having to go through the hassle of medschool&residency, deal with litigious patients, and other downsides of being a physician.


So you guys think pursuing a career in medicine rather than dentistry would be a safer choice for future endeavors, if US economy were to crash????what do you ppl thnk?
 

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Thanks Tooth! i was hoping for someone to answer my question rather than ppl talking abt Glenn Beck! So my other post was regarding medicine and it was:
"So you guys think pursuing a career in medicine rather than dentistry would be a safer choice for future endeavors, if US economy were to crash????what do you ppl thnk? Also, how many of you know of dentists that are not affiliated with any insurance companies...meaning dentists that are out of network? Do you guys know of dentists that take only cash, credit or check...I work at a psychiatric clinic that only takes cash, credit and check and each physician nets 12000 monthly after all taxes and office expenses including malpractice and all. Are there such possibilities in dentistry? "

Please tell me what you think? Is being a physician a better option than a dentist in future economy? What do you think?
I don't know. In the event of a currency collapse, I imagine there would be no significant difference being a MD vs a DMD. I believe it is very possible to only accept cash/credit/checks at a dental office. Of course, there would be a price to pay for having that kind of policy. As long as there is a dentist in town who will accept my insurance, I will not go to you. So, you will need to practice in an area where either no one has insurance or you are the only gig in town. Maybe Kansas is the place for you.

I would like to add, for the continued nay sayers out there, that their denial of the eventual collapse of the dollar is not evidence based. Some people find that having to deal with such a daunting event is so psychologically taxing that it is simply easier to be a mental ostrich. To them I say, you just keep sticking your head in the ground and telling yourself "America is Invincible! What goes up can never come down. What works for the Democrats/Republicans works for me!" Everything will be okay.

For everyone else, I say please support other political parties. Congress's approval rating is 16%!!!! Americans hate both parties yet they are so predictably programed to vote for them again and again it makes me sick.
 
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Are you from another country? Socialism doesn't work, period!
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Sigh...why do people automatically go to extremes? Are we socialist because we have Medicare? Are we socialist because we have universal schooling? Maybe we should get rid of those too?

We are the last and only wealthy country who does not have universal health care. This is not an experiment, we are in fact way behind the curve.
 

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Lunatic? Seriously? The guy makes valid points. He doesn't want America to fail. I don't know where you got that from.

Honestly, if we continue to head where this administration wants to take us, America will fail. Listen to this lady :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI&feature=related

That's where were headed and this entitlement thing needs to end. :rolleyes:
Ha! Actually all he wants is to get TV ratings and increase his value to FOX. I started to read his book in Borders- got through half of it in about 45 minutes until I realized it was simply a huge bag of whining every other line interspersed with sarcastic comments and gross over exaggerations. As I watch the show sometimes, he lost a lot of respect after that event.

And that's not saying I'm an Obama fan either...:mad:
 

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The takehome message here is that Glenn Beck is an entertainer, not a politician, not a viable source of information, not an objective pundit, but someone who puts dollars in Fox's wallet. Personally, I think Fox is not a news network, but more of a political outlet for the right. To prove it, just monitor foxnews.com for a week. I have been doing this for a couple of months. I guarentee the majority of their front page stories will be criticism of the current administration, rabbling about evil health care and how awesome tea party members are. Keep in mind, this is my opinion from experience. I'm not a friend of fox because they are a network for entertainment, much like ESPN... both aren't exactly perfect journalists (ex : skip bayless, rumor mills, Will Ferrell appearances) but they are good entertainment. Just take everything with a grain of salt, people.
You really couldn't have said it better- Fox is entertainment, interspersed with a few valid points. So much of what is said on that channel is opinion it's not even funny. MSNBC, CNN, etc.. really aren't that much better at times, but they are much sneakier in how they report- although they still have a left sided bias.
 

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Sigh...why do people automatically go to extremes? Are we socialist because we have Medicare? Are we socialist because we have universal schooling? Maybe we should get rid of those too?

We are the last and only wealthy country who does not have universal health care. This is not an experiment, we are in fact way behind the curve.
Let's review our nations history. America previously enjoyed the highest educational standards in the world. Then, the government decided it would be a good idea to create the Department of Education, an act of socialism defined by the government overtaking and running an industry the was previously run in the private sector. Since then, the educational standard of this country has inarguably declined to the point that many Americans can no longer point to our own country on a map.

Everyone knows that when the government takes over an industry that it will suck. Just go to the DMV!

The point is incrementalism.

One day its social security, then it's our educational system, then healthcare. You know, why can't we just let the government run everything since it's so great? Because that would make us communists. Communism = Socialism by incrementalism.
 
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Let's review our nations history. America previously enjoyed the highest educational standards in the world. Then, the government decided it would be a good idea to create the Department of Education, an act of socialism defined by the government overtaking and running an industry the was previously run in the private sector. Since then, the educational standard of this country has inarguably declined to the point that many Americans can no longer point to our own country on a map.

Everyone knows that when the government takes over an industry that it will suck. Just go to the DMV!

The point is incrementalism.

One day its social security, then it's our educational system, then healthcare. You know, why can't we just let the government run everything since it's so great? Because that would mean we're communists. Communism = Socialism by incrementalization.
perhaps the fault lies in how it was reformed..

i think the points you're trying to make are very narrow minded.

many countries in western europe have post-secondary systems that are almost free. most of the schools in canada are also heavily supported by the government.

they all have good education systems.

stop trying to incite fear. you almost sound like glenn beck
 

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Sigh...why do people automatically go to extremes? Are we socialist because we have Medicare? Are we socialist because we have universal schooling? Maybe we should get rid of those too?

We are the last and only wealthy country who does not have universal health care. This is not an experiment, we are in fact way behind the curve.
Hm...government has a a direct stake in the banks, a direct stake in car companies, recently expanded entitlement healthcare in addition to social security and medicare, and as of today has taken over college loans. Government control is creeping into finance, commerce, healthcare and education.

If you don't think we're headed towards socialism, you need to crack open a history textbook and reread what socialism is.
 
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