Looking for good surgical gpr or AEGD programs in CT or NJ

[Dent@515]

I am looking for some good AEGD or GPR programs in Connecticut or New Jersey. I want experience in surgical implant placement and other surgeries like 3rd molar ext. also I want exposure to conscious sedation or deep sedation. Can any one guide me as to what programs I should apply to?

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[parkinglottoilet]

do an OMFS residency

 

[ibuprofen400mg]

Have you ever heard of OMFS speciality?

 

[Van Der Woude]

OMFS is not just conscious sedation and deep sedation/general anesthesia exo 3rds and implant placement. Its trauma, resections, hip grafts to face, fibula's to face, free flaps, advancement flaps, orbital floor implants, etc. The greater new york city area is full of general dentists who can do 3rds, single unit implants, and have GA credentials. Also, conscious sedation? Just give someone a valium. Boom conscious sedation. You will have to do a GPR for the implants and exo's. Morristown medical center, Monmouth medical center are both very good in NJ from what I here. King's county GPR in NYC and Albert Einstein in Philly also place implants. My friends say San Antonio VA and SLC VA GPRs place more implants than anybody if you want to make the trip.

 

[Dent@515]

Have you ever heard of OMFS speciality?

I have heard of it thanks, but there are alot of GPRs and AEGDs that train their students in all this. At Programs like Augusta GA residents place about 150 implants throughout the year.

 

[Dent@515]

OMFS is not just conscious sedation and deep sedation/general anesthesia exo 3rds and implant placement. Its trauma, resections, hip grafts to face, fibula's to face, free flaps, advancement flaps, orbital floor implants, etc. The greater new york city area is full of general dentists who can do 3rds, single unit implants, and have GA credentials. Also, conscious sedation? Just give someone a valium. Boom conscious sedation. You will have to do a GPR for the implants and exo's. Morristown medical center, Monmouth medical center are both very good in NJ from what I here. King's county GPR in NYC and Albert Einstein in Philly also place implants. My friends say San Antonio VA and SLC VA GPRs place more implants than anybody if you want to make the trip.

Thanks very much.

 

[D1ForLifeSon]

I dont know any off hand. My advice would be, if you havent already - use adea pass search engine, read about the programs and find some that sound good. Then reach out to the program / current and previous residents and try to gather info. Good luck, finding out good info about residencies is tough sometimes

 

[wengerout]

I have heard of it thanks, but there are alot of GPRs and AEGDs that train their students in all this. At Programs like Augusta GA residents place about 150 implants throughout the year.

Wait, GPR residents at Augusta place 150 implants in one year?

 

[maxFax2020]

Wait, GPR residents at Augusta place 150 implants in one year?

No they don’t. They place around 20. And even if they place 20 while in their 1 year residency they place 1 the next year in private practice. As a general dentist you’ll do general dentistry in the real world.

 

[wengerout]

No they don’t. They place around 20. And even if they place 20 while in their 1 year residency they place 1 the next year in private practice. As a general dentist you’ll do general dentistry in the real world.

I'm pretty confident GP's do more than one implant in the real world.

Also, considering almost all implants get to specialist via GP referrals, there's nothing stopping them if they want to do more.

 

[D1ForLifeSon]

All this implant talk... totally dependent on Dr, pt population, tx pallning, case presentation, Dr training etc etc... a silly topic to debate honestly

 

[Faux]

No they don’t. They place around 20. And even if they place 20 while in their 1 year residency they place 1 the next year in private practice. As a general dentist you’ll do general dentistry in the real world.

I've talked to two residents there. One placed about 50 in one year, another did 100 in two years.

 

[maxFax2020]

I'm pretty confident GP's do more than one implant in the real world.

Also, considering almost all implants get to specialist via GP referrals, there's nothing stopping them if they want to do more.

No not really. As a general dentist you'll make your money doing general dentistry.

 

[wengerout]

No not really. As a general dentist you'll make your money doing general dentistry.

This is simply not true.

Implants/Surgical extractions pay more than Class II's. There are some, very low overhead offices that make money on general dentistry. However, your average provider will make more money doing procedures that are worth more.

 

[maxFax2020]

This is simply not true.

Implants/Surgical extractions pay more than Class II's. There are some, very low overhead offices that make money on general dentistry. However, your average provider will make more money doing procedures that are worth more.

No. General dentists make their money doing crowns, bridges, restoring implants, anterior endo and hygiene.

 

[parkinglottoilet]

No. General dentists make their money doing crowns, bridges, restoring implants, anterior endo and hygiene.

Yes this kid is delusional. Talking to my friends who are actual practicing dentists and not third year students they say it isn't worth their time doing impacted wisdom teeth or difficult implant cases. They will do slam dunk implant cases and easy extractions. 85% of their $$$ is from general dentistry

 

[D1ForLifeSon]

@wengerout dont let a couple of randos on a forum dictate what you do in your practice. There are GPs that do 100s of implants per year, some that do a ton esthetic, botox, veneers etc, some that love doing endo. It all depends on how YOU structure your practice, the education you seek out, how you market etc. This talk of "most dentists do xyz" is pointless and irrelevant. Make your career what you want it and dont worry about what "most" are doing.

 

[parkinglottoilet]

^ The discussion was talking about a generalization of what most GPs do. No one is saying he can't practice how he wants. We are just speaking to the reality of what most GPs do in practice.

 

[D1ForLifeSon]

I fully understand the conversation. Where it got derailed was when @maxFax2020 said it doesnt matter how many implants someone does in residency because the next year they will only place 1. Now I fully agree MOST dentist make MOST of their money with bread and butter dentistry, 100%. However, if this student has an idea that he wants to make his money placing implants as a GP, more power to him, its 100% possible. Last thing this world needs more of is faceless internet posters calling people delusional.

 

[maxFax2020]

It’s important that people realize the actual scope and typically day to day schedule of a general dentist. Sure they can technically do surgical extractions, implants, posterior endo ect. but it’s not realistic. They simply aren’t fast enough, aren’t trained enough, and can’t handle the complications at the level a specialist does. That’s not a knock. They chose general dentistry because they like and enjoy general procedures. The idea of someone going to a one year gpr/aegd and coming out as a “super dentist” is just a far fetched illusion that these 1 yr programs continue to sell.

I fully understand the conversation. Where it got derailed was when @maxFax2020 said it doesnt matter how many implants someone does in residency because the next year they will only place 1. Now I fully agree MOST dentist make MOST of their money with bread and butter dentistry, 100%. However, if this student has an idea that he wants to make his money placing implants as a GP, more power to him, its 100% possible. Last thing this world needs more of is faceless internet posters calling people delusional.