letter from the "chair"

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I hear oftern that getting a letter of rec from the "chairman of the med dept" is really important. How does one do this? The chair will likely never see me work. Is a letter from your attending for your team good enough?

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Actually, the "chair's letter" is not only important, it's actually REQUIRED at many programs. Check out each program's website for details. Some require two letters of recommendation plus a chair's letter, others require only 3 letters, and places like Hopkins actually require a total of four! The chair's letter doesn't necessarily have to be from the chair either...it can be from a "departmental designee" who's appointed to write these letters. Basically, it's a way to standardize things so there's one person at each school commenting on all medicine applicants who've rotated through their department.

At my school, anyone applying in medicine is required to meet with the Chair, and he looks over our CV, personal statement, transcript, etc., and then writes a letter for each of us. It's also based on evaluations from the medicine clerkship and your sub-I, which are typically given by members of the department whom the Chair knows and trusts, hence he can get a good feel for what type of letter to write.
 
The "required" chair letter makes no sense to me.....majority of students never work with the chair.....good thing most programs don't require this foolishness
 

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tool said:
The "required" chair letter makes no sense to me.....majority of students never work with the chair.....good thing most programs don't require this foolishness

Actually, it seems like most (or many) programs do, particularly academic programs. You're right, though, it doesn't make much sense to me because if you didn't work with the chairman, and they just use your CV and comments from your clerkships, it's essentially a redundancy of the Dean's letter, only more specialized. Thankfully my medicine advisor is writing mine, so he knows me a little better, but I didn't work with him clinically either.
 
almost all IM programs require a chairman's letter; only 2 of the many programs i applied to said it was either optional or not wanted. at my school, it's written by a designee, the clerkship director. basically, it's similar to what is in my dean's letter because the comments are taken directly from my clership evaluations and then the designee also submits the comments for my dean's letter. the additional info in the chairman's letter includes some data on how many in my class received honors, near honors, etc. it also summarizes the individual's acadmeic performance over the 3 + years and gives a recommendation. it feels like a "mini-dean's letter."
 
jadedbearsprite said:
almost all IM programs require a chairman's letter; only 2 of the many programs i applied to said it was either optional or not wanted. at my school, it's written by a designee, the clerkship director. basically, it's similar to what is in my dean's letter because the comments are taken directly from my clership evaluations and then the designee also submits the comments for my dean's letter. the additional info in the chairman's letter includes some data on how many in my class received honors, near honors, etc. it also summarizes the individual's acadmeic performance over the 3 + years and gives a recommendation. it feels like a "mini-dean's letter."


Ummm I disagree with that....I've applied to like 25 programs...NONE of which required a chairmans letter. Probably cause they realized the letter is worthless......
 
tool said:
Ummm I disagree with that....I've applied to like 25 programs...NONE of which required a chairmans letter. Probably cause they realized the letter is worthless......

Are you for real? I'm pretty sure that every single program I've applied to requires a chairman's letter. Are you applying to only community programs?
 
tool said:
Ummm I disagree with that....I've applied to like 25 programs...NONE of which required a chairmans letter. Probably cause they realized the letter is worthless......


I applied to 14 programs (12 university and 2 community) and all of them required a chairman's letter.
 
Nope....maybe it's a yankee thing and programs up north require it. I've applied to various programs down south and NONE require one....maybe even if they do...they didn't get one from me and I still got interviews.
 
tool said:
Nope....maybe it's a yankee thing and programs up north require it. I've applied to various programs down south and NONE require one....maybe even if they do...they didn't get one from me and I still got interviews.

Well this may explain it. I only applied to one program in the south (Vanderbilt, which actually does require a chair's letter). And I wouldn't take the fact that a program has offered you an interview as proof they won't eventually require a chair's letter to complete your file... I got a number of interviews back when I only had one LOR uploaded, but that doesn't mean those programs decided that one was enough in my case. I would seriously double-check this if I were you.
 
Are there any other places besides hopkins that require 4 LORs?
 
i applied to some florida and georgia programs and the majority required the chairperson letter.
 
pintsized said:
Are there any other places besides hopkins that require 4 LORs?

i applied to around 20 programs and only hopkins asked for 3 LoRs AND a chairman's letter. but to be on the safe side, you can check on each program's website (there is a link via ERAS usually). i found that many programs stated specifically what and how many they wanted on their web pages. if you find yourself wondering, you can always email them.
 
I could not find on Hopkins website where they wanted 4 LOR's

I only have 3, too late now for me and Hopkins I guess. Too traditional for me anyway.
 
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