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Less respect with DO?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by wingy, Nov 11, 2002.

  1. wingy

    wingy Member
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    Aug 27, 2000
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    Do you think there is discrimination against physicians with DO degrees as opposed to an MD degree? Do DO get paid less than MD?
  2. This has been discussed at all ends in the international, Pre-DO and DO forum, take ur pick!

    to answer ur question, i dont know if DOs get paid more than MDs but they are more knowledgable in some areas such as OMM and some other things.

    DOs have been known to match into competitive residencies so whether there is discrimination or not, its up to u to work hard and deal with it.

  3. DW

    DW Fix me some sandwiches
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    Jun 9, 2002
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    As I understand it DO grads are eligible for all the same residencies that allopaths are, so they can make the same as MDs. However, at least what gets propagated around here is that its a little harder, while not impossible, for DOs to get into competitive specialties than MDs and research isn't particularly strong at DO schools. I think its a great route for those having problems getting into allopathic schools or those who like the DO philosophy. Yah might be explaining what those letters after your name are to people, but you'll still be a doctor :)
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  4. ItNeverEnds

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    Jun 23, 2002
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    Similar opportunities, same pay. In the eyes of the law, MDs and DOs are IDENTICAL.

    This issue is of concern to obsessive, overachieving pre-meds who should shadow a DO to see that DOs do EXACTLY the same things that MDs do -- DOs are actually trained in another treatment modality, OMM.

    Newsflash: In 2001, exactly 0.8% of all graduating DOs pursued OMM as a specialization. The rest are lurking in either allopathic or osteopathic residencies -- be on the look out! :eek:
  5. group_theory

    group_theory EX-TER-MIN-ATE!'
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    With respect to Edgar Allan Poe

    The osteopath

    Once upon a midnight dreary
    As I pondered weak and weary
    About my future and the directions I myself should go
    As I wonder what lies ahead
    I decided to be premed
    And took the courses in bio, physics, and orgo
    So I broke the 40 MCAT threshold

    Options I desired
    but it was MDs that I aspired
    but what's this osteopathic medicine I've never heard about before
    Premed advisors I did ask
    this advice they did pass
    "DO is being a doctor through the backdoor
    Why would you consider that with your score?"

    Fellow premeds they did chide me
    they held DO with bitter acrimony
    "DOs are for idiots, losers, and nothing more"
    This feeling I took to heart
    osteopathy must be voodo art
    I dropped this matter, this I will ignore
    but then my soul began to soar

    Medicine unit volunteer I did
    amazed like a lone lost kid
    I saw attendings and residents running around on the floor
    This attending, he had fame
    yet he had DO after his name
    He told me "That's not something patients really look for
    In reality, DOs aren't discriminated anymore"

    "Education is nearly the same
    Does it matter what's after your name?
    MDs and DOs are here, and there, and everywhere galore
    Although this I must concede
    Most go into internal or peds
    But that's the type of people DO schools look for
    Trust me, I know the score"

    "Both are paid exactly the same
    Since we are both in the same game
    I still don't know why people are willing to go offshore
    DO Respectibility is my conclusion
    and DO discrimination an illusion
    PDs only look at recommendations and your board scores"
    Quote the attending, "only this and nothing more"
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  6. nero

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    Oct 15, 2000
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    as mentioned before, it will be a tad more difficult to match into the competitive specialties.....derm, ortho, optho, ENT, urology.....but not impossible.....also, there will always be a few people out there who will look down on you cause you are a DO, but the vast majority will not give 2 sh**s about it.......

    dont forget, for the competivtive residencies you MIGHT have to take the USMLE.......the COMLEX will allow you to pass for the DO School, but some residencies want you to take the USMLE, so you are on a level playign field with the MDs....since most poeple dont' understand teh scoring of the COMLEX.......

  7. Mutterkuchen

    Mutterkuchen Senior Member
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    Nov 28, 2001
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    The answer to your question is yes, you will get less respect from many people because they do not understand the degreee. The real question is-how much do you need that respect?

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