How would you rate these NY dental schools on curriculum and clinical experience. Where would you go if you were accepted to all three and the difference in tuition was not an issue?
1-Stonybrook
2-Columbia
3-NYU
1-Stonybrook
2-Columbia
3-NYU
I think it's funny when people say "tuition is not an issue." IT IS. All of those schools are GREAT. With that said I would personally rank them by the price tags on each.
For me it would be:
Stony
NYU
Columbia
I have no interest in research.
For me:
Columbia - DMD/MBA program; still in NYC even though the area isn't as nice
NYU- good location; excellent facilitiesl; I love the idea of having tons of classmates--coming from an institution with over 20,000 undergrads, I love love love meeting new people and stuff.
Stonybrook- I don't like the location. It's deep in Long Island (my aunt lives an exit away) and there is nothing much to do there. You could take the Long Island Railroad to NYC but it would take you like an hour and a half.
So I guess you would choose NYU ?
Columbia . . .. NYU
Wow, talk about liking something you don't have.
I'm allowed.
For me it would be:
Stony
NYU
Columbia
I have no interest in research.
Where's Buffalo?
NY state requires 1 year residency
if you want great clinical experience and opportunity to specialize its Stony Brook all the way...the second years already have patients and have done fillings, etc on them.
that is one of the FEW things about Columbia that bothers me. because of this requirement, dental school is essentially 5+ years long.
that is one of the FEW things about Columbia that bothers me. because of this requirement, dental school is essentially 5+ years long.
If you go to stony brook you will only get an early clinical experience.
Despite the fact that the mission/focus of SUNY dental schools (state/public institutions) is to train general dentists to practice in underserved areas?
actually, 50% of stony's grads end up specializing; the other 50% don't because it is their choice not to....
i started a thread titled "a tribute to stony brook" explaining the whole deal with stony brook. i am sure you read it; i dont know why you're in denial, acting as though you dont know the advantages of being in stony brook. i wish you some inner peace cus it seems that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to stony brook
actually, 50% of stony's grads end up specializing; the other 50% don't because it is their choice not to....
i started a thread titled "a tribute to stony brook" explaining the whole deal with stony brook. i am sure you read it; i dont know why you're in denial, acting as though you dont know the advantages of being in stony brook. i wish you some inner peace cus it seems that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to stony brook
You are totally biased.
Columbia
Stony
NYU
Any day!!!
what do u know?
my dentist graduated from Columbia and he is the best dentist ever I met.
Guys,
No ranking of the NY schools would appease all parties concerned. How difficult is that to fathom? My rank is different from anyone else's, unless you are my clone.
I am a current 1st year at NYU. At the time of my application, my rank would have been:
1. NYU (accepted and attending)
2. Columbia (waitlisted, later accepted, but turned down)
99. Stony Brook (did not apply)
100. Buffalo (did not apply)
For me, size, diversity, location, and brand-name mattered most. I'll go backwards:
Because I'm an Asian-American already with an Ivy-League degree, I wanted to continue padding my resume with another big-name school (Columbia or NYU). I already went through hell getting degrees from Harvard and Northwestern, and I didn't feel like having a lesser-known state school after my name. In the world of Asian-America (and of course in East Asia), school names matter a lot, as superficial and inconvenient as it may be. Personal choice #1.
Upon interviewing at Columbia, I realized the facilities and location were far below that of NYU. Columbia SDOS (located in Spanish Harlem: 20-30 minutes away from even midtown and even farther from downtown), despite sharing classes with the med school, seemed like it was just a 'poor cousin' version of its monstrous medical school. NYUCD, on the other hand, boasted 2 of its own 12-story buildings filled with new facilities, a new student lounge, a new cafeteria, etc. And of course, NYU is actually located IN MANHATTAN, unlike Columbia. Personal choice #2.
Both NYU and Columbia had a diverse patient population, but NYU boasted much more in terms of sheer number, number of chairs, levels of complex cases, amount of collaboration between dental and/or medical faculty, etc. NYU had a new facility called Bluestone, the largest clinical trial center of any dental school in the US. I talked to them, and they let me extern there the summer before starting my D1 year. NYU also had Rosenthal, with international dentists focused on cosmetics going through its hotel-lobby-like facilities on a daily basis. Columbia offered a lot in research as well, but I didn't feel that there was ample clinical research (it was mostly bench stuff). Plus, I don't speak Spanish. Personal choice #3.
I'm personally attracted to size. Again, I attended Northwestern (a top 10-15 undergrad... in fact, it was ranked #7 in US News and World Report when I was a freshmen), and thought I was bad-ass. But when I did a masters at Harvard, I realized "holy crap, Harvard is Harvard for a reason." What I'm trying to say is that size/endowment/reputation matters EVEN when you go from a top 10 school to a top 3 school. I always like to tell my friends this: at Northwestern, I was ecstatic to meet Kofi Annan (for graduation), David Schwimmer (alum), and a few other famous folks (this is how I draw my inspiration). But when I was at Harvard, such were WEEKLY events (should I go hear the Dalai Lama or Bono this Thursday?... drastic example, but you get the drift). I know this doesn't prove anything dental-school-related, but ya hear me? SB and Buffalo - with their small class sizes and suburban locations - did not fit my interest. I wanted more than just a solid dental school where 20 out of 40 students went on to specialize. I wasn't worried about % of people specializing... I was more concerned with being in the center of a big-name educational hub where I can rub shoulders with famous researchers, world leaders, industry execs, etc. I knew (and still believe) that I can specialize anywhere. I wasn't concerned that 350 people would be too much for me to 'gain personal attention.' If professors don't give it to me, I'll make them give me some attention, amen? Personal choice #4.
If you are a superficial, egocentric Asian-American overachiever bad-ass like me, then it comes down to Columbia or NYU. I'd say both are excellent places. You can only choose with your gut, not with any sense of objectivity. In fact, I'm jealous that we don't have a pass-fail system that Columbia does. But I'm damn happy with the school so far. Please take my example as just that -- my preferences only, and nothing else.
PS - tuition also did not matter for me due to my personal background
PS2 - if you want more honest thoughts on nyu (both good and bad), PM me
PS3 - i am only slightly superficial and/or egocentric...
When did NYU suddenly become so popular? Last year, people here on SDN were trashing it like crazy. Anyhow, I have always been a fan of NYU. The facilities are awesome, and the patient pools as well. I would have gone if the tuition weren't so expensive.
Because I'm an Asian-American already with an Ivy-League degree, I wanted to continue padding my resume with another big-name school (Columbia or NYU). I already went through hell getting degrees from Harvard and Northwestern, and I didn't feel like having a lesser-known state school after my name. In the world of Asian-America (and of course in East Asia), school names matter a lot, as superficial and inconvenient as it may be. Personal choice #1.
First off if you haven't lived in NY than you could be in for a treat or dissapointment. I've lived in upstate
And to think there are so many Asian students at the SUNY schools. Gosh, they must be the idiots at your cocktail parties.