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Discussion in 'Podiatry Students' started by sunyplatt, May 11, 2018.
Just curious if Pod school seems more difficult or easier than what was expected.
Harder or easier when compared to Undergrad?- definitely harder. I mean it is a medical school so you are taking classes during the first two years (for the most part) that any other MD/DO students are taking, granted the examinations might differ. Classes are not difficult if you put in the time but it is the material that you have to know for each exam. So, self-discipline and time management skills will be your best friends during that first term and beyond.
A little bit of both.
Background: B.S. and Masters non-SMP +working + MCAT. Research no pubs ECs and work experience were all great.
Low stats (3.3c/ 2.8s) 487-- 493-- 496
Going in I was very worried about course load. Never took more than 13-15 credit hours in undergrad.
1st semester: Kicked my ass.
-hard because you are learning how to learn.
-time management (will get to this in a bit)
-the insane amount of material in the short amount of time
-No, this is not medical school on easy mode.
2nd semester: Manageable. Less stressed. Felt more confident.
-Learned how to learn. Figure out what professors emphasize. Figure out how they word exams. Figure out what they like to put on exams.
-Time: is now a commodity. You want to get home a little eariler? Make that studying time count. You want to go on that date with your wife? Make that studying time count. You want to have time to review for another class instead of cramming each consecutive day? Make that studying time count. Time management is about prioritizing your study time and actually using it to study and gtfo. So you can spend more time doing the things you like.
- The course load is intense. 18-23 credit hours per semester. Usually on campus from 8 or 9- 5pm. Go home eat dinner with wife-- back at it 7-12am during exam weeks. Long days. Even longer days when you have clinicals then the next day you have an exam.
And finally: No it is not easier than medical school. Get off your high horse. I understand some individuals will go in and ace every exam regardless of what profession they choose. Those are the small and very few exceptions. I was not one of them. I am in the lower 1/2 of the class just by gauging averages. Am I on probation? No. Is it an uphill battle in certain courses to pass? Yes. Am I passing 90% of my classes with at least Bs? Yes.
If you are willing to put in the work and time, there is absolutely no reason you should be failing out. Yes there are always caveats to this- personal problems, **** happens, you struggle with a specific class, professor is just s*** at their job. However I fully believe you can succeed if you want it bad enough and are willing to learn smarter, and spend your time more efficiently. This coming from someone who did not think they would make it past 1st semester. Seriously I thought I would've flunked out by now. The school knows they took a chance on me when they accepted me. So far am doing well.
Another thing regarding the pissing contest with pre-meds:
1. Premeds may look down on you for considering this profession. Your relatives may look down on you. They may attribute this to podiatric medical school being easier. It is not. If you don't believe me, compare the curriculum and credit hours yourself.
2. I have a sibling who started a mid tier USMD the same time I started podiatric medical school. We swap stories all the time. I know exactly what he's talking about and he knows what I talk about. Are the curriculums set up a little differently? Yes. Is podiatric medical school any easier? No. If you don't believe me, apply, get in, and see for yourself.
3. Premeds love to talk s*** until they actually get into professional grad school or get a dose of real life. For some of us, podiatric medicine was our last shot at being in a healthcare field that would push us. I did not have the stats for MD/DO. I knew I could get into optometry, PA, PT, Chiro (being realistic). I was ashamed of entering podiatry even after I got accepted and started. I was scared of bringing it up to my sibling who was at a USMD. But the more we talked, the more he realized how hard and thorough our schooling was. I respected the amount of work he put in every day and he respected my education.
We both know we have specific roles to fill, and honestly its a lot of fun to compare the similarities (Aw yeah physio sucks there? It sucks here too). Its also fun looking at all the quirks our respective programs and professions offer. He thought it was cool we had surgical training during our schooling. I thought it was cool the amount of variety he could choose from (pending Step score of course).
Was it harder than I anticipated? Yes.
Was it easier than I anticipated after surviving 1 semester and being able to stay in the program? Yes.
True words. Every pre-pod/pod should read this!
Wierdy's response should be a sticky not only for Pod but for MD/DO students as well. Thanks for the info dude.
What do you feel about it now?
Feel great. Made a lot of good friends and learning a ton.
I'm not gonna go out and pick fights with MD/DO students, but I know where we stand as a profession and am not afraid to correct inaccurate statements.
Changing the perception of the profession starts within. Do a good job and others will recognize it.
Put school first, bust your butt studying and you can succeed.
It's not that bad. Boards being P/F helps as well. Although you'll probably embarrass yourself at interviews if you manage to get by without actually knowing your **** at that point. Most people who shouldn't be there are weeded out by then anyway
WesternU pod here, it's definitely harder compared to my undergraduate education. We had 36 units this semester and we take all basic sciences with our fellow DO students. While it is a lot, all the students are incredibly supportive and everyone shares resources and helps each other out. Once you figure out how you learn best (auditory/visual/kinesthetic) and apply it, it all becomes more manageable. Med school is also incredibly taxing, and it's important to find ways to manage your stress and make time for yourself! Finding a supportive group of study buddies can really help you when you're feeling discouraged or unmotivated.
And to add onto Weirdy regarding those MD/DOs, all the DOs I've met have been very interested in learning about podiatry and what podiatry is. They also crack our backs/necks sometimes, and we all really appreciate it. We also volunteer with UCLA medical students at homeless foot clinics, and they're always very interested in learning more about podiatry and learning about podiatric procedures from us.
Do the DOs take more credits/classes than the pod students or are they taking the same 36 credit hours?
They take 36 units too! We each have 6 units dedicated to podiatric medicine classes (pods) and OMM (DO).
It's easier in the sense that I psyched myself out before going in and found that it's not HARD to get through, just time consuming.
It's also harder in the sense that you can never prepare for the burnout and fatigue you experience, especially through the 2nd year. While I'm nervous about going into clinic where you have REAL consequences an actually have to know stuff and not just regurgitate it on an exam, I'm also excited to just not have to sit on my ass and study 10 hours a day.
It is more manageable than i thought it would be.
I am similar to weirdy in that i was accepted with lower stats (i think 2.3 sgpa and 2.7gpa) but with a decent mcat (499). But going in to school i had the mindset that this is my last chance to prove to myself that i could do it. I knew that i stretched myself too thin in undergrad with work, volunteering, and clubs so i decided to just focus on school for the first year of podiatry school.
I didnt magically turn into a 4.0 student but i ended by 1st year within the 3’s and i am damn proud of myself. I worked hard and i finally figured out how to study and retain information. I also think i chose a really difficult route because NYCPM has 2 tests a week compared to if i went to kent which seemed a lot more relaxed.
As with what weirdy said podiatry school is 100% doable. The people i see having to retest are typically the ones that party too much (theres a time and place for everything). Just focus and never be afraid to ask for help! Whether it be from a classmate, professor, or tutor before its too late.