Is Columbia clinical that bad? Need the truth

[FutureDent020]

...sigh...

haha My thoughts exactly

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[gryffindor]

Thank you for pointing that out. Harvard/Columbia/UConn are schools that produce Oral Physicians and not "just" dentist. There is a difference.

You're kidding yourself if you think your patients will believe for one second you're an oral physician. They won't. They won't care where you went to school either. I practice in NYC and most patients, staff, and fellow dentists assume I went to NYU dental school until I tell them that I wasn't educated anywhere near the NYU dental factory. I also have to point out that I have done extra years of residency to be a specialist because patients don't often understand the difference between an actual specialist and a GP who promotes some additional training he has. I wouldn't have time to discuss the difference between oral physicians and just dentists to patients who are already confused and just wondering if it's going to hurt and when they can eat lunch.

 

[FutureDent020]

You're kidding yourself if you think your patients will believe for one second you're an oral physician. They won't. They won't care where you went to school either. I practice in NYC and most patients, staff, and fellow dentists assume I went to NYU dental school until I tell them that I wasn't educated anywhere near the NYU dental factory. I also have to point out that I have done extra years of residency to be a specialist because patients don't often understand the difference between an actual specialist and a GP who promotes some additional training he has. I wouldn't have time to discuss the difference between oral physicians and just dentists to patients who are already confused and just wondering if it's going to hurt and when they can eat lunch.

Haha, I love your signature, "loan money is not the same as lottery money". Well said

 

[ashlander]

I don't care what ppl say about Columbia, I would like to get an interview from them!!

 

[sarah_bellum]

I don't care what ppl say about Columbia, I would like to get an interview from them!!

Sure! Just like the rest of the schools, they can make you a dentist. Any acceptance is a good acceptance.

 

[Dent0Paste]

I'm a D1 at Columbia right now. If you want a real answer to your questions then PM me. All the negativity comes from rumors and whatnot. We just started a new curriculum and have already experienced waxing, impressions, crown preps, articulator, class one preps and temporary crown from stent. If it let's you know about the pre-clinic, we've already caught up and in some cases passed by the second years in pre-clinic projects. With this new curriculum we also enter the clinic during the second year. Yes we take classes with med students, but so do a lot of other schools and the new curriculum has condensed these to get into the clinic earlier. Columbia's idea for this is that very often dentists only learn to drill and fill and don't know how the body functions as a whole (i.e. the periodontal disease atherosclerosis/thrombosis connection). I nearly didn't come to columbia b/c of negative things like this on the forum and elsewhere, but the reality is, it isn't true. Most of the bad things you here are people making up stuff or people propagating bad info that some friend of their's who never even interviewed here made up. Like i said, PM me if you want more info, but it is really sad/frustrating that these rumors are out there just bc people want to hate. At this point it really is impossible for anyone other than a D1 at columbia to tell you how it is since the new curriculum is something that none of the other classes have gone through yet (and people who just say what they think or what they think they know are usually wrong).

 

[Flipper405]

I'm a D1 at Columbia right now. If you want a real answer to your questions then PM me. All the negativity comes from rumors and whatnot. We just started a new curriculum and have already experienced waxing, impressions, crown preps, articulator, class one preps and temporary crown from stent. If it let's you know about the pre-clinic, we've already caught up and in some cases passed by the second years in pre-clinic projects. With this new curriculum we also enter the clinic during the second year. Yes we take classes with med students, but so do a lot of other schools and the new curriculum has condensed these to get into the clinic earlier. Columbia's idea for this is that very often dentists only learn to drill and fill and don't know how the body functions as a whole (i.e. the periodontal disease atherosclerosis/thrombosis connection). I nearly didn't come to columbia b/c of negative things like this on the forum and elsewhere, but the reality is, it isn't true. Most of the bad things you here are people making up stuff or people propagating bad info that some friend of their's who never even interviewed here made up. Like i said, PM me if you want more info, but it is really sad/frustrating that these rumors are out there just bc people want to hate. At this point it really is impossible for anyone other than a D1 at columbia to tell you how it is since the new curriculum is something that none of the other classes have gone through yet (and people who just say what they think or what they think they know are usually wrong).

Good to hear that the changes in the curriculum have made a positive difference in this regard. I didn't go there in part because of hearing about the lack of clinic time from the students at my interview.
In general though, people need to relax about criticizing other schools so much on here. You should make the decision based on what YOU experience and what you hear from the people who are actually THERE. Anybody can post anything on the internet.