Intern spots for international medical students in Australia

[adolf5]

While this isn't really anything we don't know - worth a read if you're interested:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25991790-23289,00.html

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[JanikeyDoc]

While this isn't really anything we don't know - worth a read if you're interested:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25991790-23289,00.html

hope the link works.

That is exactly what I am talking about, going to an Australian medical school as an international is massive financial risk. And even in North America the chances of getting an internship or residency is getting harder.

 

[sliced bread]

nasty

it's 2009, problems/solutions being addressed now

i wonder how much the landscape will change post 2012...?

 

[JanikeyDoc]

The best thing is just to get a PR and then apply it will make your life easier and less expensive. Oh yeah I am going for the PR, I just got a wake up call to the insanely high amount of tuition to attend an American medical school, that and lets face it...America is going downhill fast.

 

[Daemos]

The best thing is just to get a PR and then apply it will make your life easier and less expensive. Oh yeah I am going for the PR, I just got a wake up call to the insanely high amount of tuition to attend an American medical school, that and lets face it...America is going downhill fast.

So willing to deal with all the racism in Australia then?

 

[redshifteffect]

LOL man janikey what a 180 degree turn.

 

[shan564]

These articles are usually just attempts by the students to reach out to the media. Don't consider them as a primary source of information - they're really just relaying the stuff that we've been talking about here for weeks/months. The USyd students will have a meeting with the relevant authorities on Sep 17... I'll keep you guys updated on what happens. If you check the news media, you won't hear anything until at least a couple of weeks later.

 

[JanikeyDoc]

LOL man janikey what a 180 degree turn.

It wasn't a 180 degree turn, more like a 45 degree turn. After all I have been in Australia since the beginning of 2008, almost 2 years, just was unsure about becoming a permanent resident.

 

[Alphonsine]

LOL man janikey what a 180 degree turn.

Janikey used to be really pro-Australian back when he was under the old screen name JoeNama It was like 180 - 0 - 180 all over again.

Edited to add: JoeNama also said he is graduating from UQ Medical School this year. Lol! More inconsistencies.

 

[JanikeyDoc]

Sorry to disappoint Alphonsine but I did not do a 180, more like a 45 degree turn. Still I am currently applying for a PR rather than apply as an international student.

 

[Daemos]

Sorry to disappoint Alphonsine but I did not do a 180, more like a 45 degree turn. Still I am currently applying for a PR rather than apply as an international student.

Uh...remember these posts?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=8302947#post8302947

I actually like Australia I just don't like it enough to want become a permanent resident or go 300k in debt for a foreign MD, that's all. I think North Americans need to look at a decision like going to a foreign country very seriously. Many of the universities are aggressively marketing themselves to international students at the same time, local enrollments in medical schools are at an all time high, that means internationals will have a harder time staying in Australia. In the US more medical schools are opening and residency programs are stagnant or being cut, that means fewer training spots for IMGs. The UK closed its doors to Aussie grads a few years back and prefer German or other EU doctors. The faculties market their schools as first class alternatives to US and Canadian, schools, they are not. Buyer beware.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=8250447#post8250447

Those surveys are bullcrap, everyone has a different experience. Honestly I find Australia to be BORING. I like traveling, and like going to places like South America and Europe, two destinations which are too expensive to go to from Australia. A bargain roundtrip to Europe is around $1500AUD, I could get bargain tickets to Europe from the US as low as $300AUD.

I am from Miami, I have spent a lot of time on the West Coast, and yes I have seen quite a few Aussies in both Miami and in Cali, and no I did not mistake them for being British. There are tons of famous examples of Aussies who have moved to the USA. Even the Crocodile Dundee actor won't set foot in Australia again, how ironic.

The Mercer surveys are nonsense, they pick the most boring places in the world as the best places to live. Life is really what you make of it. Frankly speaking I saw another survey, a survey of cities with the world's best looking women, cities like Copenhagen, Montreal, Barcelona, Moscow, Prague, and Stockholm ranked very high. That is a survey I respect. I have been to Moscow, I have to say wawaweeewa!!!

Sydney was way down on the bottom of that list, its not surprising since so many Aussie guys go overseas for fun, if you know what I mean, and the fact that every other guy here has a mail order bride or girlfriend.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=8233808#post8233808

Look I am black, and I experience more racism here in Australia. In fact people ask me if I am an Islander or Aboriginal all the time and then begin to act differently. Speaking of Aboriginals, its absolutely sickening as to how isolated they are, I saw a homeless Aboriginal man on Sunday on George St. and the look on his face and eyes I will never forget. America has racism like anywhere else in the world but I think the USA is still more accepting of different people than most others. I still have not heard about mass numbers of immigrants being randomly beat up on the streets by thugs in US cities like what is going on in Melbourne, its so serious that diplomatic row is developing between India and Australia.

I do think things are changing in America, its not propaganda. My girlfriend is Lebanese and we went to Miami this past December, she loved it, and in particular she loved the diversity.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=8233786#post8233786

I am not sure about New York but in most parts of the US with the exception of the biggest coastal cities like LA and SF, its not that hard to find reasonably priced housing. When people talk about expensive and America, its the exceptions like NYC, San Francisco, LA, and the like that come out to be overpriced. I normally live in Miami, and the housing there is generally much better than what I see in Sydney. I could live on South Beach for the same amount that I spend to live in a so so area of the CBD, my Sydney apartment has million dollar views of porno shops and pawn outlets. Rents in Sydney are climbing yet again even though Aussie real estate is beginning to crash. A lot of it is ridiculously overpriced, even the so called posh Sydney suburb of Bondi did not impress me at all, if that is the most fashionable beach in Australia, that would mean South Beach is the best beach on the Earth.
America beats Australia on so many levels, you always read about Aussies going to the USA and not coming back but rarely do you hear about it the other way. Living here for a while I figured it out.
I am in my 30s, I am not going to live with a bunch of kids younger than me, that would be odd.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=8188016#post8188016

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25518170-5006784,00.html

International students at Newcastle being beaten and robbed by teenagers. USA >>>> Canada >>> Australia.

The bottom incident involved hooligans and Police, it does not matter what your skin color is, when you deal with cops or any LE in America you should really behave yourself. Come to think of it I met an Aussie who said he got interrogated and was briefly arrested at LAX, no he is not of Middle East origin, he is a white Anglo Aussie male.

Jena happened in a little backwater in the Deep South. The racial incidents I mentioned that occurred in Australia happened in both Sydney and in Melbourne, the two most international and multicultural Australian cities.

I have been to a number of countries around the world: Germany, Netherlands, France, Japan, New Zealand, Taiwan, South Korea, etc, Australia is easily the most xenophobic of them all.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=8188004#post8188004

Australia has serious problems with racism:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10484723

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/26/2474732.htm

http://www.theage.com.au/national/train-gang-bashes-indian-student-20090511-azbq.html

Australia a well functioning multicultural society??? Give me a break.

Do you really think white youths would be able to racially beat up a black male in New York or LA and get away with it? I really doubt it. Melbourne and Sydney are Australia's two most international cities.

But now you want to get an Australian PR? hmm...

 

[driedcaribou]

Uh...remember these posts?
(list of posts)
But now you want to get an Australian PR? hmm...

It's rather impressive to compile all that.
I think your time would be better served though by saving your brain power and time by adding information that isn't useful to an ignore list.

 

[Daemos]

It's rather impressive to compile all that.
I think your time would be better served though by saving your brain power and time by adding information that isn't useful to an ignore list.

I was very bored at work.

 

[JanikeyDoc]

If you really want to stay in Australia you should get PR BEFORE applying to medical school. It will not only make your life easier but it will also make it a lot less expensive. HECS fees are a fraction of the full international fees at most Australian medical schools. If you are going with the idea that you will just get PR after finishing is silly, only a few years ago they used to make students sign an agreement that they would leave the country upon graduation, it would not be inconceivable that they would kick out internationals in the future with the glut of new graduates starting in the coming years.

 

[shan564]

If you really want to stay in Australia you should get PR BEFORE applying to medical school. It will not only make your life easier but it will also make it a lot less expensive. HECS fees are a fraction of the full international fees at most Australian medical schools. If you are going with the idea that you will just get PR after finishing is silly, only a few years ago they used to make students sign an agreement that they would leave the country upon graduation, it would not be inconceivable that they would kick out internationals in the future with the glut of new graduates starting in the coming years.

How many times will you say that?