here's a question for all of you. please don't cite what the medical establishment holds as its official stance. just think for yourself. i'm not asserting that alcoholics are inherently awful people (the abusive ones are) or they should be eradicated or anything of the sort. but is it a disease when the cure lies within yourself? what about smoking? does a disease have to be defined by physical symptoms (ie withdrawal, delirium tremens), and if so, does that make panting after running a kind of pathology? or is it a generalized helplessness detrimental to one's health that makes a disease a true pathology? these are all just example questions worth mulling over; i'd love to hear all of your thoughts.