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Dr Eleanor

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I was afraid to check my scores because I was terrified of getting a 21 or 22. It's even worse. I got a 17. I have a 3.7 GPA and I got a 17. I studied all summer and took practice tests and usually got in the mid 20's. I thought I'd end up with a 24 or 25. My goal was osteopathic schools so I was fine with that. I never dreamed I'd get a 17.

I don't know where to go now. What do I do? I could study but I don't even trust my study methods. Am I just too bad off to do well on the MCAT? I've heard from people who said they never even studied and took the MCAT to get a 21. How could I have scored so low? I don't get it.

I already submitted my AACOMAS primary but I guess there's no point in filling out secondaries. I don't know what to do. Any advice?

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I'm taking a year off before appying, so my opinion might not be worth as much as some other people's on this site. That being said, you're right that you probably don't have much of a chance of being accepted with that low of a score. I don't know how to "back out" of the application process, but I would probably give up applying this cycle and wait for next year. However, DON'T GIVE UP! There are several people on this site that have raised their MCAT scores from low 20's to low/mid 30's. It might be worthwhile to do a search for those threads (something like "raised MCAT score" and see what they did to improve their scores so drastically.

You will have to change your studying methods the next time you study. It's evident from your high GPA that you're smart, so it's probably your studying method that's the problem. If you have the money to take a course, take one. Regardless, go over ALL of your material again and make sure you know it. Take notes on all the chapters. Make flash cards for Orgo. Memorize and know all the physics equations. Make flash cards or vocab lists of the biological systems. Make sure you understand relationships for General Chemistry.

Near the end of your reviewing start taking full length exams. A lot of them. The AAMC website offers 9, I believe. If you're on a budget, order at least the most recent ones (the most recent are the most updated and therefore the most helpful). After you've taken the exam, review where you went wrong. I made a list of all the questions I got wrong, and what the correct answers were. By making a list, you can identify which questions you continually are missing. Then, go back and re-read the material for the sections you got wrong if you still don't understand it or didn't know the answer. If your problem is simply that you're not finishing in time, taking practice tests within time constraints will help.

Finally, whatever study method you have, branch out. Browse through books from Princeton Review, Kaplan, ExamKrackers, or Gold Standard and buy the ones you think could help you, in addition to your main studying method. For example, I studied with ExamKrackers, but found a Kaplan Book ($30 at Barnes and Noble) with 2 computer-based tests to be very helpful. I also bought a seperate book to help with the Writing section.

It sucks that you didn't get the score you wanted to. But study hard and re-take the exam only when you're positive that you can improve by at least 5 points or more. The normal amount of time people spend studying is at least 10 weeks. You should be studying at least 2-3 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week. If you're still in school, it's definitely more difficult to study, but you can make time. In that case, I'd block out at least 14 weeks to study because there are just some days you won't be able to study. Make sure you have covered all the material 2 weeks before you exam. By the final week before the exam, you should know where your weaknesses are and focus your attention on those areas. I received a 33 on the exam by studying this way, so I hope my experiences can help you. Good luck!
 
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Hey Eleanor, mind if I ask you how you were studying for the test? With a 3.7GPA you're obviously smart enough to do well on the MCAT, so I suspect maybe you're just approaching it wrong. Please don't take offense, but repeatedly getting mid-20s on the practice tests w/ no improvement suggests you weren't really understanding the questions, or were not understanding the process, or something like that. Answer here or on forum PMs, I'll be happy to try to help :)

BTW, I wish I had your GPA... mine's a 3.5, BARELY :\
 

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Dr. Eleanor, have you thought about taking a prep class. It's worth it, in my opinion despite the cost.
 
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Dr. Eleanor, have you thought about taking a prep class. It's worth it, in my opinion despite the cost.

I'm gonna be the devil's advocate here and disagree -- I took a prep class before my 2002 MCAT and I felt like it just encouraged me to slack off. Cuz being taught by the "pros" made me feel like I was already getting an edge, and also being in a class full of other confused students made me feel like I had less to worry about. I ended up overconfident and underprepared and I don't feel like I performed to my full ability in 2002 (though tbh it was probably lucky I didn't, because then I'd have to try to beat that score this time round!) So I really didn't think it was worth the $1600 or whatever that I paid.

Anyway, I ended up going to grad school instead after college. So my MCAT scores expired and I had to do it again. This time round I studied by myself, very intensively, for about 6 weeks. I also read through the materials last year when I was contemplating the MCAT, but that was so long ago that really my review was the 6 weeks I spent this year. My score went up 4 points from my first MCAT, and I think it was largely because when I worked on my own I could set my own pace, focus on stuff I was weak on, and not get lulled into a sense of false security by the combination of "professional" teachers and other confused students :p Total cost this time round: $200, most of which I hope to regain when I sell my books :p
 

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^ Well of course opinions are going to differ. It depends on each person.

For me, I really liked the structure and the format that TPR presented to me. Because they kept bombarding me with homeworks and passages, I found myself studying instead of slacking off. The numerous books they give you are totally awesome. There are so many practice passages to practice on that it's ridiculous.
The actual lectures you attend are great, too. They give you brief yet complete review of each topic and I found them really helpful.
So of course some people might dislike such a strict schedule. But for me, it worked fine and I did better on the real deal than I could have ever expected. But then again, it's up to you.
 

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I'm not sure about that...I have a 3.7 GPA not because I am smart, but I have studied my butt off. And obviously that studying method of mine didn't work for MCAT. I did too bomb the MCAT!!!!
Hey Eleanor, mind if I ask you how you were studying for the test? With a 3.7GPA you're obviously smart enough to do well on the MCAT, so I suspect maybe you're just approaching it wrong. Please don't take offense, but repeatedly getting mid-20s on the practice tests w/ no improvement suggests you weren't really understanding the questions, or were not understanding the process, or something like that. Answer here or on forum PMs, I'll be happy to try to help :)

BTW, I wish I had your GPA... mine's a 3.5, BARELY :\
 

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I was afraid to check my scores because I was terrified of getting a 21 or 22. It's even worse. I got a 17. I have a 3.7 GPA and I got a 17. I studied all summer and took practice tests and usually got in the mid 20's. I thought I'd end up with a 24 or 25. My goal was osteopathic schools so I was fine with that. I never dreamed I'd get a 17.

I don't know where to go now. What do I do? I could study but I don't even trust my study methods. Am I just too bad off to do well on the MCAT? I've heard from people who said they never even studied and took the MCAT to get a 21. How could I have scored so low? I don't get it.

I already submitted my AACOMAS primary but I guess there's no point in filling out secondaries. I don't know what to do. Any advice?
Take some time off before you start studying for the MCAT again, and retake for the next cycle.

If you didn't take a prep course, take a prep course.
 

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hi Eleanor
i totally was in your shoes and still am. i scored 17 than a 22 and now i will retake again in jan.
i also have a 3.72 gpa and i study very hard but unfortunately that doesnt work for the mcat. so now i am registered to take the berkely review prep course. if u have any questions please keep in touch
 

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Don't give up, believe your study methods are okay. You could benefit from a prep class or even buying more preparation books like EXAM krackers. Also you could take the year off volunteering become a better matriculate and knock down those applications next year. Just keep going everyone has those bad test days. If you want to become a doctor really badly then do it get more prepared to the point you know you have it down.
 

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Without more knowledge about how you studied, it's hard for anyone to give you concrete advice outside of, "good luck/don't give up" type of statements. Post up what you did so we can all work through this problem.
 

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A part of me wants to say keep going regardless, but my opinion is to explore this forum, see what worked for other people, and try again. That score is just too low, and with a GPA that you have, you will have a tough time justifying and explaining how you can prepare for school courses but not for the MCAT.

The good news is that once you revamp and try it again, and beat the test into the ground, you can just call that 17 a complete fluke!

keep it up.
 

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I'll add to NSA's advice by saying -- probably the worst thing you can do is get another 17 and make it look like a trend, not a fluke. So to avoid that, I'd suggest not taking the test until you're scoring well enough in the practice tests to "guarantee" yourself your target score.

Since you're shooting for 25+, you should conservatively estimate that you'll need at least an average of 30+ on the practice tests in case your score again falls 5 pts from practice to reality. Actually I DOUBT you'll drop 5 points again, as a lot of that was probably nerves, but still you should go in with a big "safety net". And just think how awesome it would look if you went from 17 to 30+!

So work hard, keep chugging, and don't be afraid to delay your test date a little if you don't think you're ready :) GL!
 

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i was getting 30-33 on every practice exam, and like you, i studied all summer long for this exam.

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i got a 24
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so yeah, im really upset and like "wtf happened there"...but sometimes we just have bad days, and get bad scores. maybe we were just unprepared. point is, it happens, but all we can do is just try again. If you want it bad enough, you can get over the dissapointments because you know you can do better!

good luck!
 

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I'll second elementals's advice, but keep in mind that it's pretty unlikely you'll score so much lower than your practice average again. I think a prep course might be good for you because it sounds like it's possible that you're working harder, not smarter. Perhaps a little guidance is all you need to get the information down well and rock the MCAT.
 
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I'll second elementals's advice, but keep in mind that it's pretty unlikely you'll score so much lower than your practice average again. I think a prep course might be good for you because it sounds like it's possible that you're working harder, not smarter. Perhaps a little guidance is all you need to get the information down well and rock the MCAT.
Which test are you getting scores back today?
 
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