IMG Internal Medicine Applicants - Match 2019

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  1. Samt93

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    Of course, visa is the core reason but besides that those were the other ones.
    Well, you are right, I am still not 100% sure with my ROL.
    Talking about the reputation of program and number of ivs, all of my top 3 have a good reputation and candidates get enough number of ivs even for competitive fellowships.
     
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    I think you can leave the "95% Texas AMGs" out of your comment and just say you didn't feel comfortable or click with the residents. Actually, 10% of the residents are IMGs. Not only is it a very diverse group of people, but I doubt you met the 150+ residents in the program to claim that 95% are from Texas. Please don't give any false information since this will remain public for future applicants.
     
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    Would you guys rank university affiliated community programs ahead of community?
     
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    I guess you need to reconsider your knowledge as BUMC ( it’s Dallas program and not Houston one) has only 14 seats per year so what made you count 150 residents I am not sure. Second thing, I know the program personally because I have worked there and they have taken only one IMG in last 7 years and you can check the residents list on website and see how many are from Texas medical schools, so even 95% is an underestimated figure.
    Now who has to delete his/her comment?!!? And no question about giving false information


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    no, that is his reasoning and i asked why and he answered the question.
    plus i think you did mix up the Dallas and Houston programs.
     
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    Mixed up programs. Neither one of those. Not a fan of acronyms, especially when the same one means multiple things haha. My bad!


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    Short answer: depends
    Long answer: depends

    Some uni are better than community, and some community are better than uni. need to be specific.
     
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    How about UAB - Montgomery vs. Advocate Masonic in Chicago?
     
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    If you're prioritizing location...it doesn't get much better than Advocate Masonic minus the absolute **** weather(currently colder than most places on earth; however). UAB-Montgomery is the better program. It depends what matters more to you. You're only going to get 1 day off per week. It doesn't really matter for most residents where we end up. If you have a family/significant other, I'd say location becomes more important. I am still unsure where I am putting AIMMC.
     
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    Yeah that's the conclusion I've also come to. I don't care as much about location as program quality, as much as I'd rather live in Chicago than Montgomery. But then I also know that I'll be a better resident if I'm happier in my environment, and Advocate has 16 residents vs. 7 in UAB so I'm more likely to get along with my colleagues. Still, I'll probably be going with UAB. Neither is in my top 3 though so it may be moot lol. Appreciate the response.
     
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    That's a good point. My #1 program is a smaller program. Advocate is ranked pretty highly for me because I have to think about my significant other and Chicago is just better for opportunities for individuals who are not in the medical field. We'll see. Maybe we'll even match together!!!
     
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    ROCHESTER GENERAL VS
    BRIDGEPORT YALE VS
    JACOBI VS
    BEAUMONT

    which one will you choose?
    besides looking for good fellowship placement and training, also looking for good location and life balance.
    in the fence between Hosp/cards. depending on visa
     
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    Jacobi.
     
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    It would be my honor.
     
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    It seems like everyone wants to do GI or Cards, it is going to be even crazier in 3 years to get a fellowship!

    On the bright side, interviews are officially finished for me! Wohoooooo, time to pray :)
     
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    Wow you guys have some impressive programs on your list! Congrats!

    Im looking into pursuing GI (so original I know) or Heme-Onc.
    Location is pretty important to me (hoping for New York)
    1-3 have in-house GI. 1 & 3 have in-house Heme-Onc as well.
    I'm having trouble ranking 6-9.
    I think I have top 5 and bottom 4 solidified but any feedback would still be appreciated!

    1. Maimonides Medical Center
    2. Montefiore Wakefield
    3. Brooklyn Hospital Center
    4. UPMC Mercy (have yet to go to my interview so this is tentative)
    5. Texas Tech University El Paso

    6. Memorial Health University Hospital (they matched GI this year and in the past; heme-onc for the first time this year)
    7. DMC Sinai Grace
    8. UCF Orlando
    9. Flushing Hospital Center (I know they match nephrology & pulm crit pretty well but does anyone know about heme-onc?)

    10. Hurley Medical Center
    11. Marshfield Clinic
    12. White River Health
    13. Southeast Alabama
     
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    I would go either to Yale, Beaumont or Rochester because of the things i have heard about Jacobi. I heard there is lot of scut work, no work life balance and its Bronx. Having interview in Jacobi, it wouldn't come in my top 10.
     
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    i get the same feeling with jacobi. Even though is "new york" Bronx is so shady and 40 mins away by train from all good nyc stuff. From the programs I had interviews, probable the one with best fellowships placement, but still...
     
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    Please help me rank!
    Considering hospitalist/cardiology :)

    1. Lankenau Medical center
    2. Rochester General Hospital
    3. Zucker school of medicine at Hofstra/Northwell in Staten Island
    4. Wayne state university
    5. Steward Carney Hospital
    6. Greenwich hospital
    7. Texas tech El Paso university
    8. Mercy hospital (St. Louis)
    9. St Vincent charity medical center
    10. University of Maryland PG hospital
    11. Flushing hospital
    12. St. Elizabeth Youngstown
     
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    I have interviewed at Texas Tech El
    Paso and Staten Island and personally I would switch them. Unless your basing it on location.
     
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    Thanks for your input! Can I ask you why el paso over staten island? is staten island not a good program?
     
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    Wow you've ranked Hurley in Flint above some other programs. How bad are 11,12, 13?
     
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    From what I learned during my interview day, Flushing never had hemonc. Even nephro is a luxury for them. And one of my interviewers deliberately lied about having a lot of residents matching to my specialty of interest though residents already told they never had one. So they are my second last. Last one is another NY program :))
     
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    11 is in wisconsin and the weather just seemed dreadful. And fellowship matching was not superior to hurley
    12 and 13 are both fairly new programs with no stats on fellowships
     
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    Oh wow, thats good to know. Thanks so much!
     
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    *Rank Order List/Caribbean Med Student*
    *Interested in Pulm/Crit or GI*
    *Not limited to any one location*

    1. LSU Shreveport
    2. Presence St. Joseph Chicago
    3. Hurley Medical Center
    4. AU/UGA Partnership
    5. UCF/HCA Ocala
    6. Advocate Illinois Masonic
    7. South Nassau Communities Hospital/Icahn School of Medixine (New)
    8. UPMC Mckeesport
    9. Health Quest (New)
    10. Mercy Hospital & Medical Center
    11. Kingsbrook Jewish
     
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    If you dont mind me asking, is there any particular reason Hurley is above Ocala, Advocate, etc?
     
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    Yeah, so I was thinking - more fellowship opportunities, "relatively" more research, they have EPIC (it's an indirect measure of access to resources). Sure Ocala and Advocate are in better locations.

    Those were my thoughts, anyone willing to chime in?
     
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    Flint had serious problems surrounding social deprivation, crime, funding and corruption. Along with Gary Indiana and Camden NJ it’s considered one of the most dangerous cities in the US. That being said I’m sure a lot of people working in the hospital commute in from the safer suburbs and have no issues.
     
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    guys after emailing ecfmg with your graduation certificate, how long before they release a pdf copy to programs?
     
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    wow, is it really 80% match rate into top 3? I thought the NRMP stats from last year put it closer to 50%.
     
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    There are no data in Charting Outcomes about where applicants fall on their rank list (the mythical 80% number mentioned above). The data you quote are not about the percentage of applicants matching in their Top 3 but rather "contiguous ranks". This means that if you rank 3 programs, you have a 50% chance of matching.

    It's possible those numbers aren't too far off from each other, but they're not strictly the same data points.
     
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    It gets updated automatically. If you go to ERAS and check your ECFMG status, it should have the updated date.
     
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    Just a heads up that this isn't entirely accurate. The below document, put out by the NRMP, highlights this in Figure 7 on pg. 41.

    https://mk0nrmpcikgb8jxyd19h.kinsta...s/2018/04/Main-Match-Result-and-Data-2018.pdf
     
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    Thanks. I missed that and was looking at the Charting Outcomes data but not the main match results.

    It does support the hypothesis (which, to my credit, I did suggest could be reasonable) that the intersection of the two data sets was close to each other.

    The linked data above doesn't break out IMGs vs DOs. And it's important to note the difference between matching in your top 3 overall vs matching in your top 3 if you matched at all (which is probably the more relevant statistic for this thread).

    Bottom line, if you match, as IMG or otherwise, you've got ~75-80% chance of matching in your Top 3. Overall, for non-AMGs it's more like 50%. And it needs to be pointed out that this is for the Match as a whole, not for IM specifically.

    So, we can all be right, and wrong, and find it all basically irrelevant.
     
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    Any one interview at Toledo? I liked it but at dinner one of the residents said you’re not guaranteed a fellowship spot. I know you’re never guaranteed but most of the cards match went elsewhere. Only one internal applicant in cards over last three years. For gi, they take lots of internals. Is it a good thing that they are run by a corporation, Promedica? Thanks
     
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    That's also true. I'm not an IMG/FMG, but I would assume that with the nrmp now distinguishing between the types of independent applicants, they will eventually break down the data even further.
     
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    Hey y'all!
    I'm applying to IM and I have no idea how to rank these 3:

    Lenox hill
    Staten island university hospital
    Medical city fort worth.

    I'm interested in doing GI later down the line - all 3 programs have GI fellowships which I'm told is important for someone that wants to do GI.

    While I think lenox hill and SIUH are better programs than Medical city, I can't help but wonder if I'll have any time to do research in the NY programs due to all the scut work. I would also prefer to stay in the south, but not if it means decreasing my chances of doing GI.

    Any input would be great!
     
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    Exactly as they're written. But I'd much rather be in NY than Texas, so I may be biased.
     
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    yeah my bad, you're right, I just realized I made a mistake, those with more interviews might be more likely to be ranked higher into their top 3 compared to those with just 3 interviews total, maybe they're more competitive, maybe there's a higher chance of having a connection at the program hence ranking those programs higher etc. who knows
     
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    Hi guys! Here's my ROL, I'm pretty certain on my top 2, but would greatly appreciate some input on the 3-6 ranks.
    I'm a DO who needs visa, wants to do fellowships in the future, but really haven't decided on a particular one yet, I found cardio, pulm/cc, heme/onc, and rheum interesting. Thank you!!!!

    1)Univ South Florida
    2)Loyola Univ
    3)U of AZ-Phoenix
    4)CWRU-Metrohealth
    5)Albany Medical center (my PD urged me to rank Albany #3)
    6)Methodist Houston (great place but I didn't like one of my interviewer, he seems very disinterested and borderline rude)
    7)Icahn SOM Beth Israel NY
    8)Loma Linda Univ (another univ, but their board pass rate is surprisingly low, I think 78%?)
    9)AZ St Joseph
    10)AZ Maricopa
    11)OR Legacy Emmanuel
     
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    Wow some great programs! Think your list is pretty good. 3-6 I'd go with which areas you like. I wouldn't worry about the board pass rates too much. Loma Linda is a very good program that I would rank higher. I would also rank Icahn higher.
     
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    Regardless of your ties to KU you’d be crazy not to rank bayview #1, by a long shot. Albeit a community program is at the same level of prestige as many mid tier academic programs (of which I wouldn’t necessarily label KU)
     
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    Hey everyone.Any opinions for University of Toledo primary care vs University of Nevada primary care?..confused between both of them
     
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    Any comment on
    Mt Sinai SLW vs Cook County hospital?
     
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    both are mostly the same in terms of fellowship placement and amount of work.
    choose between Chicago and New York
     
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    Both are excellent programs. I like NYC > Chicago so I have MSSLW as #1 and Cook county as #2. My friend likes Chicago > NYC and has Cook county as #1 with MSSLW as #2.
     
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    I personally think you should look at it in the long term. Do you want to practice in the east coast or the midwest in the future? Fellowship do take geographic location into consideration. If you spend three years in NY, you will most likely end up somewhere in the East coast for your fellowship.
     

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