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---WHY ARE YOU GOING INTO SURGERY?
docmemi said:you only live once, why surgery? why deal with very ill patients? why not just be a simple dr with a private practice, have a family, do other things on the weekend and enjoy your life?
the impression i have is that if you become a surgeon, that becomes your life! you cant just go out of town or have fun at night...you have to be back at the hospital at 7am to round 7 days a week for the rest of your life!
any thoughts from you surgeons out there? thanks.
docmemi said:you only live once, why surgery? why deal with very ill patients? why not just be a simple dr with a private practice, have a family, do other things on the weekend and enjoy your life?
doc05 said:dudes, why not just ignore this shmoe's post?? obviously a silly first-year med student without any idea what he's talking about.
Bo Hurley said:Why become a jet pilot, why try to become an astronaut, why try to make it big as an actor, why do anything difficult and not mainstream?
Any shmuck can get married and have a family. It's called the average life. Get to work by 9a.m., home by about 6p.m., dinner with the family, watch some T.V., go to bed...repeat over and over and over. Oh yeah some free time on the weekends to do other ordinary things most other ordinary people do. All the while regretting that you didn't take chances and do more with your life.
But you can settle for the "normal" life if you want. 99.9% of the population has.
powermd said:To Daelroy-
That was a pretty mean-spirited post. What the fu@k do you care if someone you don't know wants to spend their life this way? Maybe you should be happy there ARE people willing to make sacrifices in lifestyle to do the important life-saving work of surgery. I guarantee if you showed up to an ER at 3am on a weekend with a hot appendix you would kiss the feet of the surgeon who was available to save your life (and maybe even the anesthesiologist too). All medical fields are important and different people have different values- and that's a great thing.
GucciMD said:You are all clueless. My exhusband is a Surgeon who gets 13 weeks vacation a year and earns about 300,000.
Residency life is cruel for surgery but afterward life can be very sweet.
Just read some job descriptions on careermd.com
Good Luck and become a surgeon because you love it not the money.
GucciMD said:You are all clueless. My exhusband is a Surgeon who gets 13 weeks vacation a year and earns about 300,000.
Residency life is cruel for surgery but afterward life can be very sweet.
Just read some job descriptions on careermd.com
Good Luck and become a surgeon because you love it not the money.
shahkg said:This guy is a first year Med student? Haha oh boy 😀
I remember when I was there, I didn't know anything. You'll probably change your mind about what you want to do 100 times. Concentrate on your grades, study hard, and don't start worrying for two more years.
docmemi said:you only live once, why surgery? why deal with very ill patients?
daelroy said:You're breaking my heart. Did you read Bo Hurley's thread? If you want to talk about arrogance just read that thread again. As if "normal" people are bad. He compared actors, astronauts and jet pilots to surgeonss implying that surgeons were somehow better than normal people. Yeah, it's nice to see that you said nothing in regards to his post, I wonder why. Maybe it's because it spoke well of surgeons and that you are obviously biased. At least be fair with your criticism. My response was arrogant and it was purposely written with that in mind to bring Bo back down to earth.
LADoc00 said:This is true.
As a surgeon, your skills are completely portable, youre recession proof, protected.
Brass_Monkey said:Um......well, because you're dumb.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! All those things will veritably happen to you. But the point is that your heart is so saturated with surgery that you still want it even if wanting it leaves you : Large- single- insomniac- dangerously close to balding. Even my Progam director just got divorced. Again the marrow of the conversation is that YOU STILL LOVE surgery despite all this.PERIODdaelroy said:If taking chances mean
1. Your wife will divorce you
2. You will never sleep
3. You will start balding prematurely due to stress
4. You will develop a pot belly due to a lack of exercise and being limited to fast food because you don't have time to cook.
5. Not be able to plan vacations and join your radiologist and optho friends who go to Las Vegas and LA for the weekend to party and spend their money because you are on call.
6. You fail to get laid in real life because women assoicate surgeon with Christian Troi and Extreme Makover and you fit neither of these.
7. Wishing you went into radiology, gas, GI and other lifestyle fields when you discover the image you conceived as an MS4 didn't translate to more than being a glorified indentured servant who lives at the hospital.
Divorce, Obesity, Lack of Sleep, Lawsuits, Being over-worked...yeah this is so unique and unlike any NORMAL American worker today.
If you want to be unique, go into radiology and use your 6-8 weeks of vacation each year to travel the world....first class.
👍 I know I may never get married. Infact most men dont want to tie the knot with a female who carves Gall bladders and thyroids out of people for a living . The offsprings if ,and when, there are any, get a totally turbulent upbringing as the mom is boveying because she just cant get enuf of that smell of burnt flesh. 😀Bo Hurley said:When did I say "normal" people are "bad"? I've said some people want more than the normal life, and to get that you have to live a life that isn't routine like most other people. It's a choice: Most people don't have it in them to go against the grain and so just settle for the normal life like everyone else while others want more. And as one saying I've heard goes: "Most people don't become surgeons not because they don't want to, but rather because they couldn't." The same applies to other high achieving careers. Not everyone can be a jet pilot, movie star, formula 1 driver, great author, great artist, etc. Doesn't mean they don't want to be one though.
Bo Hurley said:And as one saying I've heard goes: "Most people don't become surgeons not because they don't want to, but rather because they couldn't." The same applies to other high achieving careers. Not everyone can be a jet pilot, movie star, formula 1 driver, great author, great artist, etc. Doesn't mean they don't want to be one though.
Whisker Barrel Cortex said:What a crock. If you're talking about people not in medical school, maybe you have a point. The majority of people in med school "could" have done surgery. Most of them, me included, truly didn't want to be a surgeon. Don't let your ego get out of control. The majority of other specialists could have done your job if they enjoyed it.
Leukocyte said:Dudes....If you want to go into General Surgery, then by all means, please do. I do not care, nor does the general public. Its your life, do whatever you want with it. Just please, do not bi*ch and moan during your 5-6 year residency (and do not dispalce your "anger and bitterness" onto the residents, medical students, and the OR staff when you become an attending) beacuse my friends, no one will feel sorry for you since you, and you alone, made the decision to make GS you life's career.
Good Luck. 🙄
My my. So much for thinking that we will never treat students the way we were treated...Silly first year? And what are you? A world class attending? Or an ALMOST pitiful intern??? Please do your best not to perpetuate the hazing of medical students.doc05 said:dudes, why not just ignore this shmoe's post?? obviously a silly first-year med student without any idea what he's talking about.
Bo Hurley said:Could've, should've, would've....
That's what I keep hearing from people who didn't go into surgery. Bottom line though is that they didn't, and often they try to explain why by bringing up their family, lack of free time, blah, blah, blah.
And it's usually people in the cake specialties (i.e. anesthesiology, radiology, etc) who keep talking about how they "could've" been a surgeon. 🙄
Denial said:👍 I know I may never get married. Infact most men dont want to tie the knot with a female who carves Gall bladders and thyroids out of people for a living . The offsprings if ,and when, there are any, get a totally turbulent upbringing as the mom is boveying because she just cant get enuf of that smell of burnt flesh. 😀
Whisker Barrel Cortex said:Seriously, you need to get over yourself. I have no reason to explain why I didn't do surgery, I just didn't want to do it. Period. Maybe you didn't understand that statement. I'll repeat it. Just as you didn't want to be a radiologist, I didn't want to be surgeon. Its pretty easy to understand, if you can see past your frickin ego.
By the way, most of the "should've" comments come from surgery regarding radiology or anesthesiology, not the other way around.![]()
Celiac Plexus said:to all my sdn peeps reading this... just pick your poison (thoughtfully and for your own reasons) and then go for it full-force.
Celiac Plexus said:look peeps,
just find your thing and go for it. if you love surgery, then do it. if you love family practice, radiology, im, whatever, then do it and be happy.
Bo Hurley said:The question remains: Why is a radiology resident like you trolling on the surgery forum?
That alone speaks volumes.
Is it regret?
Celiac Plexus said:i think that a lot of the angst-ridden "why do surgery" posts stem from the fact that there is a perception that surgery residency is the most difficult residency out there. and most medical students equate "most difficult" with "best", or "most prestigious". this thinking that we must always choose the most difficult path, and excel in this difficult path, must be abandoned when choosing a specialty.
Bo Hurley said:The question remains: Why is a radiology resident like you trolling on the surgery forum?
That alone speaks volumes.
Is it regret?
akg1974 said:You guys are right on!!!
Go SUURRRRRRRRRGERRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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Bo Hurley said:When did I say "normal" people are "bad"? I've said some people want more than the normal life, and to get that you have to live a life that isn't routine like most other people. It's a choice: Most people don't have it in them to go against the grain and so just settle for the normal life like everyone else while others want more. And as one saying I've heard goes: "Most people don't become surgeons not because they don't want to, but rather because they couldn't." The same applies to other high achieving careers. Not everyone can be a jet pilot, movie star, formula 1 driver, great author, great artist, etc. Doesn't mean they don't want to be one though.