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There are no dentist on Mt.Priviledge, maybe like a small hill somewhere they can go
Well there for sure aren't any dentists on top of mount privi-LEDGE...
There are no dentist on Mt.Priviledge, maybe like a small hill somewhere they can go
There are no dentist on Mt.Priviledge, maybe like a small hill somewhere they can go
I think you're looking at it all wrong. Dermviser is everywhere on SDN. He's not following you, he's just... Everywhere.@DermViser , I'll probably block you from now on, its weird how you follow me around SDN commenting on ever post I make, I'm not attracted to men.
I'm aware it was sarcasm, you're not as brilliant as you think, and I've seen pics of you too.
can we please have another day of purging to get rid of some of these people in allo?
To OP,
Like, I think it was SouthernIM, said, your estimates of a hospitalist's salary are rather optimistic. And if you think Hospitalist is a great career, which I will neither contest nor support, then do it. Our opinions should be irrelevant to you, IMO.
Is that estimate really conservative? 225k? Legit asking, not contesting. For a non-uber competitive area of the country in a non-academic position. I've heard 250k is not unreasonable.
I simply meant to spark discussion about how good of a career (albeit temporary one) this seems for a young, single male. The quick time to income, potential to make more or specialize, or take large blocks of time off (a week allows some more meaningful things than two days typical to other specialties).
somebody please give your interpretation of what the point was, then we'll see who was closest.
@DermViser , I'll probably block you from now on, its weird how you follow me around SDN commenting on ever post I make, I'm not attracted to men.
Is that estimate really conservative? 225k? Legit asking, not contesting. For a non-uber competitive area of the country in a non-academic position. I've heard 250k is not unreasonable.
I simply meant to spark discussion about how good of a career (albeit temporary one) this seems for a young, single male. The quick time to income, potential to make more or specialize, or take large blocks of time off (a week allows some more meaningful things than two days typical to other specialties).
Is that estimate really conservative? 225k? Legit asking, not contesting. For a non-uber competitive area of the country in a non-academic position. I've heard 250k is not unreasonable.
I simply meant to spark discussion about how good of a career (albeit temporary one) this seems for a young, single male. The quick time to income, potential to make more or specialize, or take large blocks of time off (a week allows some more meaningful things than two days typical to other specialties).
I understand fully that academics is a skewed lens, but starting salary for hospitalists at my hospital is about 125K. From what I've heard from Medicine residents looking for hospitalist jobs at private hospitals in the area - they are looking at 175 for jobs elsewhere; 200-225 if they want to move to geographically/culturally undesirable areas 1-2 hours from here.
I'm far from an expert on the range of salaries involved, but you said "upwards of 300K a year" and "conservatively 225k". You're off by a hundred thousand in my neck of the woods
Eh, I'm not sure but I think the average Hospitalist salary is closer to 180-200k. Of course your income will depend on location, experience etc. I think 225 would be at the higher end of Hospitalist salary.Is that estimate really conservative? 225k? Legit asking, not contesting. For a non-uber competitive area of the country in a non-academic position. I've heard 250k is not unreasonable.
I simply meant to spark discussion about how good of a career (albeit temporary one) this seems for a young, single male. The quick time to income, potential to make more or specialize, or take large blocks of time off (a week allows some more meaningful things than two days typical to other specialties).
Oh wow, CHAOS ORB!!!!!
And you can moonlight in the ER if you want to.
Eh, I'm not sure but I think the average Hospitalist salary is closer to 180-200k. Of course your income will depend on location, experience etc. I think 225 would be at the higher end of Hospitalist salary.
Upwards of $300k with moonlighting and a decent base pay. Is that unreasonable too?
And $125k?
You're kind of right.maybe in 2009.
I believe the 300k mentioned included money made moonlightingYou're kind of right.
http://www1.salary.com/Physician-Hospitalist-salary.html
75th percentile makes about 230k. Presumably, it would take a while to end up at that point. My estimates were slightly low, but 300k and similar numbers are extremely unlikely.
You're kind of right.
http://www1.salary.com/Physician-Hospitalist-salary.html
75th percentile makes about 230k. Presumably, it would take a while to end up at that point. My estimates were slightly low, but 300k and similar numbers are extremely unlikely.
No, I completely agree. Like I said its an average, if you will, of the median. It doesn't account for regional factors, different types of practice, experience etc. 230k is 75th percentile, and that's not neccesarily a quick road. But what do I know?Right but that's the average for all hospitalists, not for the start of the career. It also doesn't account for regional and academic/private distinctions. As I said If you want to move from my town to the armpit of America two hours away you can get 225, but not here.
And the whole moonlighting thing - (a) opportunities for ED moonlighting are next to nonexistent and (b) kind of cuts into that GOAT lifestyle clubbing on your week off, no?
I think @Perrotfish nailed it. The market reveals a lot and the fact that people aren't flocking to this career fact speaks for itself
Give me about 3 more weeks to get PMS again and I'll see what I can do.can we please have another day of purging to get rid of some of these people in allo?
Same here.I understand fully that academics is a skewed lens, but starting salary for hospitalists at my hospital is about 125K. From what I've heard from Medicine residents looking for hospitalist jobs at private hospitals in the area - they are looking at 175 for jobs elsewhere; 200-225 if they want to move to geographically/culturally undesirable areas 1-2 hours from here.
I'm far from an expert on the range of salaries involved, but you said "upwards of 300K a year" and "conservatively 225k". You're off by a hundred thousand in my neck of the woods
I'd rather do EM. $200-250/hr shift work ftw.
Again, I am a believer in efficient markets. The problem with chasing easy money is that when you get there odds are both the easiness and the money will be gone. For reference see bit coins, pets.com stock, and a career in Radiology. Don't buy at the peak of a bubble.
Aren't radiologists making big bucks?
Again, I am a believer in efficient markets. The problem with chasing easy money is that when you get there odds are both the easiness and the money will be gone. For reference see bit coins, pets.com stock, and a career in Radiology. Don't buy at the peak of a bubble.
My vote is for PM&R.Great contributions to this thread.
What do you see as "the next big thing"? What is a good field to "buy into" right now? GI? Derm? I guess Derm isn't easy to get, nor is GI.
Great contributions to this thread.
What do you see as "the next big thing"? What is a good field to "buy into" right now? GI? Derm? I guess Derm isn't easy to get, nor is GI.
$250/hr? This is 400k+/yr on a 32 hrs/wk... That kind of salary must be in the middle of nowhere for EM.I'd rather do EM. $200-250/hr shift work ftw.
Life is long and you're going to spend more than half your waking hours at the office. Choose something you'd be proud to do. Choose something that you'd like to do. Don't chase easy money. Odds are it won't be there, or it won't be easy. And if by some chance you do stumble on to easy money then odds are it won't solve any of your problems.
I chose Peds, BTW. I would choose it again.
$250/hr? This is 400k+/yr on a 32 hrs/wk... That kind of salary must be in the middle of nowhere for EM.
What do you see as "the next big thing"? What is a good field to "buy into" right now?
Who is Yakub 7 Ali?Omnipotent Derm
I understand fully that academics is a skewed lens, but starting salary for hospitalists at my hospital is about 125K.
Good grief, I got so depressed just reading that.Lol. I'm not going to rag on your OP. I remember being of a similar frame of mind. As you progress through this vile process, you'll most likely come to realize it's not what it may seem from the outside. You see one week on, one week off, and picture strutting along the hallowed halls of some pristine institution during work, then gallivanting around Barbados on the week off. The reality? Hospitalist work is an absolute nightmare. You're the scut factory of the hospital. Punished with an overwhelming amount of admissions, documentation, social work, and disturbing minutiae. The week off? Oh, yeah. The first 3 days off are spent in recovery from the preceding week. The three days before you start work again are spent in a nauseous dread of the week to come, wondering how on God's green earth you ended up doing this for a living. I guess that gives you one day to enjoy yourself. That's probably the day you'll start feeding your nascent alcoholism.
I feel most sorry for people who went thru medical school who aimed and got Radiology when salaries were like $450-$500K (so quite competitive) and now as they are graduating from residency, they aren't getting those jobs. They obviously like it for other reasons (not having to do mundane patient care documentation and tasks), but it's still daunting.They went through an enormous salary boom with the invention of axial imaging, then they peaked, and they are increasingly outsourced and automated. Other than interventional radiologists their salaries are now declining, the market is getting saturated, and the step 1 scores/fill rate for the field is going down. Still not a bad field to be finishing residency in right now, but there's no clear floor for salaries and by medical career standards its a pretty good example of a bubble.