In-State vs OOS ('13-'14 stats) for each COM

[OrdinaryDO]

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I haven't seen anything like this posted around here lately, so I figured I would do it. I found this while trying to choose which osteopathic schools would be a waste of time based on geographical bias. This takes nothing else into account other than what is stated on the graph. I will post the link as well.
http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2013-14-COM-E-bystate.pdf?sfvrsn=12

 

[Seth Joo]

I haven't seen anything like this posted around here lately, so I figured I would do it. I found this while trying to choose which osteopathic schools would be a waste of time based on geographical bias. This takes nothing else into account other than what is stated on the graph. I will post the link as well.
http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2013-14-COM-E-bystate.pdf?sfvrsn=12

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Only a handful full of schools have a bias against out of state students, schools like Ohio, MSU, and Oklahoma State. The rest are have no geographic preference for students.

This is because most DO schools are private. The only private DO school that seems to have some kind of bias is Ohio for what reason I do not know but if you are an out of state student you have to sign some kind of waiver promising to practice in Ohio for a number of years.

 

[TUVIX]

Only a handful full of schools have a bias against out of state students, schools like Ohio, MSU, and Oklahoma State. The rest are have no geographic preference for students.

This is because most DO schools are private. The only private DO school that seems to have some kind of bias is Ohio for what reason I do not know but if you are an out of state student you have to sign some kind of waiver promising to practice in Ohio for a number of years.

OU is not private. They have a contract with the OH government to fill the class with 80% OH residents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_University

 

[Seth Joo]

OU is not private. They have a contract with the OH government to fill the class with 80% OH residents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_University

My bad.

 

[hse]

Only a handful full of schools have a bias against out of state students, schools like Ohio, MSU, and Oklahoma State. The rest are have no geographic preference for students.

This is because most DO schools are private. The only private DO school that seems to have some kind of bias is Ohio for what reason I do not know but if you are an out of state student you have to sign some kind of waiver promising to practice in Ohio for a number of years.

lol

 

[Seth Joo]

Going back to what I said before, the private DO schools do not care about the region you are from.

 

[asdf123g]

do oos/out of region students have to have more impressive stats/EC's in general?

 

[zero0]

do oos/out of region students have to have more impressive stats/EC's in general?

Generally yes. Regionally biased schools tend to take people from their area who may have low stats but fit the mission of the school, then pad their averages with OOS applicants with high stats.

 

[IslandStyle808]

Going back to what I said before, the private DO schools do not care about the region you are from.

Yes they do. Here is an example.

http://www.pnwu.edu/prospective-students/fast-facts/ (matriculant tab)

78% of the students are from the five states surrounding the school. 8% of them were from Alaska which is far as hell (3% were from Montana even though it is much closer). They don't care as much as public school, I will agree on that point.

 

[Cardboard101]

There's also this handy resource: http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2014_MatCOMState.pdf?sfvrsn=6

 

[yanks26dmb]

Pnwu absolutely has bias. They made that specifically clear to me on the phone last year. UNE too.

 

[hopefulERdoc251]

lol Rowan, NYCOM, CUSOM, WVUSOM, PWNU, Western, MSUCOM, VCOM, OUCOM, OSUCOM, UNE and to a lesser extent PCOM all have in-state/regional bias.

 

[zero0]

lol Rowan, NYCOM, CUSOM, WVUSOM, PWNU, Western, MSUCOM, VCOM, OUCOM, OSUCOM, UNE and to a lesser extent PCOM all have in-state/regional bias.

You can add ACOM, KYCOM, WCU, LMU, and Touro-CA to that list as well. WVSOM is actually surprisingly receptive to people who are willing to shell out 50k for OOS tuition.

 

[Seth Joo]

Yes they do. Here is an example.

http://www.pnwu.edu/prospective-students/fast-facts/ (matriculant tab)

78% of the students are from the five states surrounding the school. 8% of them were from Alaska which is far as hell (3% were from Montana even though it is much closer). They don't care as much as public school, I will agree on that point.

I am from Boston, I got five interviews at schools that were all west of St. Louis, got offers of admission at all five of them. They obviously were not regionally biased against me.

Schools that are state funded do have a regional bias for obvious reasons but private schools not so much.

 

[IslandStyle808]

I am from Boston, I got five interviews at schools that were all west of St. Louis, got offers of admission at all five of them. They obviously were not regionally biased against me.

Schools that are state funded do have a regional bias for obvious reasons but private schools not so much.

You're an excellent student in medical school so I am sure you were very competitive as a pre-medial student for all schools, hence all 5 accepting you. However, for those slightly competitive or non-competitive, the bias comes into play. I applied to PNWU with slightly less than competitive stats and got reject two days after sending my secondary, I'm from Hawaii BTW (plus I had interviews from father places). I am sure they get just as many applicants from Hawaii as Alaska, but don't accept as many.

There is no provable bias that can be seen with private schools, but by talking with faculty and looking at the statistics one can infer it. Again the bias isn't as large as public schools, it is definitely there (agree with you on that point).

 

[Seth Joo]

You're an excellent student in medical school so I am sure you were very competitive as a pre-medial student for all schools, hence all 5 accepting you. However, for those slightly competitive or non-competitive, the bias comes into play. I applied to PNWU with slightly less than competitive stats and got reject two days after sending my secondary, I'm from Hawaii BTW (plus I had interviews from father places). I am sure they get just as many applicants from Hawaii as Alaska, but don't accept as many.

There is no provable bias that can be seen with private schools, but by talking with faculty and looking at the statistics one can infer it. Again the bias isn't as large as public schools, it is definitely there.

I had 9 interview invites total, 5 from schools in the Western region, four in the East. I declined all my interview invites in the East for my own personal reasons, actually wanted live someplace warm, I just wanted to move to another part of the country. I can tell you the schools I interviewed with did not mind that I was from another part of the country at all and welcomed me.

Its great not having to shovel snow or drive with a bunch of idiots in bad weather. Although people in Arizona really have no clue how to handle themselves in traffic when it rains.

There are only a few DO schools that will have a strong bias towards in state applicants and those are the state funded DO schools such as MSU and Oklahoma and I stand corrected that Ohio is also a state funded school as well. Ohio makes out of state applicants sign a form stating that they will practice in Ohio for a number of years if they are accepted otherwise pay some specific sum of money to the school if they break that promise, kind of draconian. I remember getting my secondary from them and them giving me a form saying that I needed to promise to work in Ohio for 5 or so years otherwise pay them a certain sum of money, I threw my secondary in the trash when I read that.