International Student: Help with MD/PhD school list?

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  1. Randomize

    Randomize

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    Hello everyone, I'll love some help with my school list. My stats are 4.0/38/1.5 years of research (ongoing with summer fellowship, and a senior honors thesis next year), no publications. I'm pretty worried about my chances for MD/PhD as I'm an international student. I have made a list for the schools I'm applying to. Should I add more MDs, or look into any other schools?

    MD/PhD
    Albert Einstein
    Baylor
    Boston University
    Pennsylvania State University
    University of Pennsylvania
    University of Chicago
    University of Virginia
    Vanderbilt
    University of Washington in St. Louis
    Dartmouth
    Emory
    Tufts
    Weill Cornell
    Medical College of Wisconsin
    Saint Louis University
    State University of New York Upstate
    University of Kentucky
    University of Minnesota

    MD

    Case Western Reserve University
    Rosalind Franklin University
    Columbia
    Harvard
    Johns Hopkins
    Northwestern
    Yale
    Duke
    Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
    Brown
    New York University
    University of Pittsburg

    Thank you so much! :)
     
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  3. ValentinNarcisse

    ValentinNarcisse 2+ Year Member

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    How did you come up with this list? Some very strange choices in here.
     
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  4. Randomize

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    I made the list by looking at the admission stats from MSAR, and also from talking to some med students. :)
     
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  5. ValentinNarcisse

    ValentinNarcisse 2+ Year Member

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    I would recommend applying MSTP to all the programs that have one (move Columbia, Yale etc into the MD/PhD pile). I would apply MD to a handful of places with less established MD/PhD programs like Brown and Dartmouth. I would drop the random state schools (Kentucky, Upstate, MCW) since you are an international applicant.
     
  6. StIGMA

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    I would move all of the MD schools with MSTPs into MD/PhD. MSAR doesnt necessarily tell you whether the program accepts internationals because they must matriculate to count. You may end up with an MD acceptance from one of your MD/PhD applications. If your goal is to simply get in somewhere this cycle even if it is not an MD/PhD program, add some less competitive MD programs that dont care about state residence.
     
  7. LADuck00

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    MCW isn't a state school. It has an MSTP now too.
     
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    An international student who applied this current cycle was kind enough to leave a complete record of his experience. You can learn a lot here.
     
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  10. Randomize

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    Thank you so much for all your advice! Mynameistoolong's record is a very sobering read, and from reading all the other forums here, would it be better for me to switch the ratio, and apply to majority MD schools for a better chance to just get into a med school? Thanks!
     
  11. pipettequeen

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    I would do more research on which MD/PhD programs take international students and how programs consider MD/PhD applications (MD/PhD and MD simultaneously vs. either MD/PhD or MD only). If you are very sure about pursuing MD/PhD, I think applying majority MD/PhD this cycle is worth it. If it doesn't work out, you can strengthen your application during a gap year and apply MD only next time. There are many routes to becoming a physician-scientist, but I think the benefits of MD/PhD is worth risking a gap year.
     
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    If you are set on MD/PhD, I would recommend what I wrote earlier in the thread: Apply more widely to MD/PhD programs (25+) and include less competitive MD programs that accept significant proportion of out-of-state students as a backup. You are a competitive applicant (despite borderline to average research experience, can't really distinguish based on your limited description).
     
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    I would move Mt Sinai to the MD-PhD pile since they accept and fund international students regularly.

    I would remove UChicago, Dartmouth, and most of the state schools from the MD-PhD list unless you've confirmed that they accept internationals. I'd keep Yale and Columbia in the MD pool.

    This past cycle Cornell and Penn said that they accepted international students but I'm not sure if they actually interviewed/accepted any, may be worth calling them.

    FYI Mayo Clinic and U Maryland accept Canadian students with funding into their MSTP's.
     
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    I agree with Mt Sinai
    Dartmouth does accept internationals for MD-PhD (confirmed over the phone), and so does Columbia (confirmed in person). Yale does not, it's on their website. (http://medicine.yale.edu/mdphd/admissions/FAQ.aspx - 1st question)
    Cornell accepted 2 internationals last year; UPenn admitted 4 (MSAR).
     
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    UT Southwestern MSTP accepts international students as well though the medical school will not accept international MD students and it uses a different application. But it's worth a shot especially since there's no secondary app and no secondary app fee.
     
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    I'm also an international student in the same position with 3.5 GPA and 39 MCAT. 3+ years of research and 1 publication. Here's my list:

    Albert Einstein
    Baylor
    Harvard
    UPenn
    Emory
    Mount Sinai
    University of Pittsburgh
    Medical College of Wisconsin
    UT Southwestern
    Vanderbilt
    SUNY Upstate
    University of Kentucky
    Rosalind Franklin
    Stony Brook
    Pennsylvania State
    Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson
    Northwestern
    University of Minnesota
     
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    I had a bunch of international MSTP friends at vandy. Your GPA is a little on the low side, but with solid research you might have a chance.

     

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