(In)appropriate dress code for OMM?

[OnMyWayThere]

---

Members do not see this ad.

There seems to be something wrong with the 2nd picture on this website http://www.corpp.org/artikel/Photos/detail093112.jsp?msf=

 

[dr.z]

Wonder what school this is from.

 

[tkim]

Hagopian is in one of the pics.

 

[Dr Sum Day]

There seems to be something wrong with the 2nd picture on this website http://www.corpp.org/artikel/Photos/detail093112.jsp?msf=

wow, not expecthing that

 

[BayesianDoc]

Germany.

Our OMM Chair at PCOM teaches many foreign MDs OMM. Sometimes he goes to Europe sometimes they come to PCOM. He said that many times they strip down to nothing until he tells them it really isn't needed. In second picture 3 guys wearing bikini briefs. I find that unusual as in this country 1 or 2 are bound to wear boxers or tighty whities.

 

[HunterGatherer]

I was trying to figure out what was "wrong" with that pic. Guys wearing hip/bikini briefs are really that big a deal? Maybe I am too New York now. lol.

 

[OSUdoc08]

There seems to be something wrong with the 2nd picture on this website http://www.corpp.org/artikel/Photos/detail093112.jsp?msf=

Ok.

 

[tkim]

Get over it. Your'e going to be a doctor.

I think OMWT was refering to the undergarments that some of the women were wearing which absolutely does not look like the standard sports bras and gym shorts that is dress code for OMM lab.

I think you need to refrain from making such judgemental remarks.

 

[Globus P]

The site is indeed European - Belgium and Germany. These are European Osteopath, very different from US Osteopaths.

 

[tkim]

The site is indeed European - Belgium and Germany. These are European Osteopath, very different from US Osteopaths.

Actually, I recognize one of the instructors as a USDO.

 

[Megalofyia]

Actually, I recognize one of the instructors as a USDO.

The pasty skin, the strange hair cuts, they are all healthy weights, you only see teeth in one but based on all of this I'm going with one of the instructors flew to Europe or a bunch of Europeans flew to the states.

 

[cfdavid]

I know this is immature, but look at the last picture. The dude behind the woman looks like he's rather enjoying himself (potential sportation of wood??)

 

[jbone]

Hell yea, sign me up 😛 ! Do european DO schools post strong, competative board scores?? J/K

 

[BATiger]

I've never had to strip down to a sports bra and shorts for omm, we just wear sweats and t shirts

 

[OSUdoc08]

I've never had to strip down to a sports bra and shorts for omm, we just wear sweats and t shirts

For our school:

First couple of weeks in class, everyone has to strip down to their sports bra and shorts (no bra for guys, of course).

If anything, it lets you get over being shy, because noone wants a shy doctor.

 

[Taus]

For our school:

First couple of weeks in class, everyone has to strip down to their sports bra and shorts (no bra for guys, of course).

If anything, it lets you get over being shy, because noone wants a shy doctor.

same thing goes for PCOM...

 

[Tellorn]

I've never had to strip down to a sports bra and shorts for omm, we just wear sweats and t shirts

My school is the same. Many times people come in jeans and t-shirts.

 

[OSUdoc08]

My school is the same. Many times people come in jeans and t-shirts.

We are required to wear scrub pants.

 

[nrddct]

I didn't know there were DO schools outside of the US. I always thought the DO degree was invalid in other countries.

 

[VentdependenT]

I dunno what the big deal is. We did our omm naked....and drunk.

 

[stoic]

you know i honestly don't know what the big deal is. people get WAYYY to hung up about being naked. and these people aren't even naked! that's how our standardized patients dress at KU. obviously we don't learn OMM, but i can imagine that extra clothes would just make it hard.

i'm with osudoc on this: get over it. we're gonna ask our patients to expose themselves, yet we are unwilling to show what is basically the equiviant of a bathing suit to our classmates?

it's just the body people; in and of itself there is nothing sexual about it. the ridiculousness of our society has convinced people otherwise, and it's dumb. ya'll should care a lot less about being seen naked. if it wouldn't get me banned from the site, i'd post a nude picture of myself right now to prove the point.

 

[Megalofyia]

you know i honestly don't know what the big deal is. people get WAYYY to hung up about being naked. and these people aren't even naked! that's how our standardized patients dress at KU. obviously we don't learn OMM, but i can imagine that extra clothes would just make it hard.

i'm with osudoc on this: get over it. we're gonna ask our patients to expose themselves, yet we are unwilling to show what is basically the equiviant of a bathing suit to our classmates?

it's just the body people; in and of itself there is nothing sexual about it. the ridiculousness of our society has convinced people otherwise, and it's dumb. ya'll should care a lot less about being seen naked. if it wouldn't get me banned from the site, i'd post a nude picture of myself right now to prove the point.

Last time I showed someone my stomach they went blind for a couple of weeks. Therefore my nudity, while it doesnt' bother me, would interfer with the learning of my classmates.

 

[Megalofyia]

I didn't know there were DO schools outside of the US. I always thought the DO degree was invalid in other countries.

The DOs in other countries aren't earning the same degree. They are only learning OMM not medicine.

 

[fullefect1]

I know this is immature, but look at the last picture. The dude behind the woman looks like he's rather enjoying himself (potential sportation of wood??)

Haha.. that gave me my laugh for the day.

 

[hyperbaric]

I dunno what the big deal is. We did our omm naked....and drunk.

I thought that was a party.... 😕

 

[cadoctobe]

although i'm fully devoted to the study of medicine, and i'm in pretty good shape, if they told me i had to wear my underwear in OMM i'm not sure i'd be able to handle it. oh yeah by the way...for the pelvic exam next year you'll be using each other too...YEAH RIGHT!!!
as a side note...can you guys share how your OMM department works? when/how do your labs work, how long are lectures, how is (if at all) the material in the lecture related to the work done in lab...etc. i'm having a tough time with how the material is being presented on exams (and so is the rest of my class) and i was wondering if anyone had suggestions on things that make the practice of OMM easier. i'll just say this...this week we had an OMM exam (our second of the year) and there were terms on that thing that i hadn't seen before!! i'm thinking if i get some good ideas from other schools about how to improve our situation i may be able to take it to my class, and then to the department and make some changes. i'm thinking OMM should NOT be the class we're most concerned about failing considering we have plenty of others to worry about too! thanks so much in advance for your imput.

There seems to be something wrong with the 2nd picture on this website http://www.corpp.org/artikel/Photos/detail093112.jsp?msf=

 

[Taus]

It's a shame that OMM, or any class for that matter, is taught in such a way that the majority at your class cannot grasp it. You might want to check out the book "OMT Review" by Savarese. It has been very helpful for my practical exams, as far as naming dysfunctions and further explaining the functional anatomy. If you can understand the basics of what you're doing and why you're doing it, that is not too bad in my opinion. I'm assuming that you are an MSI, so functional anatomy is all OMM has been so far, as we haven't started treating yet, just finding normal/abnormal somatic function.

Regarding the written exams, our first one is coming up this week, and from what I have heard, it sounds like what you have described above. There is a lot of minutia and other details from the foundations reading that most of us will not deem important. The important point to remember here is that if your entire class is having trouble with it, and the average is low, you have nothing to worry about. When rankings come out later down the road, and you have all had to struggle on the same brutal exams, scores are down for everyone, not just you.

Hopefully this was somewhat helpful. I always find it to be such a shame when I hear recent graduates who can't use OMM because they never really learned the basics and did not become proficient at it. For some people, just being able to coast and fake your way through the practicals is the path of least resistance, so they will do just that. I know that I may never be amazing at OMM, but I think as long as I come out knowing a few treatments for common problems such as back pain and headaches, and increased diagnostic ability, I will be satisfied.

 

[BayesianDoc]

Hey Taus it does not get any better next year. Honestly I don't even listen to a word Alex says. I would rather read Foundations than listen to him. I prefer Evan's teaching style over Alex's but he is tough on practicals. The Dr. Kuchera while he talks above your level many times if you preread it is much easier. For your OMM exam study Savarese, and Back tests. You may not get the best grade but if you know Savarese down pat you'll at least know a little about OMM and be familiar with the board material. Don't pay attention to the grade look at the mean. I think last year the mean for the three exams were in the mid to high 60s.

Good Luck and enjoy cell and tissue.

 

[Jack Daniel]

i'll just say this...this week we had an OMM exam (our second of the year) and there were terms on that thing that i hadn't seen before!! i'm thinking if i get some good ideas from other schools about how to improve our situation i may be able to take it to my class, and then to the department and make some changes.

On a purely selfish note, I sure hope this OMM course isn't in a certain school in a certain northeastern state just south of Canada. Regardless, I admire your quest to improve the instruction.

 

[Dies Irae]

There is something much more wrong with the last picture than with the second.

 

[cadoctobe]

On a purely selfish note, I sure hope this OMM course isn't in a certain school in a certain northeastern state just south of Canada. Regardless, I admire your quest to improve the instruction.

nope not a northeastern state...and don't worry. it's hard, but not as hard as you think. apparently all that stress about knowing nothing and my professor emailed me and told me i got an 86. isn't it just as bad if you think you know nothing as really knowing nothing?? good luck.

 

[(nicedream)]

nope not a northeastern state...and don't worry. it's hard, but not as hard as you think. apparently all that stress about knowing nothing and my professor emailed me and told me i got an 86. isn't it just as bad if you think you know nothing as really knowing nothing?? good luck.

I don't know if you are at the same school as me, I think you might be judging from the schedule and description of the class...but we've been getting huge curves on the exams so the 86 might have been much lower before.

 

[judgehopkins]

If you explore the website you will see that the site is european.