IMG Internal Medicine Applicants - Match 2019

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  1. desperate one

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    Just want to also ask before I finalize my rank order list. In general,
    1. Drexel
    2. Albany Medical Center
    3. SUNY Downstate

    Would that be right order if I would pursue training quality, fellowship match and less scutwork?
     
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    yes
     
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  3. Outsider100

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    Hey guys, I would appreciate any input in terms of ranking the following programs:

    UPMC - Mercy
    UCSF - Fresno
    Jersey Shore University Medical Center
    Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
    Hackensack - Palisades
    Wright Center for Graduate Medical Education Program
    AU/UGA Medical Partnership

    I have no geographical limitations, I want to base my decision solely on the program.

    Appreciate all the input :)
     
  4. qPCR

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    Since you are willing to move to different state, I would move UTSA to the number one. Good luck in the match! ;)
     
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    Would appreciate any input on Penn Hospital -v- UofA Tuscon -v- UofA Phoenix.......

    Thanks
     
  6. yurtboat

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    If you want Cali long term then UCSF Fresno 1 otherwise it's a toss up between there and UPMC
     
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    Anyone?
     
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    Looks good in this order. Personally I would switch 3rd and 4th since buffalo is not that great of a place to live for 3 years...
     
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    I would pick JSUMC over UPMC Mercy anyday.
     
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    Finalizing my ROL. Still unable to decide which one to put first: Albany or SLR. Any thought is appreciated.
     
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    Please, guys! Trying again
    Any thoughts about

    Uconn
    U of Miami/JMH

    Looking for Cards/GI/Pulm&Crit

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Look at their respective histories of matching competitive fellowships. Also research opportunities. Both have your fellowships of choice so that's a plus. If these factors are relatively equal, I'd say Miami gets the edge for location and weather but that's just me. You should also account for the vibe you got, like did you like the residents or culture of the program? I know Jackson is one of the busiest hospitals in the country so your workload will not be light. They also have an excellent cardiology program.

    At the end of the day, these are both established university programs that will not limit you in the pursuit of your future goals. You can go with either one and still be okay. But personally, it would be tough for me to turn down warm weather, Cuban food, and South Beach. One of the reasons I'm ranking FAU ahead of more established programs lol. Good luck.
     
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    Thankyou!
     
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    What you have said about Mount Sinai SLR vs Bridgeport is definitely true.
    However if given a choice between Chicago vs NYC, I would pick Chicago because of family. That is the only reason I think of ranking Cook County higher than SLR. Bridgeport I did not get 100% satosfaction on my interview day and did not exactly like their structure and schedule.
    Thanks for the help!
     
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    Done with my ROL.
    My priorities were: 1. location (family) 2. training, fellowship opportunities + research. Hope to match with my top 3.

    Good luck guys!!! We are almost there :))
     
  16. drwaluigi

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    do you think we'll end up in our top 3? as imgs?
     
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    I hope so! :)
     
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  18. MoLarryKerlyBLine

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    Based on the nrmp data, it doesn't seem like there's too much of a difference between AMGs and IMGs when it comes to matching top 3.
     
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    Why would you pick JSUMC over UPMC mercy?
     
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    Any thoughts on the Yale-Waterbury program? Currently it's in the middle of my ROL because of the Yale name. Would appreciate any informed input about repute of the program. Thanks!
     
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    Did anyone interview at Orange Regional in Middletown, NY for Internal Medicine? I can't find its NRMP code in the program directory on NRMP & its not listed in myEras
     
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    You wouldn't. They're pretty equivalent programs, but the opportunity to work with actual UPMC faculty would give Mercy the edge for me.
     
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    For me its about the opportunities, scheduling, newer facilities and a lot more friendly. Also close to home. I love pittsburgh but the PD was weird, and Mercy was outdated with less opportunities.
     
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    METHODIST HOUSTON
    JACKSON MEMORIAL
    U MISSOURI- COLUMBIA

    Want to do cards fellowship, need visa
     
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    Non US IMG, need visa but I am ok with J1. Interested in Pulm/ccm and maybe cards. Would rather to be in big cities ( or closeby) and warmer climate.
    1- U Miami JMH
    2- UTMB
    3- Rutgers NJMS
    4- UConn
    5- U of Oklahoma
    6- Methodist Houston
    7- Einstein Philly
    8- Pennsylvania Hospital
    9- Jacobi
    10- Cook County
    11- UIC Advocate Christ
    12- Case Western Metrohealth
    13- Bridgeport Yale
    14- Norwalk Yale
    15- Medstar Baltimore

    What do you guys think of that ROL?
     
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    Nice list! But why Metrohealth is that low in your rank list?
     
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    Guys can anyone give me some insight into henry ford macomb?
     
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    COL = cost of living
    If you're flexible about moving and don't need a visa, I would rank UTSA as your #1. Good luck!
     
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    Would love some help ranking the following....

    Richmond University Staten Island, NY
    West Suburban Medical Oak Park, IL
    Monmouth Medical Center Long Branch, Nj
     
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    I need help with ranking some of my programs:
    Norwalk hospital- free housing, in house GI and pulm/crit, Yale affiliate
    Mount Auburn-great for hospitalist, Harvard affiliation
    Yale Waterbury- Yale affiliation

    Any help will be appreciated
     
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    Can’t really comment much on those but would bet mt Auburn is the best of the 3. Side note school of affiliation is irrelevant for strength of a community program. These programs should be evalated on their own merits and I see especially with less informed posters (not necessarily you) putting too much stock in this
     
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    Community hospital, didn't seem like there was any opportunity to rotate at the main facility. Didn't not furnish a copy of their recent fellowship matches, which is usually suspect. Also, the interview day was done very poorly, which left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. That being said, their facilities were very nice, and seemed as if it was in a decent neighborhood. However, ultimately not choosing to rank them.
     
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    I worked with a chief resident from Henry Ford Macomb last summer. That Person did not match into a fellowship and said main Hospital does not recognize Macomb as one of their own. I was told there are a lot better programs. That was resident was brutally honest. Just some insight.
     
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    Is it just or me, or is anyone else thinking that while the last 5 months literally flew by, that these next 32 days will be incredibly slow?
     
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    Can I ask your opinion about why Mount Auburn is a good option?
     
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    Definitely not just you.
     
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    Did anyone get a personalized email from Mercy In Chicago? I got a generic thank you note.
     
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    Just thought I’d share my ROL list and my reasoning behind each program. I hope it helps someone and the next class! I am a USIMG and you can go through my posts and look at my stats. I have two fellowships in mind. I have been pretty much set on GI because I worked closely with GI docs before going to med school but I also really like Hemeonc and did a lot of research in sickle cell anemia internationally. I have a very strong NE bias because of my SO and family. Strong Clinical training and teaching is also very important to me. I also factored in overall fit and vibe

    1) UPMC global health track (location and the best opportunities, love Pittsburgh and got along well with the residents)
    2) Yale PC track (difficult because of the PC track but still gives me the best opportunities on my list).
    3) Cooper (in house fellowships and strong clinical training, close enough to Pennsylvania but not the best reputation tho and weird interveiw day)
    4) Drexel (location and in house fellowships, also really like philly)
    5) Pennsylvania Hospital (not the best but heme onc fellowship match is great because they have well known hemeonc faculty, also my best interview day. Seemed like a great fit for me)
    Northwell Staten Island (just seemed like it would be great for family life and got along well with residents)
    Jersey shore (really liked my interview day and got along well with everyone)
    Newark Beth Israel (great interview day)
    UCONN (great place but wiill only go to Connecticut because of Yale)
    Jacobi (again nyc. No. But OK reputation for fellowships and just got approval for hemeonc fellowship).

    Random order after this. Needed to fill up ROL
    Bridgeport Yale
    Washington hospital center
    St Barnabas NJ

    Thought of DNR but I’m IMG so I don’t want to take any chances of going unmatched.
    Downstate
    Elmhurst queens
    Icahn Beth Israel


    By December, I had gone on a lot and researched a lot so I cancelled about 14 other interviews based on location, fatigue and just really trying not to overdo it. I probably should have gone to some like UPMC mercy but oh well.

    Pls ignore the bad grammar and poor format. I’m hungry. Wishing everyone the best!
     
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    May I ask why Downstate is so low on the list? I think being a university program still it gives an edge over most other non-university community programs.
     
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    I understand my list might not make sense but I factored in a lot of things. For example pennsy is above some Uni programs on my list but I loved it there.
    So yeah, I don’t really want to be in NY, and downstate is not worth going to NY for me. My interview day was not great and I know downstate pretty well. It’s not the program for me.
     
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    Yeah I understand, otherwise love your list. I can only talk about Drexel and Staten Island among decent ones you put up and liked both interviews there. I thought either place will train you well. Best of luck this interview season, as a fellow IMG, really wish you will land your top 3!!!
     
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    Thank you! I wish you all the best and hope you match to one of your top 3 too! :)
     
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    This is an amazing rank list! I wish you all the best
     
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    Thank you! I wish you all the best too!

    And by the way, I hope we can all post where we end up matching. This thread has really been helpful to most of us IMGs. Let’s all share our journeys to encourage others. :)
     
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    I want an H1B...what would you suggest.
    putting ROCHESTER GENERAL upper than JMH- U Miami and U of Missouri (both only J1)?
    or putting the uni ones upper in my ROL

    not really sure if that will hurt in the future for fellowship
     
  46. DoctorInTheMaking14

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    I got a generic one also.
     
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    Congrats on your list! I wish you all the best. I love that you went by best fit rather than just rank it by best program you have. I have been fighting with what I should do vs what I really want. I really really want to go to a brand new affiliated program but I know doing that over 4 University programs would be laughed at. Not that I care about being judged, just dont want to regret it.
     
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    Hi everyone. After completing all the interviews I am done with my ROL! I wanted to share this list because it may help people who are applying next year, but also because my case is very particular. Hands down the most important factor on deciding how to rank was location. I am heavily biased because my spouse already has an academic career and moving would mean having to start all over. And if we were to move, it would have to be where we would both be happy. Also, I don't have any intention on doing fellowship. I'm interested in general medicine, so after being counseled by my mentors, it was clear that I would receive well-rounded clinical training wherever I end up. Other major factors were programs with a social mission and serving underserved populations. Having said that, would be happy anywhere on my list.

    1. Boston Medical Center (PC and Cat)
    2. BIDMC (PC and Cat)
    3. St. Elizabeth's Medical Center
    4. Mt. Auburn Hospital (PC and Cat)
    5. NYU (PC and Cat)
    6. Montefiore Moses (PC and Cat)
    7. Icahn Mt. Sinai SLR (PC and Cat)
    8. SUNY downstate
    9. Jacobi Medical Center
    10. Yale Categorical
    11. UPMC Categorical
    12. Georgetown/Washington Hospital Center
    13. UPMC Mercy
    14. Cook County
    15. UM/JFK Palm Beach

    I know it can be hard to rank certain prestigious programs below other mid-tier programs, but marriage >> prestige. Hope this gives another perspective! Good luck to everyone and hope we can all get our top choices!
     
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    The rationale checks out! Awesome list and I hope you get the program you want! Surprised not to see Cleveland Clinic on your list -_-
     
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    There are a few programs after #15 (including CCF), but due to difficulties for S/O, not stating them here. I will be ranking them though!
     
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