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You're sh**ting me, right? This has to be a joke.
 
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you just sound like the coolest person ever.
 
I think you should take the MCAT again.

Take it for silver_eyes, so this way we won't have to hear her beg for advice and whine about how she only scored a 19. This way we can kill two annoying birds with one stone. 🙄
 
if i were you i'd start looking overseas
 
why did you do so low?????????
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
. . .but should I retake the MCAT? This is going to sound like a really stupid question, and I swear I'm not looking for ego stroking. I got a 38S (13V/13P/12B), but I'd been getting over 40 on all of my practice tests.

I know that ordinarily it wouldn't matter, but I need it to compensate for some crappy grades. I have a 3.53 overall, with a lot of improvement, and a 3.84 science (4.0 if you don't count stupid calculus). I also have a lot of volunteering.

The thing is, I really, really want to go to Baylor. Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades?

Despite the typical comment this type of post receives, I do kinda know where you're coming from. I had a writing score last year that was not on par with my number score and was concerned about whether this would affect my chances, and it ended up I had absolutely nothing to worry about - the same is definitely (probably moreso) the case here.

You're good. You are already scoring in the 99% in all four sections (I think - maybe not in bio or writing but certainly >95% in those), and so improving your score two points isn't going to do much. Medical schools really do not distinguish between a 38 and a 40 (after all, the difference between the two scores is literally three or four additional right answers on the test), and so the only good that will come from retaking is maybe stroking your ego. And what do you think the implicit message will be if med schools see that you took the MCAT again after getting a 38?

Your chances of getting into Baylor, assuming you are a decent human being with a couple unique personal qualities, are excellent, especially if you let them know they are unconditionally your first choice. Put the MCAT behind you and concentrate on applying. Good luck! 🙂
 
Thanks, RD. You're absolutely right. It's easy to get a little crazy about this stuff. I guess that I figure that I can use all the help I can get, considering that my grades were pretty low for my first two years. I'm also doing this as a non-traditional student, so I feel like I'm in a vacuum -- I don't know where anyone else is. I feel like everybody else has a 42 and a 3.9 and has been working in a lab since they were 6.
 
Aim for that 45 you can do it...schools love gunners. 😛

A higher MCAT means you'll become a better doctor and you can make more money with a higher MCAT, which equals a better looking mate, which equals better looking kids, which gives them better opportunities in life since they'll be so much better looking...which means they will have more chances to become doctors and get 45's on their MCATS.

So you see, do it again, do it for your kids; how your life turns out from mate to money to kids all are riding on you getting as close to 45 as possible...good luck.😉

P.S. I love these threads...makes me feel good about my low MCAT score...b/c i have activities and people outside of this process...befriend your Kaplan or Princeton instructor, maybe he/she can save you from yourself...😀
 
"Look, people. I promise that I am NOT a tool.

It's just that I am a tool. I am a tool. I am a tool."

Honestly, do you REALLY not have that little voice in your head that says "wait a minute here. . .think about what you are about to write"?

Judd
 
RD, it's nice that you replied with thought and all, but posters like this need nothing more than a swift kick in the ass. There is no need for any pleasantries here - they did fine, everyone knows they did fine, and even if their concern is sincern, it's out of delusion and not reality.

The OP did awesome on the MCAT and has an above average science GPA. That may not be enough to get him/her into Baylor, I don't know... but it's not like improving on a 38S MCAT will be the deciding factor.
 
To the OP........

F*ck off and jump over a cliff you pathetic, winey, mealy-mouthed, over-achieving piece of ****.
 
i'd like to know which practice tests you've been doing that reports scores above 40. i smell troll.
 
If you're serious, and I think you are...

Once you get an MCAT score in the mid to high thirties, any score increase becomes less significant. It doesn't matter if you score a 43 next time, having a low GPA cannot be compensated for by having a high MCAT score. GPAs and MCAT scores serve two different purposes. Having a strong GPA means you are able to MAINTAIN good grades and shows determination and committment. Having a solid MCAT score demonstrates you're able to handle the first two years in med school. Once your score reaches into the thirties range, you have already proven to adcoms you are capable, and having a 40 something instead of a 38 means little to nothing. Instead, since the problem is your GPA, not your MCAT score, if anything, the best thing to do would be to enter a post-bac program in order to achieve a strong graduate GPA apart from your undergrad GPA. But, in your case, you have a strong science GPA AND you mention having a significant upward trend, so doing a post-bac may not even be necessary. So...NO, I don't think you should retake the MCAT.

Good luck.
 
nothing validates a 38 like another 38. i suggest a retake.
 
Hey, yea,

Street Philosopher makes a damned good point. Official scoring tables only go up to 12's. That's 36. No reliable indicator could suggest that the OP is scoring in the 40's. I too smell a troll. A rotten, filthy, smelly troll.

Judd
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
The thing is, I really, really want to go to Baylor. Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades?

a higher score will not only compensate for your low grades, it will also compensate for your lack of a life.

have fun finding one.

enjoy the flames, you'll find no sympathy here.
 
:::Looks at person complaining about 38S:::

:::Looks at own 32R:::

:::Runs away crying:::

🙄
 
Not that I want to get into this, but Princeton Review's diagnostic tests go all the way up to 45.

I'm sorry that I seemed to have raised so much ire here. It wasn't intentional.
 
I'm a really big fan of this show.

Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
Not that I want to get into this, but Princeton Review's diagnostic tests go all the way up to 45.

I'm sorry that I seemed to have raised so much ire here. It wasn't intentional.
 
Originally posted by indyzx
RD, it's nice that you replied with thought and all, but posters like this need nothing more than a swift kick in the ass. There is no need for any pleasantries here - they did fine, everyone knows they did fine, and even if their concern is sincern, it's out of delusion and not reality.

I know, I just told her the reality, which is that she'll do fine. Sometimes it is difficult to look past the fact that you didn't do as well as you expected to, even though in reality you are still in great shape. I can relate to that feeling so I thought I would offer a helping hand.

And besides, no one deserves this trash:

Originally posted by Tamomo
To the OP........

F*ck off and jump over a cliff you pathetic, winey, mealy-mouthed, over-achieving piece of ****.

Try a swig of your own medicine, Tamomo.
 
MCAT can only compensate so much for low grades (though yours, by the way, sound fine esp. with the upward trend). There's not much difference between a 38 and a 40, in the eyes of adcoms. Once you get into the high 30's it's all pretty much equivalent for admissions purposes. Don't bother re-taking. You'll do fine and probably get into Baylor.
 
My impression of the Baylor folks is that they'll actually think LESS of you if you retake with a 38. Signs of insecurity, etc. They're really big on character over there (which is not a bad thing), and they tend to interpret things in ways you might not expect. You're probably good with a 38 and 3.5--what you need to "compensate" (if you can call it that), is a good personal statement, interview skills and a little bit of luck.
 
I don't get it.
 
Couple things no one has mentioned:

If your score goes down on the retake, then that is fairly bad. If your score goes up, that is marginally good, but not stellar. So you have more to lose than gain.

Lots of people score better on practice tests. There's no pressure, you're in a familiar setting, the material might be more fresh in your mind...etc. The fact that you scored lower on the real thing doesn't mean a whole lot. There are TONS of factors that you have no control over that will determine your score.

3.5 gpa is average for accepted students. Your MCAT is awesome. How about extra-curriculars? Are yours good? Non-traditional students tend to not participate in EC's as much, but I did meet a girl who was a single mom, is going to finish a double major in two years with a 3.9, and is loaded with fairly high quality EC's. I was amazed.
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades?

Are you URM?
 
Originally posted by Entei
I think you should take the MCAT again.

Take it for silver_eyes, so this way we won't have to hear her beg for advice and whine about how she only scored a 19. This way we can kill two annoying birds with one stone. 🙄

She scored a 19!!! (black cataracts...I mean silver eyes) Wow, that explains a lot.

Anyway, to the OP of this thread....come on now! Think about your score...then think about how many people have achieved that score. I'm sure you'll conclude that you are among the elite and that 2-3 pts will not make you better in the eyes of the adcom.

If you break down your scores categorically, then you'll realize that you're in the 99% in verbal, 98% in physical, and 96% in biological. Hmmmm....I would say those are pretty yummy stats!

If you want to take it then do so, but remember you won't get any sympathy from us if you don't improve or do worse. It's not that we're mean, but they're are a lot of people out there who would fast for a week to get your score.

Good luck getting into Baylor!🙂 (By the way your MCAT score is far above their average.)
 
guys i'm accepted to medical school, but i had 36+ on practice exams and i didn't get that on the real test. should i defer and take the mcat over so i can reach my full potential? thanks.
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky

The thing is, I really, really want to go to Baylor. Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades?

I'm going to respond to this part of your post only.

The truth is that while it's hard not to have a 'dream school' you should try not to set your heart on "just one school" or you are setting yourself up for heartache. Even had you scored a 45 on the MCAT nothing guarantees that any one school will accept you. So at this stage, by your numbers, you have a "good" chance at Baylor. Increasing your MCAT score, if you even can, will not improve those odds. There are no numbers that give guarantees.
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
. . .but should I retake the MCAT? This is going to sound like a really stupid question, and I swear I'm not looking for ego stroking. I got a 38S (13V/13P/12B), but I'd been getting over 40 on all of my practice tests.

I know that ordinarily it wouldn't matter, but I need it to compensate for some crappy grades. I have a 3.53 overall, with a lot of improvement, and a 3.84 science (4.0 if you don't count stupid calculus). I also have a lot of volunteering.

The thing is, I really, really want to go to Baylor. Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades?

end yourself stupid n00b
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LttlMssCrnky... your scores are great, your science gpa is great... just relax a little and you'll be fine... though tBw does bring up a good point that you probably should avoid having your heart set on any one particular school... nonetheless, you'll probably have a great shot at baylor and similar schools... oh, and ignore the flames... good luck!
 
goddamn you are one dumb f**ker. my grandmother did better than that and shes blind with one arm, and not even the good arm. sorry to be so insensitive but arent you a little embarassed claiming grades like that on sdn. took a lot of balls i bet. seriously though retake the stupid exam and do better. try a different test prep or something. if that doesnt work and you still would like to be a physician i would suggest going to school in the caribbeans. It still says M.D. I dont know if an O.D. school would except your low gpa and mcat. their standards are a bit higher than international. better yet i dont think you should waster your money, apply straight to carribs. They practically have an open admissions policy anyway.
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
I feel like everybody else has a 42 and a 3.9 and has been working in a lab since they were 6.

Where do you idiots come from? The full statistical workup of the exam has been available for a while, and they clearly report the percentage who have scored 42 or above. It's f*cking 0.0% rounded off to the nearest tenth of a percent. Yea, that's sure "everyone."

So you didn't score as well as you did in practice. Too bad. Get over yourself.

"I swear I'm not looking for ego stroking. Stroke my ego. Stroke my ego. Stroke my ego. Stroke my ego."
 
As other posters have suggested, this individual is almost certainly just trying to stir up trouble.

I would suggest people stop posting on this thread. Trolls like this just want our attention. His posting record (4 posts total) speaks for itself.
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
. . .but should I retake the MCAT? This is going to sound like a really stupid question, and I swear I'm not looking for ego stroking. I got a 38S (13V/13P/12B), but I'd been getting over 40 on all of my practice tests.

I know that ordinarily it wouldn't matter, but I need it to compensate for some crappy grades. I have a 3.53 overall, with a lot of improvement, and a 3.84 science (4.0 if you don't count stupid calculus). I also have a lot of volunteering.

The thing is, I really, really want to go to Baylor. Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades?

Yea take it over... the mcat isn't that hard anyway.
 
Originally posted by LttlMssCrnky
Not that I want to get into this, but Princeton Review's diagnostic tests go all the way up to 45.

I'm sorry that I seemed to have raised so much ire here. It wasn't intentional.

You should try HVAC school.
 
". . .but should I retake the MCAT? This is going to sound like a really stupid question, and I swear I'm not looking for ego stroking. I got a 38S (13V/13P/12B), but I'd been getting over 40 on all of my practice tests.

I know that ordinarily it wouldn't matter, but I need it to compensate for some crappy grades. I have a 3.53 overall, with a lot of improvement, and a 3.84 science (4.0 if you don't count stupid calculus). I also have a lot of volunteering.

The thing is, I really, really want to go to Baylor. Will a higher score do much to compensate for my below-par grades? "

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Originally posted by biffbuddy
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From under a bridge, presumably, where trolls tend to live.
 
if you retake, the adcoms will look at your scores and think, this person must have OCD. And throw your app in the waste basket...
 
la la la la stoopid thread
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la la la la stoopid thread
lost a brain cell today... HEY!

to the tune of Camptown Races! Everybody now!
 
Originally posted by deltamed
if you retake, the adcoms will look at your scores and think, this person must have OCD. And throw your app in the waste basket...

:laugh: roflmaosmdpus
 
Originally posted by deltamed
if you retake, the adcoms will look at your scores and think, this person must have OCD. And throw your app in the waste basket...

LMAO :laugh: ,
but seriously to the OP, I am sympathetic to you wanting to mitigate less than stellar grades (even though your GPA isn't bad at all) but I have to agree with the others, DON'T retake the MCAT, try to find some additonal way to impress adcomms with your intellectual prowess. Maybe take grad level science classes and ACE them. Or excell in something clinical, train to be an EMT or whatever...just don't beat a dead horse.
 
Never fear. Your current scores are going to get you interviews. The thing is here, you've got to make the ad coms think that they're getting a good deal when they choose you. Don't explain, don't re-take, just let your personality do the talking.

However, if you can't rely on your personality, you may want to have that 45.



🙄
 
There are people fighting for their lives in hospitals, starving to death on the streets, and who can't pay their bills. I do not know if this thread was a joke or not, but if the OD is serious, perhaps you need to take a walk through a pediatric ICU...then come back and tell me what is important in life. All of a sudden a 38 vs. 40 doesn't look all that important.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
Also note: you have managed to make a huge number of people on SDN think that you're arrogant and obnoxious. I'm not saying that you are--I'm just saying that a lot of people think this post was totally bogus. You obviously know that from reading the posts here.

You might want to think more along the lines of sincerity. If you come across pompus to the interviewers, then they aren't going to like it any more than the people here did. They, in fact, will like it even less because they'll have to put up with it for four years.

Open the package, add water, instant rejection.
 
if the op were asking for advice and had mcats near 30, would she be getting such a backlash? probably not, and here's the reason why: the immediate reaction to somebody who has scored better than you is to try and shoot them down ("troll", "stupid f*cker", etc.). you flamers' insecurity is seeping out of your pores like green pus--and everybody can smell it but yourselves.

many of the posts on this website are dedicated to providing a mirror for people who can't seem to see themselves in any sort of objective manner (like the prevalent "here are my stats, what are my chances" threads or the "help me decide where to go to med school" ones). here's to the herd! mooooooo!
 
RapidDecomposition, mvp44, jennie21, Samoa, dcpark74, tBw, shikantaza, Doc Ivy, ironey, and hobs:

Thank you so much for your genuine replies. I really appreciate it. Thanks for realizing that a somewhat high MCAT score doesn't exempt a person from the same worries and insecurities that everyone else has.

I'll be deleting this thread shortly, but I'd like to leave it up long enough to thank the people who were nice enough to give their advice.
 
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