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Ivy League Schools-Northwestern

Discussion in 'Medical Students - MD' started by opel, Mar 27, 2002.

  1. opel

    opel Senior Member

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    First of all how many ivy league schools are there and from where did they get the name. Also, is Northwestern considered an Ivy league school?
    I know this is probably a stupid question but I had to ask it.
     
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  3. ussdfiant

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    I can answer part of your question. There are 8 ivy league schools: University of Pennsylvania (Go Quakers!), Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown. Northwestern is not an ivy league school.
     
  4. Stillfocused

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    The Ivy League dates back to the "IV League", or the four schools that made one the country's first collegiate sports leagues; Harvard, Yale, Princeton and I think, Penn.

    It does NOT refer to green, creeping vines. :p

    Interestingly, I have heard that some Patriot League Schools like Colgate Army and Navy were once part of the Ivy. But, that they either left or were kicked out. Any sports buffs wanna set the record completely straight?
     
  5. Stillfocused

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    Notherwestern is a Big Ten School.
     
  6. Kluver Bucy

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    The term "Ivy League" was coined in the 1930s by two New York Herald Tribune sportswriters: Caswell Adams and Stanley Woodward.
     
  7. choker

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    the last post is right. it was termed by a writer in the new york herald tribune in the 1920s/1930s. also, the first 4 ivies were harvard, columbia (not penn), yale, and princeton.
     
  8. CUarzt

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    these four schools (IV mentioned earlier), didn't give sports scholarships to their athlete students. supposedly it's the same with the others.

    my $.02
     
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    what are the other Big Ten schools?
    and what is that categorization referring to?
     
  10. sandflea

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    the 'big ten' is an athletic conference, just like the pac-10, the ivy league (technically), etc, etc. the other big ten schools besides northwestern (who is really at odds in this conference) are michigan, illinois, wisconsin, indiana, iowa, michigan state, penn state, ohio state, and minnesota.

    even though that's 10 schools, i still feel like i'm leaving someone out....
     
  11. doughboy

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    You forgot Purdue.
     
  12. dingiswayo

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    when the Big 10 added Penn St a few years back, they didn't change the name. they just stylized the logo so that the spaces next to the letter "T" in "ten" look like the number "11." pretty clever. so yes, there are eleven teams in the big ten.
     
  13. Fermi

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sandflea:
    [QB]the 'big ten' is an athletic conference, just like the pac-10, the ivy league (technically), etc, etc. the other big ten schools besides northwestern (who is really at odds in this conference) are michigan, illinois, wisconsin, indiana, iowa, michigan state, penn state, ohio state, and minnesota.[QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, although the Big Ten is only outwardly seen as an athletic conference of Midwestern state schools, its organization is based on academics and research. This is how conference membership is/was largely decided. All the schools are major research institutions with strong undergraduate, graduate and professional academic programs (from <a href="http://www.bigten.org/about/index.html)." target="_blank">http://www.bigten.org/about/index.html).</a>

    Northwestern shares these characteristics (and they can get it done on the field once in a while too!), so under this definition their membership makes sense. In fact, NU was one of the founding members of the conference, as was the University of Chicago who eventually dropped out. Indiana, Iowa, OSU, MSU, and PSU all joined later.

    There's the full answer, not that anyone asked :D
     
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    Kudos to you all! I am SO impressed! I like this thread much better... let's all talk about sports instead! The waitlist/acceptance/rejection stuff out there is starting to stress me out!
     
  15. Esco

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ferm:
    In fact, NU was one of the founding members of the conference, as was the University of Chicago who eventually dropped out. Indiana, Iowa, OSU, MSU, and PSU all joined later.

    There's the full answer, not that anyone asked :D [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just another little fun fact I bet no one knew...The University of Chicago had the first Heisman Trophy Winner(Jay Berwanger)---not bad for such an "egghead" institution...go maroons!
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dingiswayo:
    <strong>when the Big 10 added Penn St a few years back, they didn't change the name. they just stylized the logo so that the spaces next to the letter "T" in "ten" look like the number "11." pretty clever. so yes, there are eleven teams in the big ten.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hey i never noticed that 11. i must be blind.
     
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    great thread, go maroons!

    here's a a little u chicago sports history (I know, we've gone far away from the intended topic, but so what)

    <a href="http://www.uchicago.edu/student/athletics/history.htm" target="_blank">http://www.uchicago.edu/student/athletics/history.htm</a>

    it has interesting facts like the first heisman trophy winner mentioned above and,

    "In 1896, Chicago became a charter member of the Western Conference, which would later be known as the Big Ten Conference"

    "Amos Alonzo Stagg accepted the position of athletic director and football coach in 1890, nearly two years before the University opened its doors to students"
     
  19. SicVic

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    Here is some links that will give a clear origin of ivy school

    <a href="http://mondrian.princeton.edu/CampusWWW/Companion/ivy_league.html" target="_blank">http://mondrian.princeton.edu/CampusWWW/Companion/ivy_league.html</a>

    <a href="http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/19991110.html" target="_blank">ivy schs</a>
     
  20. sandflea

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by doughboy:
    <strong>You forgot Purdue.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thank you. i knew there were 11 schools in the big ten, but i couldn't figure out which one i was leaving out.
     
  21. sandflea

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ferm:
    <strong> Northwestern shares these characteristics (and they can get it done on the field once in a while too!), so under this definition their membership makes sense. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i just meant that northwestern is a relatively-small private institution versus the rest of the big ten schools that are gigantic state universities. that's all i meant. the fact that northwestern is a great academic institution that competes with the big boys in a major athletic conference was a huge selling point for me (i did my undergrad there, and big ten sports was definitely a big factor). yeah, they're the big ten doormat most of the time (although yes, they get it done every now and then!) but it's still pretty damn cool to see your school's football games on TV.
     

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