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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by CaliBoy, Apr 3, 2002.

  1. CaliBoy

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    Well I was wondering why it was taking so long to hear back from Hopkins, but today I found out that I'm on the alternate list. I was wondering if any of you know about their alternate list, e.g. how long it is, how much movement there is, etc. I really loved Hopkins and its definitely still one of my top choices.
     
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  3. lyle

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    I interviewed at Hopkins in early Nov. and I am currently waitlisted. Here's what I know about the waitlist:

    It is ranked at the end of April and they will call you if you are accepted off of it. Also, the Stanford research thing that is somewhere on this network shows that Hopkins takes more people off the waitlist than every other competitive school. Last year, they offered 58 people acceptances after May 1. Best of luck.
     
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    Does anyone know if Hopkins has sent out their rejection letters yet? My app has been complete for over 4 months, and I never received an interview invitation. I'm sure I won't get one this late, but I'd like to have a little finality here, and know that I didn't pay the 2ndary app fee only to have them lose my application or something. Any info?
     
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    I just got my pre-interview rejection letter from Hopkins yesterday. I was wondering if they had lost my application too, but alas, it turns out that I was in fact, not good enough for them.
     
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    I'm waitlisted at Hopkins too... in the letter, I believe they said that we would be notified of where we are on the waiting list at the end of April. CaliBoy: is Hopkins your first choice? Where are you planning on going if you don't get in there?
     
  7. CaliBoy

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    Irongirl: Sent you a PM :)

    Thats great news to hear that they have good movement of the waitlist. Have any of you sent any additional letters (e.g. grade updates)??
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by lyle:
    <strong>I interviewed at Hopkins in early Nov. and I am currently waitlisted. Here's what I know about the waitlist:

    It is ranked at the end of April and they will call you if you are accepted off of it. Also, the Stanford research thing that is somewhere on this network shows that Hopkins takes more people off the waitlist than every other competitive school. Last year, they offered 58 people acceptances after May 1. Best of luck.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hey lyle: what is this 'stanford research' that you mention? can you give me a link to that information? i did a search on this site but could not find anything. thanks. rkr
     
  9. lyle

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    I just found the link. When the PDF file opens, page down until you come to the page that says Admissions Data 2001 at the top. Basically, it's a comparison between 13 of the top schools in the counrty: harvard, yale, penn, cornell, columbia, duke, hopkins, pitt, etc... and it lists #of apps, # of interviews, # accepted, %matriculation, and most imporantly for us waitlisted people, # of acceptances offered after may (and they break it down by month!)

    here is the link:
    <a href="http://www.med.stanford.edu/senate/01-02/01-11-14%20Att%20B1%20Admissions%20Report.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.med.stanford.edu/senate/01-02/01-11-14%20Att%20B1%20Admissions%20Report.pdf</a>
     
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    One more thing. What did you guys think of Hopkins? Before I interviewed there, I heard that the place was "stress-fest". But when I visited, I got the impression that no one was so stressed out, and all the students were quite down to earth, friendly, and happy with their choice in school.

    Just wondering. Where are you guys going at this point in the process?
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by lyle:
    <strong>I just found the link. When the PDF file opens, page down until you come to the page that says Admissions Data 2001 at the top. Basically, it's a comparison between 13 of the top schools in the counrty: harvard, yale, penn, cornell, columbia, duke, hopkins, pitt, etc... and it lists #of apps, # of interviews, # accepted, %matriculation, and most imporantly for us waitlisted people, # of acceptances offered after may (and they break it down by month!)

    here is the link:
    http://www.med.stanford.edu/senate/01-02/01-11-14%20Att%20B1%20Admissions%20Report.pdf[/ URL]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks lyle. YOU ROCK! :)
     
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    lyle: I think the undergrad at Hopkins is a stressfest and terribly overly competitive. The med school, on the other hand, has some of the happiest and least stressed students I have seen anywhere. The program is set up to minimize stress very effectively. The students only take one class at a time, spend very few hours in lecture/lab allowing for more independent study time, and the "grading curve" involves 80% of each class getting a B for the first two years. They don't even get there grades, they have to request them if they want to see them. Additionally, they all know they will get a top residency, so they basically have very little to worry about. When I interviewed there, I was most impressed by the fact that the place was practically devoid of the elitist attitude I expected to find. I think the school does a great job of selecting students, and they don't just recruit from other big name undergrads like most of the top med schools. Anyways, that's my lecture for Hopkins :)
     
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    Well, I don't agree.. There is no law that says Hopkins graduates will be in residency. Two years ago, 10% of their class did not get one of their five choices. And you have to know something.. You are only allowed to rank the resideny programs that interview you!! so if you apply to 20 residency programs and 10 accept to interview, then you are only allowed to rank those. So actually, the 3rd or 4th choice might be your actual 8th or 9th but you didn't interview at those on the top.. Anyway, the matter is all programs depend on YOU not your school. if you see the top residency programs you will find graduates from Hopkins and from other schools as well!! I would go further and say that if you are another school you are actually have a better chance to get in good resideny because residency directors look for diversity and ALL Hopkins graduates apply to the top. So if you are at the top, you have to compete with your classmates (in your specialty). Check the listing.

    Also, Hopkins is not stress-free as they might say. It is a stressful place and Baltimore makes it even more stressful!! I know this because i was an undergrad at hopkins and almost lived in the med school for 2 years. Before each module they give you those syllabi which are essentially Un-published books. So having time to do stuff on your own is limited (although they might tell you otherwise to make the picture of the school better).. I heard they were trying to improve things but it is still not that good.

    My close friend is now doing his residency, and he is a graduate of Hopkins. He was good but not the best. He was in the middle of his class ranking. and wanted to get residency in internal medicine. He ended up in a regular residency program because the top places went to class leaders from other medical schools. Also, a close friend of mine is the residency director in internal medicine of Mass. General Hosp. and he said they have instructions to get students from all around the country. So a top student at Iowa has a better chance than a regular student at Hopkins. SO don't worry much guys about residencies. Any medical school in the country well do good to prepare you. I must say , though, that Hopkins is the best place for neurology. In this case it is true that all their graduates end up in the best places. But other than that it is normal.

    And what about Baltimore? do u think 4 years in Baltimore are fun? I don't think so!! Don't listen to those students who tell you it is good because they are just trying to project a good picture about the medical school. Baltimore is not a good city for sure and 4 years there is a long time ( But that's just me)..

    One last thing, if you are interested in international medicine or participating in international medicine conferences, you have to know that Hopkins is not recognized that much. I attended a lot of international conferences and people overseas tend to recognize Harvard, Yale and Duke more than Hopkins. But of course, that's if you are interested in international medicine.

    So long..
     
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    Well, I don't agree.. There is no law that says Hopkins graduates will be in residency. Two years ago, 10% of their class did not get one of their five choices. And you have to know something.. You are only allowed to rank the resideny programs that interview you!! so if you apply to 20 residency programs and 10 accept to interview, then you are only allowed to rank those. So actually, the 3rd or 4th choice might be your actual 8th or 9th but you didn't interview at those on the top.. Anyway, the matter is all programs depend on YOU not your school. if you see the top residency programs you will find graduates from Hopkins and from other schools as well!! I would go further and say that if you are in another school you actually have a better chance to get into a good resideny because residency directors look for diversity and ALL Hopkins graduates apply to the top programs. So if you are at Hopkins and applying to the top residency, you have to compete with your classmates (in your specialty). Check the listing.

    Also, Hopkins is not stress-free as they might say. It is a stressful place and Baltimore makes it even more stressful!! I know this because i was an undergrad at hopkins and almost lived in the med school for 2 years. Before each module they give you those syllabi which are essentially Un-published books. So having time to do stuff on your own is limited (although they might tell you otherwise to make the picture of the school better).. I heard they were trying to improve things but it is still not that good.

    My close friend is now doing his residency, and he is a graduate of Hopkins. He was good but not the best. He was in the middle of his class ranking. and wanted to get residency in internal medicine. He ended up in a regular residency program because the top places went to class leaders from other medical schools. Also, a close friend of mine is the residency director in internal medicine at Mass. General Hosp. and he said they have instructions from the Gov. to get students from all around the country. So a top student at Iowa has a better chance than a regular student at Hopkins. SO don't worry much guys about residencies. Any medical school in the country well do good job to prepare you. I must say , though, that Hopkins is the best place for neurology. In this case it is true that all their graduates end up in the best places. But other than that it is normal.

    And what about Baltimore? do u think 4 years in Baltimore are fun? I don't think so!! Don't listen to those students who tell you it is good because they are just trying to project a good picture about the medical school. Baltimore is not a good city for sure and 4 years there is a long time ( But that's just me)..

    One last thing, if you are interested in international medicine or participating in international medicine conferences, you have to know that Hopkins is not recognized that much. I attended a lot of international conferences and people overseas tend to recognize Harvard, Yale and Duke more than Hopkins. But of course, that's if you are interested in international medicine.

    So long..
     
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    Can't wait to read doepug's rebuttal...
     
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    lyle: I agree, the students at Hopkins seemed really kickback. I think that any medical school is stressful, but I don't think that Hopkins is any more stressful simply by virtue of the fact that it is Hopkins. Students there seemed much more relaxed than at UCSD for instance, another school which I am considering.

    zizo: You're right that going to Hopkins won't guarantee anyone a top residency. But their match list is very impressive and there is no denying that. It seems like you had a bad experience during your time at Hopkins and that you don't like Baltimore, which are perfectly good reasons not to like the school. However there are many applicants who don't care what city they live in, and still like the school for reasons other than the residency match (such as me).

    I'm not even going to touch the international medicine remark because I think that's ridiculous. It seems that you are more concerned with prestige factor than anything else. I could care less if people overseas didn't recognize the name of the school I studied at.
     
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    For some reason, people who have hardly spent time in Baltimore, OR AT HOPKINS, insist that its reputation will overcome all. People, LISTEN TO THOSE WHO ARE TELLING YOU ABOUT HOPKINS FROM EXPERIENCE!! Does anyone wonder WHY exactly students at Hopkins are unhappy? Its so easy to misunderstand since most of you have not attended undergrad or grad school here. I am a hopkins grad student and I also went to undergrad here. Why did I decide to say another year for grad school? Well after being screwed for 4 years, I figured I would make the best of use of this Hopkins "reputation" so that I can impress lamers like all of you who are in a position to, either 1. Hire me for a job, or 2. Take into consideration the "quality" education I've recieved in application for med school. Folks...it doesn't matter where you go to medical school. If you are basing your future on a school's repuation, then by all means GOOD LUCK! But if you're more interested in working your butts off and kicking @ss in med school, then all the world's residency programs are your playground. People, please...for God's please...pay attention to the clues that people give you about Hopkins. Personally, I would love to have all of you come here and UNDERSTAND 'JUST' WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT :mad: But if you're fortunate enough to have the choice between Hopkins, Harvard, Duke, Michigan, etc...then trust me when I say you will be doing yourselves a BIG favor by choosing a school other than Hopkins. It may have a great reputation, but there are so many crappy things about the students, the faculty (who are more interested in their research then actually 'teaching' you or helping you understand the material) and the administration (who could give a rat's ass about student concerns, etc). I dont' know, I'm sure all schools have their bad points, but does no one else wonder why Hopkins students are extremely bitter about this school? If nothing else, this one little fact should peak your concern and caution. Anyway, that's my $.02. Good luck in your decisions....
     
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    Caliboy,
    I think that Zizo has made some very good observations. I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that he is being unfair.
    The international medicine thing was not at all ridculous. Johns Hopkins was my first choice till I read that. In international medicine, networking is very important. It behooves an applicant with such an interest to consider this factor. Governments worldwide are usually only willing to cooperate when you are associated with an institution that they respect highly. Some applicants are actually very interested in health care at the international level.
    Thanks Zizo for the insight. Umm, Zizo, how does Stanford rank in international medicine from your experience. My guess would be not so high ?!?!? What about Berkley?

    Anyways, cheers. Everybody shd go where they would be most happy and where they feel their long term goals would be best met.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CaliBoy:
    <strong>zizo: I'm not even going to touch the international medicine remark because I think that's ridiculous. It seems that you are more concerned with prestige factor than anything else. I could care less if people overseas didn't recognize the name of the school I studied at.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you decide to go into international medicine or just work at the international level, be it medicine or economics, the name of your school DOES matter. It's probably not fair, but it's life. Having little to judge you on, people will judge you by the name of the school you went to. In this case, Harvard, for example, will provide you a slight advantage over Johns Hopkins.

    In this country, however, Hopkins and Harvard are pretty equally well-known, so there's no problem. I agree that one should not pick a school solely on prestige, but I think it's unrealistic and unwise to ignore prestige completely.

    Anyway, good luck to all of you who are on the Hopkins waiting list.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Coalboy:
    <strong>I just got my pre-interview rejection letter from Hopkins yesterday. I was wondering if they had lost my application too, but alas, it turns out that I was in fact, not good enough for them.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got mine today too Coalboy. We should start a club! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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    Hi guys,

    Some of you misunderstood me. I am not saying by any means that Hopkins is a bad school. I think Hopkins is a great school. Unfortunately, there are other factors that come into the equation as most of you know.

    Anyway, for Quake, Actually Stanford Med was known but not that much. If I would rank the Medical schools internationally (Based on 4 conferences in internal medicine, ophthalmology, and cardiology in UK, Germany, France and Japan) I would say people definitely know Harvard, Yale, Duke, UC system (specifically SF and LA), Columbia, Cornell (because of their excellent cancer center), U Penn (well known), U of Washington (for their revolutionary treatment of leukemia I guess), Mayo, cleveland clinic (not necessarily a medical school) and some others. But the above schools are the well-known ones. Stanford is usually recognized not because of their Med School but because of the reputation of the school as a whole (Actually one famous French doctor once told me that he thought Stanford Med should collaborate more with UCSF and if that happens they would be the best).

    I hate to say this, but internationally the reputation of the NAME matters. For example, although Wash U is a great medical school, it is not that known internationally. Mentioning Wash U would often result in a confusion between U of Wash, George Washington Univ, and Washington DC!!

    In some specialties, however, some medical schools lead. For example, all people know Univ. of Pittsburgh for their liver transplant (they are the best in it). people know cornell for Cancer and so on.

    take care
     
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    By the way guys,
    I am not saying by any means that I can make judgments about schools. All what I am trying to do is to give you some ideas and points that I think will help you in your decision making process. I apologize if I made any judgments.

    Thanks.
     
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    Zizo, you are a well of knowledge, I'm impressed. So where have you decided to matriculate? I'm just curious.
     
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    I think some of you might have misunderstood me as well. I did not mean to imply that it's ridiculous to say that a name matters. I meant that Hopkins has a great name and its ridiculous to say that its not prestigious. While harvard may give you a slight advantage over Hopkins, i think its just that--slight. Anyway, you all would know better than me because I'm not going into int'l medicine.

    I just cannot believe that a Hopkins degree would put you at any major disadvantage even in int'l medicine, as opposed to a degree from a non top 10 school for example. Good luck to all.
     
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    hey guys--

    so far, all of the bad stuff about hopkins that i've heard has come from students in their undergrad program, and perhaps some grad students. all of the feedback i've gotten from actual medical students at hopkins has been overwhelmingly positive. in fact, when i interviewed, that is what impressed me the most, how happy the students were (despite some stories about being mugged)... anyways, that was just my impression... good luck to all of you!

    swaroop
     
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    where are my fellow hopkins undergrads? I actually LIKE it here. I got a great education, made great friends, I know all the professors in my department and they know me, and all the stress I've had is stress that I've put on myself, not by the supposedly competitive atmosphere here. sorry, I'm just tired of everything saying how horrible hopkins undergrads is.

    now, I'm also on the hopkins waitlist and I have elected to stay on it to see what happens. Back in November when I got the bad news I went to see Paul White and he told me then that maybe 400 people would be put on the waitlist, maybe 200 would choose to stay on it and maybe 100 would receive offers. So that's what I know. I would warn anyone considering hopkins to really think about whether you could live in Baltimore and work is such a depressing area day after day. There are nicer areas to live, but they aren't right by the med school. Jeez, enough rambling from me.
     
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    I think its funny how this thread turned into such a touchy subject. Anyway, thanks to everyone for all the important things to think about. I think its clear that Hopkins isn't for everyone, but it is for some.

    In other news, lorarp that's awesome! ~100 offers out of ~200? Seems like a 50:50 shot!
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by swaroop1:
    <strong>hey guys--

    so far, all of the bad stuff about hopkins that i've heard has come from students in their undergrad program, and perhaps some grad students. all of the feedback i've gotten from actual medical students at hopkins has been overwhelmingly positive. in fact, when i interviewed, that is what impressed me the most, how happy the students were (despite some stories about being mugged)... anyways, that was just my impression... good luck to all of you!

    swaroop</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree, I had the opportunity to speak with a lot of med students when I was there (the evening after my interview.) None were on the ad com so they had no reason to paint a pretty picture of Hopkins if it was miserable and they hated it. The response I got was overwhelmingly positive, they liked the school, and they were happy with the faculty and felt that the administration listened to them and valued their opinions. I got a very good impression of the place, and as someone mentioned earlier, I was very pleased with the lack of snobby attitudes among the students and faculty I met. Quite refreshing :)
     
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    first, bump.

    second, i hope those numbers are somewhat right.

    third, i heard about this guy i'm psuedo-friends with here at jhu who got in off the waitlist in january. i don't have any more details about that, but it is curious
     
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    that could be true...has anyone been in touch with the hopkins admissions office lately? Of all schools, they probably have a better idea about their wait list because they are rolling.
     
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    Well, I'm a long-time lurker here at SDN but I've come to know a lot of you well... sorta :) Anyway, just wanted to give support to my fellow Hopkins waitlist peers; I am one as well. From what I've heard from a friend who applied last year, as long as you end up in the top tier, you're as good as in, give or take a week or month or two. Good luck to us all and hopefully we'll end up with a good ranking! :rolleyes:
     
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    Not to add to the confusion, but:

    I'm an international student. I studied medicine in a foreign country for three years before I decided to drop my education and go for a more sciency-medical training that the US offers. I come from a family of physicians and my father is an academic physician who travels to many conferences abroad (specifically in asia, australia and europe)... even before I even went for my interview he told me that Johns Hopkins had the BEST reputation for clinical training and excellence in patient-care around the world.

    For example, the National University of Singapore (ranked the best patient-care center in South-East Asia/Oceania, opened a merger with Hopkins and started a JH-NUS Int'l Medical Center in Singapore. Hopkins also opened its own hospitals in Italy, and will be expanding it in the next few years. YOu can get this information from:

    <a href="http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/international/" target="_blank">http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/international/</a>

    ... personally, I agree that Hopkins isn't for everyone.. no medschool is, and if any of you who blast at this place look at their admissions brochure, you will see this. I'm a big Hopkins-convert. I used to be dead against it, until I actually visited the school, spoke to faculty, and realized that that was the best place in the country for an amazing medical education. The statistics speak for itself... 70% of MD's received their top-choice (which for most was JHH or MGH), and 100% of the MD/PhD's received their top choice (JHU and MGH).

    But for those who want to say that Hopkins has no international reputation, all I can do is laugh. I think, as a foreigner, I have a better perspective of the reputation any school has outside the U.S., than most American students.

    In the end, all I can say is, no one will force you to go to a particular place to medschool. Check the school out for yourself. If you like it, go there... If not, don't. For me, Hopkins is a magnificent fit, and I will go there. I've met and associated over 30 Hopkins MD and MD/PhD students - past and present. They all loved their school and praise the benefits going to Hopkins had brought them.
     
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    i'm a hopkins waitlistee, too! :(

    and i thought i'd add my two cents re: hopkins' international reputation.

    i had the opportunity to talk with a harvard med second year on a bus once. she was particularly interested in international medicine and had just returned from a summer working in bangladesh. while speaking about her experience, she casually mentioned that she felt hopkins was the most well-known internationally among those not in the medical community, but among doctors, harvard was probably better known.
     
  34. I just want to say one thing about the administrative supporting staff at Hopkins-they are probably the least competent and most inefficient people you will find in all the med schools. It will take them to one month to process a transcript request, and still, they couldn't do it properly! In terms of paychecks, post-doctoral and clinical fellows normally will receive their first paycheck three month late. Hopkins feeds a huge entourage of administrative staffs who are incompetent, at best. The med school is prestigious, to say the least, and the city certainly is ****ty, but it is tolerable. Since no one really hangs out in the city (unless of course if you live in the Reed Hall, then Valium is probably your daily breakfast). Research is great at Hopkins, probably the best in the country, I don't buy into this whole Stanford thing... I am sorry... I am just not a tree worshipper... Students are very competive at Hopkins, not much collaboration at all (MSTP students are more friendly than regular med students, at least from the perspective of a grad student), the material they give during class is exorbitantly heavy, and the second year is hell. But Hopkins is Hopkins, only second to Harvard, and the name carries you a long way... that is objectively, the truth... But Baltimore is Baltimore, the boarded houses, the black-on-black crimes, and the daily doses of murderous news are common. But I liked Baltimore, it made me tougher, harder, and more callous than usually, since northern california made me really soft... Baltimore is a good experience, an experience that juxtaposes elitists with vagebonds... Baltimore humbles people.... but again, humility is probably the worst form of conceit.
     
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    As far as location is concerned, I don't understand the big deal/complaint about Baltimore. My personal philosophy is that when we're in Med School, we'll all be so busy that most of our time will be spent in studies. Whether we end up in NYC or Baltimore or wherever for Med School, I really don't see us having very much time to go partying, sightseeing, etc... even then, Baltimore isn't TOTALLY lacking with the harborfront and DC 45 minutes away.

    I'm totally open to new experiences and new living conditions. Baltimore represents a tremendous opportunity to treat an underpriveleged community with complex socioeconomic conditions; on that level, we'll see and learn a lot, not to mention the tertiary care opportunities we'll be exposed to. Anyways, you can tell I'm a big Hopkins fan <img border="0" alt="[Lovey]" title="" src="graemlins/lovey.gif" />

    As far as reputation is concerned, international or otherwise, I think you're really splitting hairs when you get to Hopkins vs. Harvard vs. the whatever... the difference in relative reputations is so small I think it's really silly to try to make a big deal out of it. A little theory, however: I think because Harvard and Yale and Stanford have very well known undergrad schools, law schools (biz for PENN), there's maybe a dilution of the purely medical reputation at these schools. When people think about Hopkins however, they think immediately of the medical sciences aspect (not that the undergrad or other schools or bad by any means).

    Anyways, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
     
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    Bump, please!

    Anyone hear a response from Hopkins? Anyone call in and get info about when they're sending out our waitlist ranking?
     
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    I've tried calling, but you know it's very difficult to get through to the admissions office. It seems they are not accepting phone calls. One thing I haven't tried is e-mailing Dean White-- I don't have his e-mail address, though. Hopefully they will keep to their word and get back to us at the end of April.

    Has anyone sent a grade/activity update letter? I want to send one but I don't know what Hopkins' policy on that is.
     
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    Thanks Sonic! <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />
     
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    DO NOT E-MAIL DEAN WHITE. He really gets annoyed when students do that. SO if u wanna be safe, keep away. Don't send anything either, Hopkins staff get very annoyed. If they need anything, they will contact you.
    THis info came directly from Whit's mouth.
     
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    THANK YOU zizo... I was hoping someone would give me some advice like that.

    Looks like we'll just have to wait it out guys.
     
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    I emailed Dean White, and he responded with a polite reply... Hmm, what to make of that...

    BTW, he said something to the effect of reviewing candidates in May, so maybe the April date has changed?
     
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    Bump.

    Uh oh... I sent in a recent update letter... hope they don't hurt me!

    About Hopkins's office staff, I called twice one day to ask some questions and it turned out to be the same woman on the line... she got really agitated and asked me my name... I gave it to her; I just hope she did put a negative note in my folder or something like that.

    Seriously, this is our LIVES we're talking about here. I understand they must be busy but we do have a right to inquire about our status :mad:
     
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    Bump.

    Hi lyle, daffodil, incendiery and other people on the Hopkins waitlist. I called in today (Tuesday) and asked if letters were being sent out to alternates and the lady on the line told me they were mailing a batch out that very afternoon.

    Sooo, some of us might be hearing back soon. I have no idea how large this "batch" is or to whom it will be sent, i.e. the top tier waitlistees or to the lower ranked ones...

    Anyway, good luck and don't be surprised if you get a letter in the upcoming days! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
     
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    By the way, I didn't mean to leave out irongirl, caliboy, or lorarp. Good luck to you guys too :D
     
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    Thanks for calling JerBear. You're cool :D

    I wouldn't worry about having sent in a letter. I seriously doubt it would hurt you and I really think it could only help.

    Good luck everyone! You KNOW we all have to post here when we find out our "ranking" or whatever they are going to tell us.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CaliBoy:
    <strong>Thanks for calling JerBear. You're cool :D

    I wouldn't worry about having sent in a letter. I seriously doubt it would hurt you and I really think it could only help.

    Good luck everyone! You KNOW we all have to post here when we find out our "ranking" or whatever they are going to tell us.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Word, caliboy... you all will be the first to know when I get my letter, whenever that will be!
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JerBear:
    <strong>Bump.

    Uh oh... I sent in a recent update letter... hope they don't hurt me!

    About Hopkins's office staff, I called twice one day to ask some questions and it turned out to be the same woman on the line... she got really agitated and asked me my name... I gave it to her; I just hope she did put a negative note in my folder or something like that.

    Seriously, this is our LIVES we're talking about here. I understand they must be busy but we do have a right to inquire about our status :mad: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The hopkins staff is incredibly rude. I am never calling their office again. And the thing is, they are rude from the minute they pick up the phone when you have not done or said anything wrong.

    They impatient, rude, and agitated. I highly recommend NOT calling their office if you can avoid it
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Incendiary:
    <strong>I emailed Dean White, and he responded with a polite reply... Hmm, what to make of that...

    BTW, he said something to the effect of reviewing candidates in May, so maybe the April date has changed?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are you also on the waiting list?
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LilMissDrDoolittle:
    <strong>Are you also on the waiting list?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In a word, yes. :)
     
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    Anyone near Baltimore get something in the mail today? Last time it took only 2 days for mail from Hopkins to reach me in CA. So maybe tomorrow is the day
     

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