Impaired student and your rights to remain in school?

[GymMan]

My very good friend has an alcohol problem (well he uses it as a trump card when he needs to bail from a job, school, etc.) and was diagnosed with severe depression subsequent to this. He is to begin DPM school. I asked a DC school this and they claim, it would be case by case dealt with if it arose. If the stress caused him to go this way from undergrad won't it affect his grad schooling more under MORE intense pressure? This is what I worry about and told him, as he was a buddy I spent alot of partying time with too. God forbid I end up this way after having an alcohol family history myself (mom died from alcoholism) and having drank quite a bit to enjoy life too. This is a weird situation but nonetheless concerning. Will a school allow you to begin then take a leave if in need of treatment, as stress causes a relapse in wanting to destress through drinking and escaping problems. He has only a short time til he begins. I'd have a short time to begin DC school also in this same boat. We used bodybuilding to try to correct this lifestyle, but for how long it maintains is anyone's guess. He has gone to AA but didn't like it. I never went to AA but can use drinking as a way to chill, if I'm really stressed or annoyed.

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[PJAG]

My very good friend has an alcohol problem (well he uses it as a trump card when he needs to bail from a job, school, etc.) and was diagnosed with severe depression subsequent to this. He is to begin DPM school. I asked a DC school this and they claim, it would be case by case dealt with if it arose. If the stress caused him to go this way from undergrad won't it affect his grad schooling more under MORE intense pressure? This is what I worry about and told him, as he was a buddy I spent alot of partying time with too. God forbid I end up this way after having an alcohol family history myself (mom died from alcoholism) and having drank quite a bit to enjoy life too. This is a weird situation but nonetheless concerning. Will a school allow you to begin then take a leave if in need of treatment, as stress causes a relapse in wanting to destress through drinking and escaping problems. He has only a short time til he begins. I'd have a short time to begin DC school also in this same boat. We used bodybuilding to try to correct this lifestyle, but for how long it maintains is anyone's guess. He has gone to AA but didn't like it. I never went to AA but can use drinking as a way to chill, if I'm really stressed or annoyed.

Pathetic......tell ur friend to seek help for his depression/alcohol issues or pursue another career that will be less stressful.

 

[GymMan]

Pathetic......tell ur friend to seek help for his depression/alcohol issues or pursue another career that will be less stressful.

I'm thinking of applying to DPM instead. He isn't pathetic. He's a great friend and doesn't drink that much unless he really gets woundup. I can't stay with him then. I'm a light weight but I'm sure you had a few growing up, yes? If not, damn that's strange.

 

[alpha62]

I'm thinking of applying to DPM instead. He isn't pathetic. He's a great friend and doesn't drink that much unless he really gets woundup. I can't stay with him then. I'm a light weight but I'm sure you had a few growing up, yes? If not, damn that's strange.

I suggest you attend an Alanon meeting. You're already sounding like an enabling co-dependent.

Ask the guy if he's got ADD too, because he'll use it to get a couple extra hours to complete all his exams and boards.

What's next, a Surgical Residency for the Blind ?

 

[GetnMyFtNtheDor]

I think your "friend" is you. I think the alkie. I think you need to stay away from podiatry

 

[MaseratiGT]

I posted a few minutes ago, in ANOTHER asinine thread of yours, that I THOUGHT you were a troll. I take that back. You are a troll, man.

 

[ProZackMI]

My very good friend has an alcohol problem (well he uses it as a trump card when he needs to bail from a job, school, etc.) and was diagnosed with severe depression subsequent to this. He is to begin DPM school. I asked a DC school this and they claim, it would be case by case dealt with if it arose. If the stress caused him to go this way from undergrad won't it affect his grad schooling more under MORE intense pressure? This is what I worry about and told him, as he was a buddy I spent alot of partying time with too. God forbid I end up this way after having an alcohol family history myself (mom died from alcoholism) and having drank quite a bit to enjoy life too. This is a weird situation but nonetheless concerning. Will a school allow you to begin then take a leave if in need of treatment, as stress causes a relapse in wanting to destress through drinking and escaping problems. He has only a short time til he begins. I'd have a short time to begin DC school also in this same boat. We used bodybuilding to try to correct this lifestyle, but for how long it maintains is anyone's guess. He has gone to AA but didn't like it. I never went to AA but can use drinking as a way to chill, if I'm really stressed or annoyed.

If this really is your veiled attempt at asking for help, PM me. If you're at a college or university, you need to make an appointment with a professional in the counseling center immediately. If you're not affiliated with a school, there are local CMH centers in your county that help with substance abuse issues, especially younger people with EtOH problems.

Self-medicating now leads to chronic impairment in the future. There are many health professionals in tx for drug addiction and alcoholism (DA&A). Many of them are chiros. If your "friend" is thinking about pod school, four years of intense studying is going to exacerbate his stress and cause decompensation and breakdown. If he completes his degree, how will he manage through residency? Also, in his line of work, he could pose a clear and present danger to his patients. Someone like that is a danger to the general public.

I'm being honest and serious. You really need help. Please get it before it's too late and you ruin your chance for any career.

 

[Feli]

... pursue another career that will be less stressful....

Exactly^^

I'm not making fun of you for having substance problems, but you will be better off in another field. Many doctors who had no prior problems develop substance problems due to high stress, so going in with problems already is really tempting fate, don't you agree? It'd be like a guy with a bit of a gambling problem moving to Las Vegas.

 

[ProZackMI]

My very good friend has an alcohol problem (well he uses it as a trump card when he needs to bail from a job, school, etc.) and was diagnosed with severe depression subsequent to this. He is to begin DPM school. I asked a DC school this and they claim, it would be case by case dealt with if it arose. If the stress caused him to go this way from undergrad won't it affect his grad schooling more under MORE intense pressure? This is what I worry about and told him, as he was a buddy I spent alot of partying time with too. God forbid I end up this way after having an alcohol family history myself (mom died from alcoholism) and having drank quite a bit to enjoy life too. This is a weird situation but nonetheless concerning. Will a school allow you to begin then take a leave if in need of treatment, as stress causes a relapse in wanting to destress through drinking and escaping problems. He has only a short time til he begins. I'd have a short time to begin DC school also in this same boat. We used bodybuilding to try to correct this lifestyle, but for how long it maintains is anyone's guess. He has gone to AA but didn't like it. I never went to AA but can use drinking as a way to chill, if I'm really stressed or annoyed.

Bodybuilding usually is connected to steroid abuse, which is also prevalent among chiropractors. Do you know what long-term steroid use can do your perfect body?

1) hair loss
2) testicular atrophy
3) gynomastia (makes your boobies get big)
4) eventual loss of muscle tissue
5) diabetes

Must I go on? Get the picture? Working out is one thing, but serious body-building often leads to EPIC FAIL.

 

[MaseratiGT]

 

[Feli]

Bodybuilding usually is connected to steroid abuse, which is also prevalent among chiropractors...

Is it also prevalent among physical therapists, or do they all just have way more time to lift weights than I do lately?

 

[alpha62]

If this really is your veiled attempt at asking for help, PM me. If you're at a college or university, you need to make an appointment with a professional in the counseling center immediately. If you're not affiliated with a school, there are local CMH centers in your county that help with substance abuse issues, especially younger people with EtOH problems.

Self-medicating now leads to chronic impairment in the future. There are many health professionals in tx for drug addiction and alcoholism (DA&A). Many of them are chiros. If your "friend" is thinking about pod school, four years of intense studying is going to exacerbate his stress and cause decompensation and breakdown. If he completes his degree, how will he manage through residency? Also, in his line of work, he could pose a clear and present danger to his patients. Someone like that is a danger to the general public.

I'm being honest and serious. You really need help. Please get it before it's too late and you ruin your chance for any career.

I am considerably more afraid of the american public and the misery they can create than any impaired physician I've ever worked for... and I've worked for plenty of them in the last 20 years.

 

[UW66]

where do these people come from lol. goodgrief.

 

[PJAG]

I'm thinking of applying to DPM instead. He isn't pathetic. He's a great friend and doesn't drink that much unless he really gets woundup. I can't stay with him then. I'm a light weight but I'm sure you had a few growing up, yes? If not, damn that's strange.

Yes he is pathetic for abusing alcohol to remedy his issues......and ur lame for attempting to reason his or "your" problems....What is the significance of "I'm sure you had a few growing up, yes"?......Let me put it this way, I don't abuse alcohol as an excuse/remedy for depression.

 

[Paulywog]

I'm thinking of applying to DPM instead. He isn't pathetic. He's a great friend and doesn't drink that much unless he really gets woundup. I can't stay with him then. I'm a light weight but I'm sure you had a few growing up, yes? If not, damn that's strange.

I never had a few, and damn I am not that strange. It never was intriguing to me. I never saw the point. I never needed alcohol to relax or to have a good time. Sorry man! I am quite healthy and am in control of myself because of it. I have seen too many people dependant on habit-forming substances and I tried to avoid those. I don't find that strange, rather smart.

 

[Buspar]

There is never an excuse for drinking excessively. All of your posts seem depressive in tone and I would seriously advise you to seek help and take care of yourself first before you enter pod. school with the hopes of taking care of others...

 

[184013]

"Alright brain, I don't like you and you don't like me - so let's just get this over with so I can go back to killing you with beer."
- Homer Simpson

Powerhouse,
I am a huge fan of the 'man up' process....which involves taking ownership for your actions.
Your 'friend' at this point clearly understands he has a problem and therefore understands that his actions place limitations on his lifestyle. The initial step would be for him to seek help and get treatment.
There is no reason on earth why someone should be given assistance to go through school because they are an alcoholic... if there was I could assure you many more students would be 'alcoholics'. It does not benefit the individual, the school, the profession, the patients or the American public - it only benefits someone's lack of self discipline to arrange priorities of work. Then again I'm not a big fan of entitlement or living on hope...
The previous posters are right that if you are an alcoholic you have other priorities that need work other then starting a 7 year commitment that will induce a lot of stress and hardships that are not yet ready to be dealt with. On the flip-side if your friend even opted to attend school without treating his problem he lacks the maturity to help others if he hasn't first helped himself.
I have been viewing the posts that you have generated and I truly think that you desire to be a DC ....and I hope your friend gets off the wagon.
Here is a great place for you to go and possible learn more about your future profession as a DC - good luck!
http://www.chiroweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/dcs_only/Ultimate.cgi

-Cheers

"Here's to cheating, stealing, fighting, and drinking....
- If you cheat, may you cheat death
- If you steal, may you steal a woman's heart
- If you fight, may you fight for a brother
- And if you drink, may you drink with me!"

 

[spooge]

We should all just have a beer or six(teen) and talk about the good-ole days in the Navy. You remember way back in the days when we were young bucks? You remember that one time we were flying chase and blew a tire on landing? G-d I loved corpus. Whatever happened to the T-34?

 

[215512]

sorry to be off topic but what is the definition of a troll? I'm new to forums so I haven't heard this reference except for the one under the bridge not letting the goats across...thanks