Interested in Doing Residency in EU - France, Spain, Italy or Romania any advice

Discussion in 'Europe' started by chagi1, Jul 29, 2008.

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  1. chagi1


    Jul 29, 2008
    I graduated Medicine from Debrecen Hungary but am a Canadian Citizen.

    I am interested in applying for residency in
    or ROMANIA.

    Does anyone know how I go about applying for any of the residency programs in the countries listed?

    How about any requirements.. language of course.. but any entrance exams if I graduated from an EU country??

    Any helpful websites?

    How about job opportunities in these countries once residency is complete? Is there an overpopulation of doctors in these countries??

    Any advice or direction is greatly welcomed!!!
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  3. MSHell

    MSHell Deranged User 10+ Year Member

    Nov 29, 2004
    I have some info about France here. As you're not an EU citizen, look under "médecin étrangers".
  4. KareKare


    Aug 4, 2008
    For doing the medical residency in Spain, first of all you need a good level of Spanish (is worldwide known that we're not so good at languages) and then you have to take a national exam (called MIR), which allows you to choose the speciality and hospital where you want to train.
    Specialization takes 4-5 years, in which you are paid around 1100€ per month. After that it's not very difficult to get a job, especially in some areas in which there's a big lack of doctors (GP, paediatrics, radiology...).
    I'm preparing for the MIR now and I've heard it's going to change in a couple of years, so this info is just useful for the next year :p
    Hope it will be of some use!
  5. parasiteatwork

    parasiteatwork Senior Member 5+ Year Member

    Dec 29, 2004
    Timisoara Romania
    If u want 2 work in any of these countries u have 2 knw the language...thats a must...
  6. Gigo

    Gigo 10+ Year Member

    Feb 24, 2007

    MIR, whats that like? Basics + CK + CN? or?
  7. Gigo

    Gigo 10+ Year Member

    Feb 24, 2007

    MIR, whats that like? Basics + CK + CS? or?
  8. mits5


    Nov 1, 2006
    MIR= mostly clinicals, with basics incorporated. To date, it does not incororate Clinical skills, but it will within the next 2 years i think.
  9. redmofo


    Nov 23, 2008

    Chagi1 tu es Canadien donc tu dois surement savoir parler un peu le français n'est-ce pas? Si c'est le cas je serais ravi de t'aider étant moi même inscris en Université de médecine. Si j'ai bien compris tu souhaite passer tes années d'Internat (Residency) en France par exemple.. Disons que tu ne reçois le titre de docteur qu'après la redaction d'une thèse soutenue à l'oral devant un jury.. Par conséquent tu risques de vraiment devoir travailler pour si tu le souhaite obtenir un DES (Diplôme d'Etudes Specialisées) .. Ce n'est pas de tout repos les etudes en France, mais l'enseignement y est rigoureux et les professeurs exigeants, ce qui prouve que la formation française n'est pas si mal finalement!

    PS: I hope you'll understand, if you don't try Google Translator.. ;)

    - redmofo -
  10. supersuper21


    Dec 12, 2008
    1st of all ... thanks for the clarification ...

    so, MIR what is it about ?? i am an egyptian - non-EU

    is the MIR like the USMLE ??? and what r my chances to be a doctor in spain ???
  11. medicalis


    Jan 25, 2009
    i m a currently studying medicine in romania.....i am an indian citizen and would like to do my residency in a european country like germany,france,switzerland or austria but i m still in a dilemma as to what country to go for so that i can start wid my language course......please help!
  12. shreypete

    shreypete 10+ Year Member

    Sep 28, 2007
    well see it this way...if you learn will be useful whether you're applying to France or Switzerland (although Swiss German is the primary language but the written language is still High German) or Belgium. If you learn German, then you can either apply to Germany or Austria or even parts of Switzerland (but you will need to learn Swiss german separately).

    Regarding getting a residency in France...if you're interested in a competitive specialty, it's very very hard because there is a lot of competition and you take an email similar to the USMLEs and your specialty depends on your score.

    Regarding Switzerland, it's pretty much impossible as they mostly tend to take in their own grads and then grads from other Western European countries. Either ways for applying to either of these countries, having a perfect knowledge of French is necessary.

    Regarding Germany, Germany is accepting many foreign grads so you might stand a good chance but you still need a good command of German, whether you're applying to Germany or Austria.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2009
  13. cbcgingko

    cbcgingko Junior Member 7+ Year Member

    Jan 18, 2005
    I am a fourth year American medical student (in my last year) applying for residency training in NYC in 3 areas: Emergency Medicine (3 or 4 years, although I'm leaning towards a 4 year program), Internal Medicine (3 years) and Emergency Medicine/Internal Medicine (a 5 year combination program). I am having a tough time deciding between the three specialties (I have to put my in my rank list by Feb 25th!) because I would like to eventually practice in France or Geneva, Switzerland via the UK with EU recognition of my American training. I married a French man and thus I have EU community rights.

    I have the following questions:

    1) What type of registration should I choose (provisional, full, specialist, GP?) being that my intention is to practice in France or Switzerland and not in the UK?

    2) Maybe related to question 1, Do you suggest I apply for registration right after my residency training in the U.S. (it could be 3, 4, or 5 years depending on which residency I choose), after internship year (although internal medicine internship does not have 3 months of surgery) or should I work in the U.S. as an Attending (I think that is American for Consultant?) for a period of time?

    3) Would I need to work or do additional training in the UK before applying for equivalence in France or Switzerland?

    I appreciate any advice you can offer!
  14. maiko


    Mar 16, 2009
    hi:) it's my first day on this forum and maybe someone can help me. becouse I really can't understand anything. I'm from Georgia (not usa but country near Russia). I have finished medical university and than was working as a unior doctor 3 years. then in 2007 i have passed the exam and now i'm working in a clinical dispansary as a dermato-venerologist.
    Let me kindly ask you to give me some information, to which level my education is appropriate to in italy in order to obtain the right to study at master level or what kind of exams I should pass to work as a dermatologist in Italy.
  15. maiko


    Mar 16, 2009
    hi:) it's my first day on this forum and maybe someone can help me. becouse I really can't understand anything. I'm from Georgia (not usa but country near Russia). I have finished medical university and than was working as a unior doctor 3 years. then in 2007 i have passed the exam and now i'm working in a clinical dispansary as a dermato-venerologist.
    Let me kindly ask you to give me some information, to which level my education is appropriate to in italy in order to obtain the right to study at master level or what kind of exams I should pass to work as a dermatologist in Italy.
  16. SHAI5KUM


    Aug 22, 2008
    Hey all ... well .. am a GP, i graduated last year and i want to start my residency ASAP. IF i choose to do my residency in germany, which hospital i should contact for plastic surgery? and Dermantology?

    Language is no problem, am already enrolled in GOETH institute. Just need the contacts in germany, must be university hospital.

    Appreciate it:)
  17. Asnath


    Jun 22, 2009
    I would like to know what schools in europe that specifies in the field i am interested in. which is psychiatry i want to know what subjects i need to take, contact information and their tuition if its free or you have to pay.
  18. rubayee

    rubayee 5+ Year Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    dear friends
    i am selected for medical specialization at oradea but the things is that i have to join and other university for preparatory course(language) in romania .
    i would like to know that is it possible to get visa on the basis of initial admission acceptance letter and after submitting the fee there can i join an other state university on the same visa? or there is restriction that if i got the visa for cluj i have to study in cluj and if i want to join oradea for language course suppose, i have to get an other visa for and for that i need to returnback to my country for visa?

    i hope you understand that.
    and how did you find medical education at romania?
    and where the cardiology id good in romania
    kindly reply directly on my e mail id
    [email protected]

    sincere regards

    dr riaz
  19. drvoldemort


    Feb 16, 2010
    i am islam a medical student from egypt who did training in spain ... i am asking if i can do resedency in spain ... what other papers documents i need for resedency plus good spainish which i will take courses in spainish.
    doing MIR only way for resedency
    do you know if Egyptian degree is recognised or not in spain
  20. drvoldemort


    Feb 16, 2010
    i am egyptian too who is interested in doing resedency in spain .. i can take spainish courses and i already went to spain for training .. do you know if the egyptian degree is recognized in spain or not .. what other kind of exams i have to do there or other papers
  21. rubayee

    rubayee 5+ Year Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    I am a doctor having good clinical exposure.
    i am keen to get residency in cardiology anywhere in europe.

    would you please help me in finding out the places where there is no entry tests required?

    kind regards

    Dr Memon
  22. niush


    May 1, 2011
    Hi, I am a general practitioner in Iran. I wanna know the conditions of studying residency in Spain? I know Spanish language a bit but what kind of tests or certification is necessary? Could i take the MRI exam with my Iranian degree?
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  23. Mrmacc


    Jul 8, 2011
    Hello all, i am resident (curently 7th month of 36months residency programe) in ophthalmology from Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, i am interested to continue my residency In Spain, or somewhere else, is there anybody who can give me some infos?
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  24. Damasian


    Sep 4, 2011
    Im a GP graduated in 2009 from Kuwait University (nonj-EU) and i am a Syrian citizen. Internship was completed in Kuwait MOH hospitals. Now, working in MOH polyclinic as a GP.

    I'm interested in specializing in ophthalmology in France or Spain.

    what are the steps to find a seat in a program in one of these country?
  25. sirwilly007


    Feb 20, 2012
    I graduated from te University of Nigeria, Nsukka Medical School in 2011 and I would like to do my residency training in Pathology or Radiology in Italy. Please I will appreciate information on how to get started, and what exams I will need to take.
    Thanks in advance.
  26. ahmedd


    Mar 1, 2012
    i had my cousin in the same situation as you, he was registered to study medicine in Bucharest but they wanted to send him to Pitesti for a language course ,but i had him transferred to Bucharest to do the language course in Bucharest, and we didnt need to change his VISA , he didnt have a normal Visa , he had something called Permis De Sedere 7 ani , its residency permit in the country for 7 years because he had a scollarship , but anyway its the same thing as you , and regarding your question about how is medicine in Romania , well i am half Romanian and lived here almost all my life and i have 1 year to finish Medicine, i can say that generally medicine is bad in this country , some people will teach you good and you learn alot ,and others dont even bother to teach you or let you do anything , it all depends on luck ,also you dont get paid like other EU countries, you have to pay 4 or 5000 euros each year as a tax. so in my opinion itsnt worth it , and by the way CLUJ is much better than Oradea regarding hospitals and medical studies in general.
  27. bidiboom

    bidiboom 2+ Year Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    If you come from a country in Middle East or Africa .. or anywhere else they have a common history :D get ready to face rudeness and discrimination in France, thats first. Second, med schools in France take place under "universities" heading, which are the adoptees of the education system; the proud of France in higher education is "grand schools" which drain the budget, spared for education. Universities are miserable, to get in library you wait for 45 minutes, the first year of med schools is like stable, everybody thats interested in anything related with health are in, there is an extreme competition and French people are loners, no real warmth and friendliness, competition comes first.

    BUT! Sarkozy, for all my disrespect on his conservative policies, did something really good, and spared a much higher budget for universities (actually it has a wider scope, but I dont know the details), which means improvement in univ.s, but still I dont expect it to give fruits in short term. But its a joy to see them better :)

    Besides I dont have any idea about residency. At residency level the story may change, quality may be great, I dont know. Though I dont expect.

    As an Arab, you may face discrimination not only in social life, but in your residency program as well. Thats important.

    Generally speaking, this state of mind, I think, will be the end of EU: not to develop a vision other than imperialism, as a natural consequence, need for discrimination, work-less-eat-more standard (not for French doctors, but in Europe at large, except Germany), and eventually shrinking and turning to an island in the world. Every society passed through these times all along history; either they will develop a better vision, or Europe will be history.
  28. euro


    Apr 23, 2012
    Anyone have any information of Italian residency?
  29. collinsaboloje


    Jul 2, 2012
    I want to ask something about cardiology residency in belgium (preferably dutch part),spain, italy and germany. since i m a non-EU 5th yr med student in ukraine.. i will graduate next yr june

    1. For cardiology, how long is the residency?
    2. for cardiology, which university or hospital that I should apply for medical residency?
    3. what are the requirements? as i am ready to fulfill any
    4. is it easy to get into the system?
    4. do i get paid in the course of doing my residency?
    5.what are my chances as a medical student(graduate) from ukraine.
    6. after my graduation next yr, can i immediately put in for the residency or do they require any level of experience?

    kindly help guys..
  30. enricog


    Jul 25, 2012

    I'm an Italian citizen and I am on my 4th yearn studying in Mexico. Does anybody know the requirements to apply for a medical residency position in Europe when graduating from an non european university?

    Thank you.

  31. mak24


    May 27, 2015
    Hello, I personally to apply to Spain, but u said tht the information u gave is only for a year. any ideas about the new exam or new requirements?
    I would be very happy if you can help or give me a link that I can check. I am an non-EU medical student graduating next year.
    Thank you
  32. vini2017


    Aug 14, 2017
    hello, i am in 2 year of residency in Romania and i also finished my graduation in Romania and i want to continue / transfer my residency in France . do anybody know what is the procedure to continue my residency in France . i am non-EU citizen . please give some suggestion

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