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In all honesty, this is just a rant.

I went to a shoe store today to buy some new running shoes. The shoe salesman was very handy and in all honesty knew more about the foot than I do, as I am still only a pre-pod. He fitted me with some pretty decent shoes for my foot type. I casually indicated that I had just been accepted to podiatry school and I had read somewhere that the particular model of asics shoe he fitted me to had been recently talked about on an online forum dealing with podiatry (cough SDN). He rolled his eyes at me and said "its really hard to find a good podiatrist" ...something something... "as a running specialist I have seen so many botched surgeries it just makes me sick"

I didnt buy the shoes.
 
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dyk343 said:
"its really hard to find a good podiatrist"
Is that really hard to believe? I mean we got people on here like podpal and greattoe who admit (kind of) that they have yet to do all they can to land quality training (ie a 2 or 3 year residency). And you know there are plenty of others like them out practicing. However, I'm sure the salesman thinks his s*** doesn't stink (he's a salesman) and that he was exaggerating about the botched surgeries...I mean c'mon, the dude called himself a "running specialist". He sells tennis shoes...for a living :laugh:
 
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Is that really hard to believe? I mean we got people on here like podpal and greattoe who admit (kind of) that they have yet to do all they can to land quality training (ie a 2 or 3 year residency). And you know there are plenty of others like them out practicing. However, I'm sure the salesman thinks his s*** doesn't stink (he's a salesman) and that he was exaggerating about the botched surgeries...I mean c'mon, the dude called himself a "running specialist". He sells tennis shoes...for a living :laugh:

Thats what really just rubbed me the wrong way, actually I think it was the way he rolled his eyes at me. Im not going to sit here and claim I know more than he does. He does deal with feet his entire day and im sure that he has heard his fair share of stories from the runners that enter his store. However... hes still a salesman. He didnt go to school to sell shoes. He didnt go to school to examine post op foot procedures.
 
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I guess that I should add that he does deal with athletes all day as its a fairly respected running store. Although I am not an expert, a runner puts their foot through a lot of abuse. I'm sure a runner is more than likely to have complications with a foot surgery than a person who does not run a lot.
 
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He's also made the "assumption" that all the "botched surgeries" he has seen, (though he's not qualified to judge), have been performed by podiatric surgeons/podiatrists. I don't think DPM's have the exclusive rights regarding the performance of surgery of the foot/ankle.
 

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Where did Al Bundy get his "expertise?" Runners World magazine?

Even "good" doctors will have bad outcomes. It just happens. When you go to a conference check out the lecture or panel discussion on worst complications. Brrrrr!

And it's not always the fault of the surgeon. Athletes are notoriously difficult to manage. Those "athletes" might have gone running before they were healed enough. "Doc said I'm not supposed to run for six weeks, but I just gotta run!"
 
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I agree with Natch above. I was an athlete and to be honest they, more than any other person, are quicker to blame trainers/docs for their problems.:laugh: I was in track so you could imagine all the foot/ankle issues i had and seen. I know most of the time when people would come in to see a doctor, they would be treat you then would tell you to walk regular as if you didnt have an injury so that way you wont overcompensate and injure another part of your foot/ankle. Then you do the exact opposite of what they tell you and try to take it easy, and you'd be right back in the doc office two weeks later with a whole new injury. lol! i cant tell u how many times this would happen to me and a whole bunch of other athletes.

I think that its important to remember that docs of any specialization are not miracle workers. Some people, especially a consistent runner, are more prone to injuries than others, especially if their the type that tries to "push past the pain":rolleyes:. What I can say is that it is ultimately, up the person to educate themselves on take care of their OWN body. After the one foot injury I had, I never had to see the trainer again because I took the initiative to see what I could do to prevent it from happening again.
 
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wrong attitude in life buddy. appreciate everybody for their role in society. Just because Petey Podiatrist goes to school for a long time doesnt mean he is any better than anybody else.
I totally agree with you. I completely respected him as he found what felt like a perfect fit for my foot. It was just the way that he treated me for choosing a career in podiatry that pushed the wrong buttons.

Again, sorry for the rant/negativity. I guess I just had to vent.
 

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I think this is just another instance where you take what others say with a grain of salt and move on. Everybody has their opinions of podiatry; this is never going to change. It def sucks but it is only the beginning. Maybe next time you find yourself in this situation why not kindly explain that the field podiatry is evolving and speak about some of the things we are our now being trained to do. If they still don't want to hear it then screw them. At least you created an opportunity to inform the public about what podiatric doctors are able to do these days. The more people who know about our current scope of practice the quicker these false presumptions will die out.
 

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In all honesty, this is just a rant.

I went to a shoe store today to buy some new running shoes. The shoe salesman was very handy and in all honesty knew more about the foot than I do, as I am still only a pre-pod. He fitted me with some pretty decent shoes for my foot type. I casually indicated that I had just been accepted to podiatry school and I had read somewhere that the particular model of asics shoe he fitted me to had been recently talked about on an online forum dealing with podiatry (cough SDN). He rolled his eyes at me and said "its really hard to find a good podiatrist" ...something something... "as a running specialist I have seen so many botched surgeries it just makes me sick"

I didnt buy the shoes.
There is definitely one tool in your story and it's not the shoe salesman. Your grocer, your dry cleaner, your Gardner....none of these people care about your grad school. If you want to mention that you read something about a pair
of shoes, go for it. If you skip the irrelevant part, I suspect you will notice fewer people Rolling their eyes at you.
 
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There is definitely one tool in your story and it's not the shoe salesman. Your grocer, your dry cleaner, your Gardner....none of these people care about your grad school. If you want to mention that you read something about a pair
of shoes, go for it. If you skip the irrelevant part, I suspect you will notice fewer people Rolling their eyes at you.
Thanks for chiming in. Im so happy that you were there and overheard our entire conversation. You must have been the guy getting fitted right next to me?
 

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Thanks for chiming in. Im so happy that you were there and overheard our entire conversation. You must have been the guy getting fitted right next to me?
I see nothing wrong with making conversation either haha.
 

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I see nothing wrong with making conversation either haha.
I'm pretty sure neurosurgeons manage to buy a ball cap without mentioning their 9 to 5.
 
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There is definitely one tool in your story and it's not the shoe salesman. Your grocer, your dry cleaner, your Gardner....none of these people care about your grad school. If you want to mention that you read something about a pair
of shoes, go for it. If you skip the irrelevant part, I suspect you will notice fewer people Rolling their eyes at you.
Considering this person works in a specialty shoe store and works with feet all day, it seems like a very relevant thing to mention.
 

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...or asks where I was reading about the shoes
...then asks why i was reading a podiatry forum

As long as you didn't bring it up in an arrogant or elitist way (which it doesn't seem you did) and you didn't speak with your eyes closed like you are smug about it, it seems an appropriate answer. Not your fault that the shoe guy went on the offensive.