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And we're resurrecting this two year old flamefest because.....?
[/b] On what basis are you making those assumptions?
[/B] On what basis are you making those assumptions?
You can laugh if you want - but remember - the entering class at some carib schools is 400. The class that graduates? 150.
I think at the very least it is fair to say that the Carib students that passed are on a level with most of the allo kids. It's just their entering classes that are significantly dumber.Okay.
(250/400) x 100 = 62.5% stupid
Well let me tell you, EVERY single one of my friends that went down to the caribs got kicked out. And they were smart as hell
Why is everyone so insulting to foreign grads? You will have to deal with many foreign doctors (including many carib docs) as well as D.O.'s when you are in residency.
Caribbean grads can end up Chief of Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery at Duke.
Just FYI.
My brother witnessed a cheater getting back in 2x after getting caught "red handed" due to a very good lawyer.
Hmm....definitely not true.....MANY US medical schools will take students who have been dsimissed previously from another med school...it is totally upto the school. I've had 2 resdients in the past, who were expelled from school, got lawyers, and ended up nowhere. They were however able to apply to another school and get in....and that would be another US allopathic school...
You get kicked out for failing a class you're repeating, you get dismissed, but most places will allow you to reapply again.
Is it normal for your school to give essay exams?
No, all multiple choice for most classes. The exception would be practicals and soap notes in physical diagnosis.
Okay you all can close this. I ended up not getting back in because the test I failed was the one that they caught me on camera using some hidden notes to cheat with. I am now a bum.So since this post does come up over and over again, lets bring some closure. What is the update status of the OP, did you get back in, did you go into a different field, are you working now. What steps did you take and where did you end up?
I doubt you'll get any closure, the OP hasn't been on SDN since 2005. Well wait a minute now, there might be your closure right there, not a student doctor anymore...So since this post does come up over and over again, lets bring some closure. What is the update status of the OP, did you get back in, did you go into a different field, are you working now. What steps did you take and where did you end up?
Originally Posted by jonb12997
seriously, what else happened, it seems like most medical schools do not kick you out for simply failing a neuroanatomy retest... you don't need to tell us exactly, just let us know that there is other stuff going on or something, I don't think any of us really believe that this is all you've done.
i have not read the whole thread yet, but so far i've seen this asked at least 5 times on page one...why do you keep avoiding the question? I feel for you, man, but you have to be totally honest if you want helpful responses.
He stated on here that he failed in 1st year and started 2nd year on probation.
Edit: Wow I just realized I responded to a thread that is 2 years old and was bumped up. My bad. Ignore the above.
I doubt you'll get any closure, the OP hasn't been on SDN since 2005. Well wait a minute now, there might be your closure right there, not a student doctor anymore...
I just got kick out of medical school as a 2nd year (I've gone through the 1st appeal process in front of the committee and 2nd appeal in front of Dean and my dissmissal was upheld after both appeals).
Anyways, the exam that I failed that caused me to be put on dismissal status (by causing me to fail over the maximum allowed credits) was an essay exam. The school, however, won't let me see how my essay exam was graded. I thought I did much better on the essay exam than the score I actually obtained. Do I have any legal recourse?
I think I might call the school and threaten legal action so I can see how my essay was graded. I think that would scare them enough (the medical school is private and its parent university, also private, has been having a lot of financial problems lately).
yup would get a lawyer
Any cause of action he may have had would have run out long ago in the many years since this thread was started. No point continuing to bump up this thread seeking "positive" experiences of folks who overcame such dismissals. The reason you don't see such is there likely isn't much good news out there to be found. If a school decides you don't have what it takes to graduate from their school, other schools tend not to throw open their doors. There are so many applicants for each spot, no school wants someone else's "damaged goods". Sad but that's the cold hard truth.
DIE THREAD, DIE!!!!!!
(yes, I am aware of the irony that my post just put this thread at the top of the page)
Wow........
I cannot believe this thread is still (sort of) alive after almost 3 years and 36,000+ views.
Just a little update on my situation. I decided not to pursue legal action, instead I applied to and am now attending medical school in the Caribbean. But medical school in the Caribbean is no cake walk, I've had more than my share of hardships down here. Other than that, I would rather not reveal anymore information about my CURRENT situation.
Just some advice to anybody who, in the future, may find themselves in a similar situation (failing out of a US medical school).
Keep the legal option open: the reason why I didn't pursue it was because I had no money and my family was absolutely against helping me pursue legal action. Besides, my family isn't exactly well connected nor are they 'legally inclined'. If my family were well-connected and saw the judicial system as more of a tool for the citizen to use, then I may have pursued legal action.
About going to school in the Carribbean: do your research and don't rush applying to Carribbean schools. of course research which schools can be licensed in which states but also look at how happy current students are (valuemd.com is a great resource).
Thanks for your concern and advice.
you need to stop what you're doing and get a lawyer NOW. if you call and threaten them, they will not be scared. if a lawyer who is experienced in such matters calls on your behalf, it's a different story.
Also, document every single interaction you have with the school.
good luck,
s
I might actually hold off on the lawyer. In my experience with these academic **** will clam up if a lawyer is involved. He should be used as a last resort. I'd get meetings (with the top people). In my friend's case, his mom begged for some recourse and a bone was thrown.
We are all serfs and with the increased survellience in all spheres and unaccountable boards, it will get worse.
"financial problems?", let me guess: NYMC? I had a friend that went there and the cluster**** involved there is legend, but not well known outside of alumni. Their drop out rates are artificially minimized; they often count academic distressed folk as personal drop outs, through encouraging them to get out before the axe drops.
glad to hear things are working out for you.