Is anyone going to choose a different med school 'cuz of the UC fee increases?

[snowbear]

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For all the Cali kids and the other kids that were planning on coming to Cali, were you planning on a UC, but are now reconsidering because of the fee increases? This probably doesn't apply so much to UCSF, because it's such an awesome school, but how about the other UCs???

I am almost positive that I would rather go to USC than UCLA, but I would have probably choosen UCLA because of the cheaper tuition; I am pretty confident that I can make the best out of going to any school and I would LOVE to minimize my debt. But now that UCLA may cost 28,000, tuition becomes less of a factor in my decision process.

What about you guys?

 

[uclacrewdude]

If you get into a California school, stay at the California school!

for reference, my projected 4yr debt load is just shy of $200K. besides, you want to stay in california.

 

[sanoge7]

I think the tuition hike will have the largest effect on more "marginal" UCs like UCI and UCD which aren't as big of UC powerhouses. I think that it will really effect them in negative way because, ordinarily, people would turn down great schools back east and go to those instead to save a tremendous amount of money. But, now, with the difference rapidly closing in, I don' t see this happening, and perhaps, the quality of applicants attending UCI and UCD might go down. I don't know. I'm just thinking. (p.s. I'm not ratting on UCI and UCD, bc I like them, I am just trying to think about what is going to happen)

snowbear - I agree, I would definitely choose USC over UCLA any day! Way friendlier of a place, great place to learn medicine!

 

[Spitting Camel]

My projected debt load, should I get accepted to UCI, will be a mere $100,000 or so. I say mere with respect to other schools.

If I get into LLU, it will be $200,000.


If I remain with Loyola, it will be $200,000.


I think I'll stick with UCI... 😉

 

[sanoge7]

Yeah, it's still a deal, but when comparing most schools the difference is around $28,000 vs $34,000 or so. Not that much!! And not enough to always convince students!🙄

 

[jlee9531]

im staying no matter what. theres no way another school can lure me away from cali....that is of course if i even get an acceptance here.

the best way for me to do residency is to go to med school here and thats the plan.

 

[CalBeE]

The tuition increase will definitely change my decision because I'm a out-of-stater. I predict that the UC will be about the same or even more than an average private school after the increase. However, I will only have the choice IF UCLA actually considers me 😉 (Only UC I applied to)

 

[WuzUpDoc]

i am pretty sure I will still go to a UC over any out-of-state school, and perhaps even over USC (but i don't have an acceptance there, so i can't really judge that...). i called UCI to ask about the tuition increase and they said that although nothing is set in stone yet, if the increase is approved, the tuition would be just over 20K/yr (last year it was 16K), and i believe USC's tuition is 35K/yr.... so i still think it is a deal. and being in california is worth it... but i think the MOST important thing is to go where you will be happy so that you aren't kicking yourself in the butt years down the line. 🙂

 

[Jalby]

Originally posted by jlee9531
the best way for me to do residency is to go to med school here and thats the plan.

100% correct. That would be something to consider if you are choosing between an UC and a out-of-state. It's pretty hard to come back to california once you leave.

 

[Adapt]

Originally posted by Jalby
100% correct. That would be something to consider if you are choosing between an UC and a out-of-state. It's pretty hard to come back to california once you leave.

Interesting. Let me throw a twist into it. As of now I want to go into primary care. Given the above statement, would that also apply if I went to COMP, the DO school in CA, over a Drexel or Temple?

 

[Jalby]

Originally posted by Slickness
Interesting. Let me throw a twist into it. As of now I want to go into primary care. Given the above statement, would that also apply if I went to COMP, the DO school in CA, over a Drexel or Temple?

Noy sure it would matter to much. Primary care, you can come back to california, not sure how easy it would be to get into Los angeles or a place like that. It really depends. If you did Comp, you could easy get FP or Peds or OBGyn around here. I really don't know. You also would have a stigma of being a DO, which I'm not sure how much would hurt you (if at all). I know my school likes DO's in their residency programs and takes a lot of COMPs. It's really a toss up.

You should look into the national health services scholarship though. They pay for your school as long as you commit that you will go into primary care.

 

[Adapt]

Originally posted by Jalby
Noy sure it would matter to much. Primary care, you can come back to california, not sure how easy it would be to get into Los angeles or a place like that. It really depends. If you did Comp, you could easy get FP or Peds or OBGyn around here. I really don't know. You also would have a stigma of being a DO, which I'm not sure how much would hurt you (if at all). I know my school likes DO's in their residency programs and takes a lot of COMPs. It's really a toss up.

You should look into the national health services scholarship though. They pay for your school as long as you commit that you will go into primary care.

Cool. If I don't get into a CA MD school, I'm mostly going to COMP. I'm not worried about the stigma because I don't think anyone will have have the guts to say something to my face about it.

As for the scholarship, I think you have to be poor to qualify and so I don't think I would.

 

[Jalby]

Originally posted by Slickness
Cool. If I don't get into a CA MD school, I'm mostly going to COMP. I'm not worried about the stigma because I don't think anyone will have have the guts to say something to my face about it.

As for the scholarship, I think you have to be poor to qualify and so I don't think I would.

I would definately say just go where you feel best. Comp is a good school, but the hours there is pretty amazing (8-5 daily) Besides, it's early. Something else might come up. But if you do go to COMP, you are gaurunteed a Cali residency in Primary care, it's just a matter of where.

 

[Adapt]

Originally posted by Jalby
But if you do go to COMP, you are gaurunteed a Cali residency in Primary care, it's just a matter of where.

Nice. As for the hours, it is a lot but as I understand it most students don't go to class and just study. Sounds like my routine now anyway...

 

[MeowMix]

Originally posted by Slickness
Interesting. Let me throw a twist into it. As of now I want to go into primary care. Given the above statement, would that also apply if I went to COMP, the DO school in CA, over a Drexel or Temple?

I had a long talk today with a COMP graduate who is a new doc at our clinic here in CO (she's been in practice for several years). She said that she had encountered "political problems" in CA and the west due to being a DO, and that one should be aware of those in deciding between DO and MD schools. She had not taken USMLE but had done very well in allopathic residency interviews, had done a top-notch allo residency in FP and is allo-board certified in FP. The problems she mentioned included having to do a little better than MDs to prove oneself in each job.

I think it's a money issue, an OMM issue, and a question of whether you are willing to deal with those political issues.

 

[Adapt]

Yes in the 1960s there were politcal problems with DOs in CA. However, every year it is looking better for DOs in this state especially, and I don't think it's that big of a problem as it was 40 years ago.

As for proving myself, I will have every confidence in my skills as a physician whether I go to an MD or DO school.

 

[Rose122]

Aren't the fee hikes only proposed at this point? The Governator can't willy nilly make student fee hikes without passing them through the legislature. In any event, assuming that they go through, UCD will go from around $12,000 a year to around $17,000. That gives a school ranked in the top 20 a half price discount compared to the average private. Whoever propsed the initial question must not have included Davis. As for the other UCs, I say pick UC Berkeley since it is the best UC and the finest public education in America.

 

[Jalby]

Originally posted by Rose122
Aren't the fee hikes only proposed at this point? The Governator can't willy nilly make student fee hikes without passing them through the legislature. In any event, assuming that they go through, UCD will go from around $12,000 a year to around $17,000. That gives a school ranked in the top 20 a half price discount compared to the average private. Whoever propsed the initial question must not have included Davis. As for the other UCs, I say pick UC Berkeley since it is the best UC and the finest public education in America.

You do know we are talking about med schools, right?? And I'm not sure Davis is ranked in the top 20 in either ranking. They are the number one non-major sports school according to sports illistrated. They have amazing IM program and their football team continually is in the championship.

 

[LoneCoyote]

Originally posted by Rose122
Aren't the fee hikes only proposed at this point? The Governator can't willy nilly make student fee hikes without passing them through the legislature. In any event, assuming that they go through, UCD will go from around $12,000 a year to around $17,000. That gives a school ranked in the top 20 a half price discount compared to the average private. Whoever propsed the initial question must not have included Davis. As for the other UCs, I say pick UC Berkeley since it is the best UC and the finest public education in America.

I think you must be thinking about undergrad. Davis' tuition for med school is already over $16,000 this past year. So the proposed increase would put it over $20,000. The campuses set the actual tuition increases, not the governor or the legislature. What they decide is how much to cut from the UC budget across the board. Then the campuses decide how to distribute that in terms of tuition increases, cuts, etc.

 

[CalBeE]

Originally posted by Rose122
Aren't the fee hikes only proposed at this point? The Governator can't willy nilly make student fee hikes without passing them through the legislature. In any event, assuming that they go through, UCD will go from around $12,000 a year to around $17,000. That gives a school ranked in the top 20 a half price discount compared to the average private. Whoever propsed the initial question must not have included Davis. As for the other UCs, I say pick UC Berkeley since it is the best UC and the finest public education in America.

YOu must not be thinking about Med schools--UC Berkeley doesn't have a med school. It has a school of public health though.

And UCD is not close to top 20 for research ranking.

 

[dEEpEyEs]

Originally posted by CalBeE
YOu must not be thinking about Med schools--UC Berkeley doesn't have a med school. It has a school of public health though.

And UCD is not close to top 20 for research ranking.

UCSF is actually called University of Calfornia. Someone told me that "in effect" UCB is the undergrad. campus for SF. Have you ever noticed the high perentage at UCB students attending SF?

 

[MaybeMD]

Originally posted by Jalby
You do know we are talking about med schools, right?? And I'm not sure Davis is ranked in the top 20 in either ranking. They are the number one non-major sports school according to sports illistrated. They have amazing IM program and their football team continually is in the championship.

Davis has a football team?!

 

[LoneCoyote]

Originally posted by MaybeMD
Davis has a football team?!

Yeah, and they just voted to join Division I. I forget which conference they are joining but I belive they are a D-I school this season.

 

[jlee9531]

actually davis is in the top 20 for primary care. and basically in the top 50 for research.

ucb and ucsf do have a joint medical program but in essense the medical school is essentially ucsf.

however there are a large number of cal students that end up attending ucsf for med school. historically ucsf takes a lot of students from berkeley and then stanford.