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I want to knw abt d job prospects after doin MHA in USA as an international graduate. Is it difficult to get a job??? I heard companies prefer only green card holders and citizens. Is it true?
 
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Unfortunately, this is true. I have several highly-skilled friends (like engineers) trying to find work here in the US and have had a lot of difficulty finding employers willing to sponsor them through the visa process, which is very expensive.

You may very well be able to find a job, I just wanted to let you know.
 
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I am aware of d fact about engineers, bt is it d same for MHA graduates too??
 
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I am aware of d fact about engineers, bt is it d same for MHA graduates too??
I think this is hard to determine. Jobs are difficult to obtain all around - and I suspect, more so for people from abroad trying to secure employment here in the States.

Your status says that you're a MD/PhD student. Why are you applying for a MHA?
 
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I think this is hard to determine. Jobs are difficult to obtain all around - and I suspect, more so for people from abroad trying to secure employment here in the States.

Your status says that you're a MD/PhD student. Why are you applying for a MHA?
hi
thanks for the reply
Yes i have done MBBS & MS(ENT) from India with work experience of more than 3years.
Actually i want to pursue my carer in Health administration so i have applied.
I was little worried about job status after MHA as i am an international graduate. I have also applied in canada- dalhosie univ.....as to get a Permanent residency is quite easy there as compared to USA. But i want to pursue my carer in states - which i prefer
 
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i talked with one of the students at Univ of Pitts and he said that in general placement rates are good and international students have to apply for H1b visa and that is also done by the employer.......
Dont know the rest......any other views?
 
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i talked with one of the students at Univ of Pitts and he said that in general placement rates are good and international students have to apply for H1b visa and that is also done by the employer.......
Dont know the rest......any other views?
I spoke with a lawyer who specializes in immigration and you're right. We need H1B sponsorship but the upside is hospitals are exempt from the cap so we have a higher chance of getting it. Also, do you know if there's a match list for Pitt? Thanks
 
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I spoke with a lawyer who specializes in immigration and you're right. We need H1B sponsorship but the upside is hospitals are exempt from the cap so we have a higher chance of getting it. Also, do you know if there's a match list for Pitt? Thanks
Also, if you don't mind me asking. Do you intend to practice medicine in the future as well or are you sticking with hospital administration? I am just curious as to why you are not utilizing your medical degree. I was premed and am now thinking of switching so your input will be helpful
 
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Also, if you don't mind me asking. Do you intend to practice medicine in the future as well or are you sticking with hospital administration? I am just curious as to why you are not utilizing your medical degree. I was premed and am now thinking of switching so your input will be helpful
hi
most likely i ll be stickin with MHA only as i have not given USMLE steps till now.....and i think we can get a decent job after MHA...
I dont know abt the match list but i have heard they ave good external relations , so i am hopin to find a decent job after graduation
have you chosen any school till now for MHA?
 
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most likely i ll be stickin with MHA only as i have not given USMLE steps till now.....and i think we can get a decent job after MHA...
I dont know abt the match list but i have heard they ave good external relations , so i am hopin to find a decent job after graduation
have you chosen any school till now for MHA?
I will be applying next year and have just started researching. Currently, I am looking at usc, hopkins, cornell and nyu. I'll probably PM you to find out what it's like as an international student at pitt mha in a few months!
 
May 9, 2013
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I also want to know about the job prospects after completing MHA from a top univ as an international graduate. I know most people work with health systems after MHA, but I am more inclined to work in healthcare consulting companies. what are the prospects for someone like me to get H1B visa sponsorship through a healthsystem or how many consulting companies hire out of such programs? If you know any international students in such programs and help each other connect with them, that will be great.

I am not sure if health systems, also visa cap exempt, will be willing to sponsor H1B.

Lets keep each other in loop. Will send across any info. I come across.

Thanks.
 
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I don't mean to be a downer, but I don't know if international students should bank on getting a job in the US in healthcare management. When I did my masters a couple years ago, there were a couple of my classmates who were international students. After graduation, they had several employers interested in hiring them, but unfortunately, neither of them were able to be hired because of the daunting process of getting an H1B. It is important to remember that the H1B visa is intended to fill gaps in the US, where there is an insufficient supply of citizen workers. This may be the case in engineering, but there tends to be a bit of a surplus for people going into healthcare management. So unless you (and the company that wants to hire you) can sufficiently document why hiring an non-citizen is advantageous and/or necessary, it can be challenging to secure the visa. However, I would imagine the odds are better in underserved and rural areas where there are difficulties attracting talent into those areas.
 

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Hi
I want to knw abt d job prospects after doin MHA in USA as an international graduate. Is it difficult to get a job??? I heard companies prefer only green card holders and citizens. Is it true?
Yeah thats true. until H1B reform happens which should be soon but u never know Congress, its going to be very very difficult to get a job in the US. Btw MBBS + MS (ENT) is not equivalent to MD/PhD. MBBS=MD but PhD is not equivalent to a masters, it requires more and higher quality research.

Either way, why are you doing MHA, when you should be applying for residency in the US? That way you actually can get an H1B (hospitals and other non profits aren't under the cap, but its still a hassle so many residencies won't do them but u can probably find one if you have good stats) and then do your MHA after residency and get a job much more easily.
 
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Hi Medstart 108
Ya i know H1b visa rules are goin to change( Dont know the outcome) ........I am plannin to give my USMLE steps and then apply for residency too.....I know competition there is tough but still gonna try

Do you know the placement rates after MHA for IMG's? Dont have much idea abt it.
 
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Hi Medstart 108
Ya i know H1b visa rules are goin to change( Dont know the outcome) ........I am plannin to give my USMLE steps and then apply for residency too.....I know competition there is tough but still gonna try

Do you know the placement rates after MHA for IMG's? Dont have much idea abt it.
ENT is competitive here even with high scores on usmle steps but if you are willing to try other specialties,you should really give it a good shot. MHA degree would be added bonus. I have no idea what the scope of MHA is with an international medical degree.
Message me if you need any help with books for usmle
 
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if the plan is to continue w/medicine and try the USMLE...it makes more sense to get a Masters in public health. That will be more informative and broader (in general)... than an MHA which won't support you as much in becoming a practicing MD. If you're not specifically interested in healthcare administration, then I think it's not wise to go for the degree. A MPH could be much more helpful in your practice as a physician
 
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Hey I plan to begin MHA in fall 2015. Is there anyone who is doing it already? Which university? Any hopes on the visa sponsorship?
 
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if the plan is to continue w/medicine and try the USMLE...it makes more sense to get a Masters in public health. That will be more informative and broader (in general)... than an MHA which won't support you as much in becoming a practicing MD. If you're not specifically interested in healthcare administration, then I think it's not wise to go for the degree. A MPH could be much more helpful in your practice as a physician
But does it matter as i have an interest in mha and would like to pursue clinical based field if the oppurtunity comes ..
 

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Hi
I want to knw abt d job prospects after doin MHA in USA as an international graduate. Is it difficult to get a job??? I heard companies prefer only green card holders and citizens. Is it true?

I am a prospective student of MHA. And I too want to know about the job prospects after doing MHA in USA for intl. students!!
Urgently help !!!!!
 

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I am a prospective student of MHA. And I too want to know about the job prospects after doing MHA in USA for intl. students!!
Urgently help !!!!!
Until visa or immigration reform substantially changes, foreign nationals still face difficult (permanent) job prospects after their student visas expire. There are many options out there, but getting a degree in the US is not a guarantee of gaining permanent status. Good luck on your decision.
 

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Until visa or immigration reform substantially changes, foreign nationals still face difficult (permanent) job prospects after their student visas expire. There are many options out there, but getting a degree in the US is not a guarantee of gaining permanent status. Good luck on your decision.
Due to the feedbacks that I've received for MHA off recently, I've altered my prospects to MPH in epidemiology!! Job or no job in the USA, could u tell me if graduating in Epidemilogy from a decent, lesser known college would have any disadvantages? As deadlines have passed for most of the colleges, I'm left with only a handful of em, being San Diego State University, University of Southern California, University of Texas, Yale University and Columbia University (the latter two admit students on rolling basis so chances are meagre)
 

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Due to the feedbacks that I've received for MHA off recently, I've altered my prospects to MPH in epidemiology!! Job or no job in the USA, could u tell me if graduating in Epidemilogy from a decent, lesser known college would have any disadvantages? As deadlines have passed for most of the colleges, I'm left with only a handful of em, being San Diego State University, University of Southern California, University of Texas, Yale University and Columbia University (the latter two admit students on rolling basis so chances are meagre)
Generally, the famous schools have a bit more brand recognition. However, beyond that, the merits of a school will lie with the strengths and weaknesses of each program. Of those schools, I attended Yale, so I only say that it is a small program with a dedicated faculty and close family-like atmosphere. That comes with both good and bad in that while you can get to know people well, there's limited areas of expertise compared to a bigger program.
 
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Due to the feedbacks that I've received for MHA off recently, I've altered my prospects to MPH in epidemiology!! Job or no job in the USA, could u tell me if graduating in Epidemilogy from a decent, lesser known college would have any disadvantages? As deadlines have passed for most of the colleges, I'm left with only a handful of em, being San Diego State University, University of Southern California, University of Texas, Yale University and Columbia University (the latter two admit students on rolling basis so chances are meagre)
It's honestly very regional. Local firms will recruit from those universities. I'm not sure your salary would be that different.
 
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Hi I am not looking for permanent residency, but want to work after MPH. I want to work till I am here as I cannot spend my life at home on h4 visa and only option is to get into a course. But if there are no chances of getting a job after the program, then it will be waste for me. Any suggestions?
 
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Hi Guys,

I'm a specialist Dentist from India. Currently interested in doing MHA in the USA. Over the last 5 days, I've done extensive research into the Universities, their fees, accreditation, duration, placement rates etc.

While all the Universities claim to have a placement rate of over 90% in 3 months of graduation, this thread is the ONLY place I've read so far, that describes the ground reality of the situation there. As a few responses above have held, I'm beginning to doubt the job prospects International students have post-MHA in the USA.

Having said that, do we know the exact educational background of these struggling individuals? Will someone with 2 Master's degrees (MDS and MHA) face the same job crunch as those graduates fresh out of MHA, but without a prior Master's in Medicine/Dentistry/Nursing? If US citizens themselves are saying there's shortage of jobs, is it correct to assume that an International Graduate may not actually find a job, and be kicked out of the country after graduating?

It's tough to answer my question, I know. But I'd like to hear from you guys. Am I taking a risky plunge of spending $50,000 - $80,000 only to find employers preferring Green card holders and US citizens? Is the situation that bad?

Feel free to PM me as well. What's the worst that could happen?

Thanks
 
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Until visa or immigration reform substantially changes, foreign nationals still face difficult (permanent) job prospects after their student visas expire. There are many options out there, but getting a degree in the US is not a guarantee of gaining permanent status. Good luck on your decision.
Hi there,

A very useful bit of information indeed.

Could I ask you though, would an International Student already holding a Master's be turned down at jobs with the same frequency as a fresh graduate without any other Master's degree (but an American citizen), assuming we're both MHA graduates from the same University?

What do you think?

Thanks
 
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Due to the feedbacks that I've received for MHA off recently, I've altered my prospects to MPH in epidemiology!! Job or no job in the USA, could u tell me if graduating in Epidemilogy from a decent, lesser known college would have any disadvantages? As deadlines have passed for most of the colleges, I'm left with only a handful of em, being San Diego State University, University of Southern California, University of Texas, Yale University and Columbia University (the latter two admit students on rolling basis so chances are meagre)

Hi!

I'm in the process of applying for MHA in the USA. I hold a Master's in Dentistry from India. I read about your decision to switch fields and that has left me shaky.

Could you please detail me on why you decided to dump the MHA pursuit?

Thanks
 

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Hi there,

A very useful bit of information indeed.

Could I ask you though, would an International Student already holding a Master's be turned down at jobs with the same frequency as a fresh graduate without any other Master's degree (but an American citizen), assuming we're both MHA graduates from the same University?

What do you think?

Thanks
I don't really know that specifically, but the process of acquiring visas is an expensive (and lengthy) process for the employer. Some companies have a no sponsorship attitude, some companies will go for the best candidates regardless of need for sponsorship. I think it also depends on the field--some fields simply have plenty of domestic candidates, so a foreign national may not be competitive for that reason.

Some fields (e.g. biostatistics), is a lot of foreign nationals.

This is just based on what I've seen though, I have no data to back this up.
 
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I don't really know that specifically, but the process of acquiring visas is an expensive (and lengthy) process for the employer. Some companies have a no sponsorship attitude, some companies will go for the best candidates regardless of need for sponsorship. I think it also depends on the field--some fields simply have plenty of domestic candidates, so a foreign national may not be competitive for that reason.

Some fields (e.g. biostatistics), is a lot of foreign nationals.

This is just based on what I've seen though, I have no data to back this up.

Thanks so much for your feedback.